2023 Recruitment & Retention Thread
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Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
these days toohey just puts 2 and 2 together and often comes up with 5.
The Gidley flick
Max Chapman
Anyone read the article in the herald from Peter parr
What did it say ?
BETTERTHANLEGO
Jason Moodie
“If the roosters want him” I think Peter might be in denial.
Knights football director Peter Parr is confident Newcastle remain an attractive club despite star winger Dominic Young electing to join the Roosters next season.
Young and his management told the Knights and other clubs chasing his signature that they were out of the running late Monday.
The 21-year-old has committed to the Roosters for 2024 and looks set to sign at least a four-year deal with the glamour Sydney club.
The Newcastle Herald understands the Knights offered in the vicinity of $2 million over four seasons but were still short of what Young had on the table from elsewhere.
Sources from Young's camp suggested the Knights were the lowest of the final offers considered.
Newcastle believed they were a chance to retain Young with a competitive offer but they were not willing to break the bank for a winger. However, Young has spoken of his desire to be a centre.
"We thought it was a really good offer, and it was what we could afford," Parr said.
"We did everything possible that we could do to keep him, but at the end of the day it's a decision for Dom to make and you have to respect that."
Young's departure is disappointing for the Knights given they spent two years developing him into an established NRL player, and a bitter blow for supporters after he became one of the club's most popular players and a genuine rising star.
The English international had attracted interest from up to nine NRL clubs over summer following a standout 2022 campaign but was recently won over by a meet and greet with Roosters coach Trent Robinson.
"I think the club's still an attractive place to be," Parr said. "But for us, we need to be sure we convince others of that. We think we're heading in the right direction."
Young's decision to leave Newcastle has sparked debate about whether the club should persist with him in first grade or even release him early, potentially as part of a player-swap.
But Parr shot down the possibility of him being exiled to NSW Cup and said the club had no interest in an early release.
"Not at this point in time," he said.
"He's contracted to us and we've done all our planning around having him in the team. We're not going to pull our plans apart just because the Roosters might want him."
News of Young's decision came ahead of Newcastle's season launch on Tuesday night and little more than a week before the club's first game.
Newcastle is going through a re-calibration of how their salary cap is spent having recently signed a new halfback in Jackson Hastings, new fullback in Lachlan Miller and extended Kalyn Ponga last year on a revised mega-deal. The latter is also now playing in the halves.
But the Knights may live to regret not pushing to re-sign Young early last season when he was clearly emerging as an attacking weapon.
However, Parr only arrived at the club in August and had plenty on his plate to deal with in the opening few months of his tenure.
And once Young looked a chance to be picked for England, his management were always going to hold off for November 1, the date from which he could talk to other clubs, to test the market.
Young's performances at the World Cup, in which he scored nine tries in five games, also likely significantly increased interest from other clubs and his value.
The towering winger, among the quickest players in the NRL, has scored 18 tries in 26 games.
He appeared unfazed by his much-publicised recent contract talks in Newcastle's 36-14 trial loss to Parramatta on Friday, his first game of the year, scoring a try and narrowly missing a second.
Newcastle begin their 2023 season against the Warriors in Wellington, New Zealand, on Friday week.
Young and his management told the Knights and other clubs chasing his signature that they were out of the running late Monday.
The 21-year-old has committed to the Roosters for 2024 and looks set to sign at least a four-year deal with the glamour Sydney club.
The Newcastle Herald understands the Knights offered in the vicinity of $2 million over four seasons but were still short of what Young had on the table from elsewhere.
Sources from Young's camp suggested the Knights were the lowest of the final offers considered.
Newcastle believed they were a chance to retain Young with a competitive offer but they were not willing to break the bank for a winger. However, Young has spoken of his desire to be a centre.
"We thought it was a really good offer, and it was what we could afford," Parr said.
"We did everything possible that we could do to keep him, but at the end of the day it's a decision for Dom to make and you have to respect that."
Young's departure is disappointing for the Knights given they spent two years developing him into an established NRL player, and a bitter blow for supporters after he became one of the club's most popular players and a genuine rising star.
The English international had attracted interest from up to nine NRL clubs over summer following a standout 2022 campaign but was recently won over by a meet and greet with Roosters coach Trent Robinson.
"I think the club's still an attractive place to be," Parr said. "But for us, we need to be sure we convince others of that. We think we're heading in the right direction."
Young's decision to leave Newcastle has sparked debate about whether the club should persist with him in first grade or even release him early, potentially as part of a player-swap.
But Parr shot down the possibility of him being exiled to NSW Cup and said the club had no interest in an early release.
