He ran 25 metres off a kick off. Doesn't every single prop in the competition also do this!?!?
With Tolar it's a bloody disgrace though.
With Tolar it's a bloody disgrace though.
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He ran 25 metres off a kick off. Doesn't every single prop in the competition also do this!?!?
With Tolar it's a bloody disgrace though.
Seems silly that a front rower is getting bagged for making metres and having numerous hit-ups.
13 Hitups for 105m...This does not take into account runs off kickoffs/dropouts.
Although its not like Runs off kickoffs/dropouts should be discredited. They are running full-steam at a defensive line squarely targeted at the ball carrier, usually fired up due to points just being scored, or trying to force a mistake after the repeat set.
Although its not like Runs off kickoffs/dropouts should be discredited. They are running full-steam at a defensive line squarely targeted at the ball carrier, usually fired up due to points just being scored, or trying to force a mistake after the repeat set.
He has done it in less game time then our other props too.
NF_47
GoHard|GoKnights|GoProud
I'm sorry if I offended you by labelling your comment stupid. You have labelled my comments in the past stupid too, I wasn't implying that you were stupid.
The game against Wests in 07, Paterson raced from the 40m line fairly quickly outleaped a few Tigers players then raced away 20m untouched from there. Against the Broncos in 08, rd 5? IIRC he didn't score but made a decent sized line break. There is probably more, just can't think of any off the top of my head at the moment.
About the Ndaira statement I made, a member on here posted something once about Ndaira nearly keeping or was keeeping Luke out of the Rabbitohs can't remember which though.
I don't see how i'm anti Mitchell Pearce either, I reckon he is overrated. Bit of a difference.
I don't have it in for Tolar either, I changed my side a few days ago and put him back in. I then said that his experience was vital against a strong Manly pack. You reckon I have it in for him because I said he isn't suited to the second row.
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shanemj
Tim Maddison
I agree with Ciraldo not really offering anything in attack and defence but Tolar really backed up today. As a prop he must've been feeling the burn but kept going forward despite the lack of interchange. He dropped it on the first and I don't want to make excuses for him but the conditions were slippery. Tolar needs to be on our bench as does Fa'aoso. Tui and Kaufusi brought the grunt and House was the best both in attack and defense. You can't be down on Tolar, he's not the flashiest but what he does he does well.
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I wouldn't have Ciraldo in my first choice side, however he is there because of injuries. But is all this neccessary?
shanemj, you said it with a bit of class, congrats.
As for those wanting Tolar dropped, they know nothing about rugby league.
shanemj
Tim Maddison
I'm not a Ciraldo fan and I won't pretend I am but the Ciraldo hate is unwarranted. I can understand the frustration with him not doing a heck of a lot but there isn't any real need to state the obvious. I won't bag anyone on here because we're all Knights fans and everyone has their opinion. Irregardless of the result, we'll all be watching next week cheering for our faves and knocking our less favourable selections. After watching the Cowboys replay I saw that when we were on the front foot Ciraldo was hitting gaps. His problem is he needs to learn to step up when we're under the pump.
It's all a moot point right now because he picked up a peck injury and we have our troops back on deck. He's wearing blue and red so let's get behind him.
Up the Knights!
It's all a moot point right now because he picked up a peck injury and we have our troops back on deck. He's wearing blue and red so let's get behind him.
Up the Knights!
danielb
Tony Kemp
thank god ciraldo wont be playing next week, southern wasnt hurt and im sure he is in better form than him, full credit to them tho for playing the last 40, not bagging them for that at all and never would, it was tough, and our boys really done well, just dissapointing they made them mistakes when they were fresh on. silly mistakes just irritate the crap outta me.
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all the stats in the world mean nothing when you drop balls in ur own half, but full credit to his consistancy.
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oh he is hopeless get him off, wouldnt bag him for playing great, if any other player did these things every week id be bagging them too.He ran 25 metres off a kick off. Doesn't every single prop in the competition also do this!?!?
With Tolar it's a bloody disgrace though.
all the stats in the world mean nothing when you drop balls in ur own half, but full credit to his consistancy.
shanemj
Tim Maddison
Someone has touched on it before but Bluey Southern was struggling to make the Cowboys team and we blitzed them. I am in no way supporting Ciraldo's performance, but to state someone is a better selection ahead of someone else who is unproven in Knights colours is premature. We know what Bluey is capable of but if it was mobility Stone was going for then he wasn't the choice. Ciraldo trained well but training well means nothing if you can't step up.
Next week we'll have a team that should be fresh and there'll be no excuses. Let's get behind our boys, Fa'aoso dropped it and I wouldn't hold it against him but all teams are capable of simple errors.
Next week we'll have a team that should be fresh and there'll be no excuses. Let's get behind our boys, Fa'aoso dropped it and I wouldn't hold it against him but all teams are capable of simple errors.
Fungus
Steve Simpson
I don't see what I said makes you think I hate Ciraldo or anything. The first post was me just pointing out what happened from what I heard on the radio. Wasn't like I was ****ed at Ciraldo.
Second post was just me annoyed at how bad an afternoon we had, lol.
I just picked out all the posts that mentioned him, yours were certainly mild compared to the others.
NF_47
GoHard|GoKnights|GoProud
I admit, I went over the top calling him second rate. He gave it his best shot and it is all we can ask for. I just get really frustrated with him when he continuosly drops the ball early in the tackle count. Yes, I do want him dropped, but only when Taufua is fit. Nothing against him, he is solid, got a decent workrate and defensive workload but Taufua was probably our best foward last season.
Just because I want him to be dropped when Taufua is fit, dosen't mean know nothing about League.
FFS!!
I was at the game. If anybody on this forum can say that Tolar is up to playing FG after todays performance They should donate their eyes to the blind.
I couldn't give a fuk if he is making so many metres from so many hit ups, the guy let the team down big time today. Call me negative but I can consistently anticipate his errors. Drops the ball in his first touch... Throws shhit offloads which end up as intercepts & then a try a tackle later... He is so soft in defence, you cannot rely on him to physically match up to opposition... He is so sluggish on the field, attaching himself to group tackles after the tackles made.
I don't even need to dis Ciraldo that guy is fukn kidding himself
Together these two blokes lost us the game today, giving penalties, dropping the ball & just simply not in the least threatening the opposition, they are not up to FG standard and NEED TO GO ASAP for the sake of the team!
I was at the game. If anybody on this forum can say that Tolar is up to playing FG after todays performance They should donate their eyes to the blind.
I couldn't give a fuk if he is making so many metres from so many hit ups, the guy let the team down big time today. Call me negative but I can consistently anticipate his errors. Drops the ball in his first touch... Throws shhit offloads which end up as intercepts & then a try a tackle later... He is so soft in defence, you cannot rely on him to physically match up to opposition... He is so sluggish on the field, attaching himself to group tackles after the tackles made.
I don't even need to dis Ciraldo that guy is fukn kidding himself
Together these two blokes lost us the game today, giving penalties, dropping the ball & just simply not in the least threatening the opposition, they are not up to FG standard and NEED TO GO ASAP for the sake of the team!
Candidate for worst post of the year?
I guess its Ciraldo and Tolar's fault Henry, McDonnell, Rogers, Fa'aso, McDonnell, Hilder and Ciraldo himself got injured.....
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