haha i think jonno was making a joke.
Forward re-shuffle?
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haha i think jonno was making a joke.
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Sex On Legs
Figured he was playing devils advocate. Worth a response for discussion purposes.
But he is..
We can sit here & talk about all the things he can no longer do.. & then have him drop the ball like 4 times a game, every game, doesn't it just make sense.
The argument that he makes the most metres is a crap one. Alot of his metres come from supporting runs & the fact that he tries to get as many touches as possible to boost his metre count. Put it this way, if we were trying to work of or line he would be my last choice prop for a hit up.
If he wasnt keeping a young, enthusiastic & talented local player out of the team week too week mayb alot of people on here wouldn't be hell bent on picking on him. From where I stand he needs too go and Edwards needs a turn
Grandpa Joe
Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
If your going to take that tone how about we settle our differences in the carpark next game?
NF_47
GoHard|GoKnights|GoProud
Sounds like a plan to me, your on! :tongue:
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Sex On Legs
Exaggeration much? He had 1 of our 10 handling errors last game and 1 of our 10 handling errors against Penrith round 1.
Also, saying him leading us in metres gained is a crap argument is a load of crap in itself. You said the only reason he makes all those metres is because of his "supporting runs" and the fact that he "tries to get as many touches as possible". So if I'm to take you seriously, you're saying him leading us in metres gained is a negative or should be ignored purely because he's a good support player and has a high work rate in attack?
Wow. Good logic there.
You then go on to say he's keeping an "enthusiastic" player in Edwards out of the team. How is all his "supporting runs" and him trying to touch the ball as much as possible not showing enthusiasm? I mean he's leading the team in both hit-ups and metres gained for crying out loud. He has the same amount of hit-ups as Uate but is averaging more metres then him, and Uate's one of the most attacking and dangerous players in the game with the ball in his hand. What more do you want from Tolar?
Way to lose all credibility pal.
Surely you're not being serious?
Grandpa Joe
Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
Deadly serious as Lord of the Skraelings I cannot afford to loose their respect or they will overwhelm the realm.
Exaggeration much? He had 1 of our 10 handling errors last game and 1 of our 10 handling errors against Penrith round 1.
Also, saying him leading us in metres gained is a crap argument is a load of crap in itself. You said the only reason he makes all those metres is because of his "supporting runs" and the fact that he "tries to get as many touches as possible". So if I'm to take you seriously, you're saying him leading us in metres gained is a negative or should be ignored purely because he's a good support player and has a high work rate in attack?
Wow. Good logic there.
You then go on to say he's keeping an "enthusiastic" player in Edwards out of the team. How is all his "supporting runs" and him trying to touch the ball as much as possible not showing enthusiasm? I mean he's leading the team in both hit-ups and metres gained for crying out loud. He has the same amount of hit-ups as Uate but is averaging more metres then him, and Uate's one of the most attacking and dangerous players in the game with the ball in his hand. What more do you want from Tolar?
Way to lose all credibility pal.
Pfft that's the way, take what you want from what was said.
Did I ever say he wasn't a busy forward? I said he doesnt make the metres from a hit up like he should OR as many as I'm certain Edwards would & therefore doesn't deserve a spot by comparison.
I'm not sure why you would contrast stats between Tolar & Uate... That's not going to tell you anything about Tolar as a prop. Common knowledge mate.
The fact is Tolar is a decent prop, but Edwards is better...
Im not sure any of the nonsense you posted was credible. Its not as if you had any credibility to lose
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Sex On Legs
Common knowledge says you don't drop the guy who's leading the team in hit-ups and metres gained when he's obviously been a big contributor to the success of our forward pack which has helped us dominate both the Panthers and Cowboys in back to back weeks.
Not that you have any common knowledge.
danielb
Tony Kemp
watched a bit of the replay to see tolar make his 100plus metres, i seen one run returned for 25metres off a drop out and thought well thats not hard metres, i would luv to see big red put some blokes on thier A this weekend, as far as patto being slower, well thats bull, pato can run.
NF_47
GoHard|GoKnights|GoProud
This.
Pato isn't the fastest backrower you will see, but comparing him to Tolar in speed terms is pretty stupid. I have seen Pato in open space and run about 40 metres untouched to the try line. Never seen Tolar do that.
danielb
Tony Kemp
bahaha maybe thats why we are 2 from 2!!
maybe its why we arnt 0 from 2.....
Pretty stupid? Well thank you very much!
I have seen Paterson in the open and he's chugged along like he was running through quicksand. When did this 40 metre try take place? I'd like a game please, given you've made up facts about Ndaira keeping Luke out of first grade when he didn't. Not to mention the Mika for the Kiwis team debacle. And the anti-Mitchell Pearce vendetta.
Obviously you've got it in for Tolar, your bias makes it hard to have a conversation with you, but I don't expect to be called stupid when I do.
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