"Not at this point in time," he said.
"He's contracted to us and we've done all our planning around having him in the team. We're not going to pull our plans apart just because the Roosters might want him."
News of Young's decision came ahead of Newcastle's season launch on Tuesday night and little more than a week before the club's first game.
Newcastle is going through a re-calibration of how their salary cap is spent having recently signed a new halfback in Jackson Hastings, new fullback in Lachlan Miller and extended Kalyn Ponga last year on a revised mega-deal. The latter is also now playing in the halves.
But the Knights may live to regret not pushing to re-sign Young early last season when he was clearly emerging as an attacking weapon.
However, Parr only arrived at the club in August and had plenty on his plate to deal with in the opening few months of his tenure.
And once Young looked a chance to be picked for England, his management were always going to hold off for November 1, the date from which he could talk to other clubs, to test the market.
Young's performances at the World Cup, in which he scored nine tries in five games, also likely significantly increased interest from other clubs and his value.
The towering winger, among the quickest players in the NRL, has scored 18 tries in 26 games.
He appeared unfazed by his much-publicised recent contract talks in Newcastle's 36-14 trial loss to Parramatta on Friday, his first game of the year, scoring a try and narrowly missing a second.
Newcastle begin their 2023 season against the Warriors in Wellington, New Zealand, on Friday week.
I can’t blame Dom because I would most likely do the same thing if I was him. What reasons would there be to choose us as a club over the roosters?
Yes we did give him a contract which may have been a risk, but he also took a risk by choosing to move to our country and choosing our club. I think he has always tried his best in each game, so what more could you ask for?
If I had a fixed length contract in my job and another offer come up, I would do what I think is best for me and my family at the time and for future opportunities in my career
Personally I hope he goes really well for us this year and then continues to be a great player wherever he ends up, except when he plays against us. You would have to think that his going go close for highest try scorer with that roosters backline
The frustrating for me is the position our club has been in for such a long time. I hope that we are seriously making sure that we are in a better position moving forward and we can become competitive across all areas of the game, both on and off the field
Yes we did give him a contract which may have been a risk, but he also took a risk by choosing to move to our country and choosing our club. I think he has always tried his best in each game, so what more could you ask for?
If I had a fixed length contract in my job and another offer come up, I would do what I think is best for me and my family at the time and for future opportunities in my career
Personally I hope he goes really well for us this year and then continues to be a great player wherever he ends up, except when he plays against us. You would have to think that his going go close for highest try scorer with that roosters backline
The frustrating for me is the position our club has been in for such a long time. I hope that we are seriously making sure that we are in a better position moving forward and we can become competitive across all areas of the game, both on and off the field
Kickitoverhere
James Goulding
I personally am stoked we didn’t pay more than 450 for him. He’s a top 5 attacking winger but bottom 5 defensive. He’s honestly just a small step above marzhew for me in current form. He does have potential but we’ve been burnt time and time again paying for potential (safs, ponga, clifford etc.)
mullenmagic
Matthew Gidley
He has had a few tackle attempts that are outright embarrassing for a first grader and struggles under bombs but wouldn't put him on the same level as Marzhew. Think his general awareness/reads this year were pretty solid considering the circumstances and it helps having an athlete like that in cover defence.
KnightsUnite
Banned
One is... the other 550k I think last time I checked
KnightsUnite
Banned
So what did the roosters offer him...
Seems Knights were over 500k and the lowest?
Seems Knights were over 500k and the lowest?
Lefty
Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
Well we will have 1 less winger on our books for 2024. It will increase the opportunities for players like Marzhew, if they are good enough.
slotmachine
Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
Might be time for an appointment with the optometrist mate.
danknights
Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
Yes and for me, Take d gags spot. It's a trial and error kinda thing but I'd be all for it. Too late now I guess.
Says he played there in the juniors before coming to the Knights, so has experience. Totally worth a shot!
If he wanted to play centre. He has a right hand carry and I don’t think he will replace Manu on the right anytime soon.
Most likely manager talk to get more money. JAC was telling everyone he wanted to play fullback when he was off contract at the Storm.
Kickitoverhere
James Goulding
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If you swap them sides and have young defending outside fitz ponga and best he’d be a laughing stock in defense
l”ll stand by it. Marzhew has a better running game but is prone to more defensive errors in general defense. Not sure if you watched but as soon as England played a decent team they found young out. Short kick behind him to make him turn slowly and attacking bombs.
If you swap them sides and have young defending outside fitz ponga and best he’d be a laughing stock in defense