2023 Recruitment & Retention Thread

"decent " doesn't win premierships unfortunately. Remember this is a weak roster and we are talking about a spine position and a player with 2 season ending injuries in his short time at the club.

Look to long term next year ? shouldn't they have been looking to long term when they took over the Knights. ? We'd be flush with talent ready for first grade by now.
I don't think looking to the future hasn't been part of the mindset for successive Knights recruiters, I think the truth of the matter is NO HOOKER with any capability is coming near the Knights number 9 jersey with a 10 m barge pole...

Rory Kostjasyn, Slade Griffin, Andrew McCullough, Connor Watson (while playing hooker) and Jayden Brailey - we have tried to find decent players (acknowledging Watson is part of the 'curse' but not a genuine hooker) over the past several seasons to fill a key role in the spine and they have been 'kissed' by the curse that is the Knights No. 9 jersey...thinking back, maybe that is why Brown tried to turn every player he ever had at the club into a hooker?!🤔🤔🤔

I have some faith that Parr might crack this nut in the longer term but the true % of the time the Knights have been able to put their full first string spine on the field over the past 10 years would have to be in the single digits and well below pretty much every other club in the NRL
 
ok I will have to disagree, some studies show over 30% ( I chose the one at the top of my search page - but it is fairly common knowledge ) that's a big risk for a player on 2 season ending injuries. Place the entire teams season on 1 spine player and no good back -up ? well you'd fit right in to being a Knights supporter, you should apply for a management role?
It's actually 3 season ending injuries. 2 ACLs and the Achilles. It was a fail to not have a decent back up hooker. But I think the even bigger fail would be for us to not look for a long term replacement. Brailey's body cannot be trusted anymore. I really hope we aren't looking to cover him with a random for a year, just for him to slot back in and watch history repeat itself.
 
But I think the even bigger fail would be for us to not look for a long term replacement. Brailey's body cannot be trusted anymore. I really hope we aren't looking to cover him with a random for a year, just for him to slot back in and watch history repeat itself.
totally agree, it's time the club got ruthless. Tap Brailey on the shoulder, part ways and move in another direction. Hopefully with a hooker that's a threat in attack.
 
who is this Riley Jones you speak of ? is he a hooker with plenty of tomorrows ? or another utility player
Well, his 3 games since coming back from his injury he suffered in the pre-season have been at hooker - 2 in Flegg and a very good outing in reserve grade on the weekend.
Basically he's been kicking around in juniors for years without really being a standout in any position.
Last year he had a growth spurt and forced his way into the Flegg side as a fullback, centre, 5/8 and hooker. Many say he was our biggest improver in Flegg as we made the GF. I think 5/8 is his best spot - he's tall, very fast, very athletic and can score a length of the field try if he sees half a gap. In the Flegg game v Manly 2 weeks ago he made 2 line breaks and scored a 60 metre try and set up his winger after a long run.
So who is he? He's a very athletic utility who goes OK at hooker.
 
Well, his 3 games since coming back from his injury he suffered in the pre-season have been at hooker - 2 in Flegg and a very good outing in reserve grade on the weekend.
Basically he's been kicking around in juniors for years without really being a standout in any position.
Last year he had a growth spurt and forced his way into the Flegg side as a fullback, centre, 5/8 and hooker. I think 5/8 is his best spot - he's tall, very fast, very athletic and can score a length of the field try if he sees half a gap. In the Flegg game v Manly 2 weeks ago he made 2 line breaks and scored a 60 metre try and set up his winger after a long run.
So who is he? He's a very athletic utility who goes OK at hooker.
Think he goes better than ok. Brained them in last few games as you said Billy. Let’s hope he can keep it rolling. Team has improved immensely since he’s been back and he outscored Miller in D and especially attack at 9 yesterday. His running game at 9 is great.

Don’t think we’ll get much outta Rugless or Kalepo. Noah be next best junior wise as a 9. Just needs to stay on the damn field. Been so unlucky with injury.
 
The Knights should just follow the Roosters MO and identify the best young 16 - 18 yr old spine players in Australia , sign them up to long term deals.

I admire how with Tupou and JWH getting older and nearing the end the Roosters identify the next superstars of the game, go out and sign the next generational players like Dom Young and Spencer Leniu to contribute to the next 10 yrs of their success. Clubs like the Knights just bend over and cop it without a whimper.
 
The Knights should just follow the Roosters MO and identify the best young 16 - 18 yr old spine players in Australia , sign them up to long term deals.

I admire how with Tupou and JWH getting older and nearing the end the Roosters identify the next superstars of the game, go out and sign the next generational players like Dom Young and Spencer Leniu to contribute to the next 10 yrs of their success. Clubs like the Knights just bend over and cop it without a whimper.
The bottom line is that players would rather live in Bondi than Newcastle.
It's why most of the best players we attract come from country towns in NSW or Qld.
 
The bottom line is that players would rather live in Bondi than Newcastle.
It's why most of the best players we attract come from country towns in NSW or Qld.
Lifestyle aside, surely Wests Group must have some connections in business to make attractive offers outside footy, career packages to set players up off the field?. Life after football etc?
 
Lifestyle aside, surely Wests Group must have some connections in business to make attractive offers outside footy, career packages to set players up off the field?. Life after football etc?
It seems obvious to us that they can have a very nice life in Newcastle, but young men from cities rarely see that.
Klemmer is an interesting exception. I believe his wife and family are back living fulltime in Lake Macquarie and he stays with his in-laws for footy and back to the lake on days off.
 
Newcastle is a lovely city to live in, it is clean and doesn’t have the traffic of Sydney and the people in Newcastle are friendlier. I’m sure the players will be able to meet up with good looking women in Newcastle. I know the nightlife doesn’t compare with Sydney. I grew up in Newcastle and then moved to Sydney, so I’m talking from experience.
 
oops, :giggle: in the 21st century ignorance is a choice.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/07/130711084135.htm

"Overall, 29.5% of athletes suffered a second ACL injury within 24 months of returning to activity with 20.5% sustaining an opposite leg injury "
I was going to say roughly the same thing. Anyone with eyes know that an ACL injury in this game means a fair chance it could happen again and often does. It’s extremely rare anyone that’s done more than two comes back at all. We rolled a dice with Edrick Lee and we’re lucky we got something out of him in the end, he’s been very lucky over all.
 
I was going to say roughly the same thing. Anyone with eyes know that an ACL injury in this game means a fair chance it could happen again and often does. It’s extremely rare anyone that’s done more than two comes back at all. We rolled a dice with Edrick Lee and we’re lucky we got something out of him in the end, he’s been very lucky over all.
massively unacceptable odds, and management then extended his deal. ( we arent talking Harry Grant here ) Then has had years to put in place a great contingency plan in that position.

Certainly there's no " we are playing to win the Premiership " mentality shown by management , why on earth would the playing group show anything better.
 
Can someone with a Herald subscription give a summary of this:

Just said the pair met for a catch up, nothing business related.

Also says AOB doesn't want local players leaving referring to DSAF and Braddy. He also goes on to say he thinks both are playing well........seems he is watching a different DSAF sometimes.

AOB mentions he doesn't talk about recruitment and retention.
 
Can someone with a Herald subscription give a summary of this:

Max McKinney implies there is something going on because Gould driving up from Sydney to have a coffee with Parr seems suss.
Parr says they are old friends and had a coffee and didn't talk about anything football related - and also Santa Claus is real, the Knights are about to sign Nathan Cleary and we have funding for a new billion dollar stadium (those last 3 I might have made up, but it felt like we were here to tell fairy tales).
 
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