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Billy said:
Hastings can't be fully fit after the off season he had, but the other two are.
Hastings should be fitter this week though, after a full game and 11 days to do extra training.
There is another article on Gamble in the Herald today (Robert Dillion article) that says he is giving himself 6 weeks to show what he is worth before he starts contract negotiations, so it would be hard to drop him.
Toohey doesn't say it's about fitness. He says that Cogger's main strength is straightening the attack, which helps Ponga do his thing and that was sadly lacking in round one, so Hastings and Gamble need to up their game to keep their spots.
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Everyone didn’t do their job against raiders. Cogs included. I’d be surprised if Hastings doesn’t get the attack straightened up. He biggest let down, more because of his injury is his kicking game, definitely lacks a big boot. Cogs has him there I think.

I think hasting/Gamble deserve a good 6 weeks together to get the team rolling and they deserve that after last year.
It’s a tough 6 weeks though against good teams, so if they can get some results, which they obviously have too then that’s peachy.

Hand will be forced eventually next week with Brails back. I think Brails is straight into the 17 at 14 most likely. A straight swap for Crossy. None of this pushing him to 13.
 
jamesgould said:
This is what I was worried about with all the talk around Cogger, now we’ve got these crazy discussions about moving away from what worked so well for us last year. For me the 7 belongs to Hastings for the year.

Cogger is Clune - NSW Cup unless there’s an injury.
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Yeah I’m afraid it’s going to mess with players minds more than it should. But that’s also up to coaching staff to keep clear communication on what’s happening. The thing we aren’t privy too is how well did Cogger train in off season? Did he out play them both in off season?

Either way, players need to be playing their positions regularly. So Cogger back to 7 in Cup and get that team winning.
 
Wasn't sold on Hastings in our first game and said it at the time, he looked off the pace and his boot is **** poor weak.

Jacks got him covered with a bigger boot and also he has speed.....really like Hastings but have to agree with toohey that he is under the most pressure.
 
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JOJO82 said:
Wasn't sold on Hastings in our first game and said it st the time, he looked off the pace and his boot is **** poor weak.

Jacks got him covered with a bigger boot and also he has speed.....really like Hastings but have to agree with toohey that he is under the most pressure.
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He doesn’t need to be fast and breaking the line. We need an organiser and he is very much that.

I’m still shocked people see a player in Cogger who hasn’t played a season of NRL in the 7 position as the player to take Hastings position.

Thankfully the Bloke podcast is still the smartest lot out there. Stating Cogger should still prove himself over next 6 weeks in Cup.
 
BTP said:
Thankfully the Bloke podcast is still the smartest lot out there. Stating Cogger should still prove himself over next 6 weeks in Cup.
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That raises a good point, it’s not exactly fair on Cogger to come on with two other halves on the field and be expected to create something while simultaneously not getting in the way, either.
 
jamesgould said:
That raises a good point, it’s not exactly fair on Cogger to come on with two other halves on the field and be expected to create something while simultaneously not getting in the way, either.
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that was our biggest problem, too many cooks in the kitchen against the raiders. the ball went through 3-4 sets of hands before it even hit Hastings or Ponga while attacking.
 
BTP said:
Yeah I’m afraid it’s going to mess with players minds more than it should. But that’s also up to coaching staff to keep clear communication on what’s happening. The thing we aren’t privy too is how well did Cogger train in off season? Did he out play them both in off season?

Either way, players need to be playing their positions regularly. So Cogger back to 7 in Cup and get that team winning.
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I believe this under swell for Cogger is placing undue pressure on the halves who steered us to a successful season last year. I can see from Gamble’s last 2 games where he has made a number of unforced errors that this is playing with his mind and he has lost some clarity and confidence around the options he has taken.
 
The problem at the moment is no Brailey, him at 14 or 9 along with Crosslands means we only need two of Hastings, Gamble and Cogger.
For me it’s Cogger to Cup and to put pressure on the other two.
 
BTP said:
Hand will be forced eventually next week with Brails back. I think Brails is straight into the 17 at 14 most likely. A straight swap for Crossy. None of this pushing him to 13.
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I really don't see it to be honest, preseason is a right off let him get some miles in his legs in NSW cup, atleast 2 weeks if not a month.
 
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I think by the end of the year, maybe even before mid year arrives Cogger will be in the starting side as a regular, (and I’m saying this because I’ve always believed he was more than a NSW cup punching bag, not because I hate Hastings or Gamble)

I could be wrong, who cares if I am. 🤷🏼‍♂️
 
MBQLD said:
I think by the end of the year, maybe even before mid year arrives Cogger will be in the starting side as a regular, (and I’m saying this because I’ve always believed he was more than a NSW cup punching bag, not because I hate Hastings or Gamble)

I could be wrong, who cares if I am. 🤷🏼‍♂️
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Yep, that's definitely a possibility. My only problem with the discussion is not letting the guys with last year's performance have 4-6 games to get the team rolling. Not 1 game and bring out the torches, or even pre season.

P.s. not saying you were
 
The talking points in the Toohey article were not about which half can be a match winner for us. They were about which half could best get the ball to Ponga in good positions when he needed it.
 
mullenmagic said:
No evidence of Hastings being able to get Ponga the ball in good positions consistently (ignore all of last season). The local kid is the answer!
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Gotta get 30 locals, we will get premiership trophies easily that way. How good would mullo be for KP.... if only.......I can dream right?
 
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