NRL Round 14 - Storm V Knights - 2:00pm Sunday 9th June - AAMI Park, Melbourne

Annesley the flop didnt even address our first no try incident. I swear he makes it up as he goes. He justified the obstruction on Dylan Brown for the Bulldogs winning try, saying that in the opinion of the bunker Brown would not have kept up with that play. Haven't we been ruling this as black and white irrespective if the obstructed defensive player would have got to the play? That has literally been the argument everytime when common sense has been thrown out the window.
 
Annesley the flop didnt even address our first no try incident. I swear he makes it up as he goes. He justified the obstruction on Dylan Brown for the Bulldogs winning try, saying that in the opinion of the bunker Brown would not have kept up with that play. Haven't we been ruling this as black and white irrespective if the obstructed defensive player would have got to the play? That has literally been the argument everytime when common sense has been thrown out the window.

They make this crap up as they go, rules need to be black and white. You cannot use this in our opinion BS, that's opens the door to manipulation and cheating.

Not surprised at all they didn't address anything in the knights game, no way would they question Melbourne.
 
What I have trouble stomaching is a clearly bad call gets pushed upstairs and the idiot there doesn’t look at the whole thing. Often you feel they’ve made their mind up like with the disallowed Knights try. The video ref was calling it before the footage had a chance to play and then didn’t consider anything other than that he was correct. If he took more than half a second to look at it he would see it was the wrong call. Even the commentators were aghast.

That doesn’t just happen to Newcastle though, it happens in most games every week however nothing ever changes.
The bunker gets a totally different feed to the tv coverage, so just because it hasn’t been shown on tv doesn’t mean they haven’t looked at it.
 
My take on it is refs do their best in probably the most difficult sport to referee on the planet. Take a look at a game of rugby union or a-league and you might revise your opinion on how well ours perform and the processes they go through, the NRL is light years ahead.

Loser clubs moan about the refs and sadly we’ve been one for a long time! Plus outrage sells so the media is unfortunately always going to play up to it. There’s always a few legit issues, but I don’t buy into all the talk that they’re a disgrace, etc.

But of course if you constantly fixate on it, you’ll feed into your own narrative. 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
My take on it is refs do their best in probably the most difficult sport to referee on the planet. Take a look at a game of rugby union or a-league and you might revise your opinion on how well ours perform and the processes they go through, the NRL is light years ahead.

Loser clubs moan about the refs and sadly we’ve been one for a long time! Plus outrage sells so the media is unfortunately always going to play up to it. There’s always a few legit issues, but I don’t buy into all the talk that they’re a disgrace, etc.

But of course if you constantly fixate on it, you’ll feed into your own narrative. 🤷🏻‍♂️
I think there is something psychological that goes on with most where something against your team is given a lot more weight then something going for your team. Like a penalty against us leads to "WHAT THE HELL ARE YOUR EYES PAINTED ON, I'VE NEVER SEEN SUCH INCOMPETENCE IN MY WHOLE ENTIRE LIFE, YOUR PARENTS MUST BE SO EMBARRASSED!!" and we hold on to that moment for days, then a penalty for us is met with "fair call, play on". Don't forget too that when you are at the ground thr whole crowd is calling the opposition offside 3 out of 4 plays. When the home side gets a penalty for it, it's like about time, but the opposition gets one and everyone jumps up and down going but sir, they are the ones...

A good example was Gutho approaching the ref the other day saying he'd cost Parramatta the game, when the stats suggest he did everything to keep them in it.
 
Watch a game as a neutral and you will see clear bias towards the team that's "meant" to win.

I get it's a tough sport to ref but the technology has ruined it and these rubbish set restarts also.

Go back to how it used to be with no bunker, no set restarts etc....if a ref made a wrong decision so be it.

What makes things worse is you get this clueless annesley trying to justify wrong decisions.
 
I think there is something psychological that goes on with most where something against your team is given a lot more weight then something going for your team. Like a penalty against us leads to "WHAT THE HELL ARE YOUR EYES PAINTED ON, I'VE NEVER SEEN SUCH INCOMPETENCE IN MY WHOLE ENTIRE LIFE, YOUR PARENTS MUST BE SO EMBARRASSED!!" and we hold on to that moment for days, then a penalty for us is met with "fair call, play on". Don't forget too that when you are at the ground thr whole crowd is calling the opposition offside 3 out of 4 plays. When the home side gets a penalty for it, it's like about time, but the opposition gets one and everyone jumps up and down going but sir, they are the ones...

A good example was Gutho approaching the ref the other day saying he'd cost Parramatta the game, when the stats suggest he did everything to keep them in it.
This is so true lol.
 
Watch a game as a neutral and you will see clear bias towards the team that's "meant" to win.

I get it's a tough sport to ref but the technology has ruined it and these rubbish set restarts also.

Go back to how it used to be with no bunker, no set restarts etc....if a ref made a wrong decision so be it.

What makes things worse is you get this clueless annesley trying to justify wrong decisions.
But we’re usually cheering for the underdog team though, so what Owey said applies I think. We’re still not looking at it through a neutral lens, especially if we think one of the sides is meant to win (usually because they are in fact the better team).
 
Brian Smith used the boxing analogy while he was here, if you want to beat the champ you have to knock him out. You won't get the points decision from the judges. If we win regularly and are expected to do so, we will get more 50/50 calls.
 
I think it’s ok to call out a ****ed up call or two. Doesn’t mean you are a piece of s*** if you have an occasional issue with it. Most games they lose it’s because the team was not on point or just plain diabolical but occasionally the ref really screws it up and that ref on the weekend needs time in the lower grades to work it out again. That’s just my view on it.
 
I think just not getting one 6 again the other day is frustrating with a Knights bias or not.
Especially against Melbourne who push the envelope more than most teams. How could they get so many but we couldn't get one. Biased or not, did we really look that much worse than them in the ruck?
 
Watch a game as a neutral and you will see clear bias towards the team that's "meant" to win.

I get it's a tough sport to ref but the technology has ruined it and these rubbish set restarts also.

Go back to how it used to be with no bunker, no set restarts etc....if a ref made a wrong decision so be it.

What makes things worse is you get this clueless annesley trying to justify wrong decisions.
Unfortunately the NRL is now “owned” by the betting companies, and when sides lose, their fans are often in pain a second time, their hip pocket.
The game has never been the same since betting go involved.
This simple reason is why many rusted on fans are walking away.
 
My take on it is refs do their best in probably the most difficult sport to referee on the planet. Take a look at a game of rugby union or a-league and you might revise your opinion on how well ours perform and the processes they go through, the NRL is light years ahead.

Loser clubs moan about the refs and sadly we’ve been one for a long time! Plus outrage sells so the media is unfortunately always going to play up to it. There’s always a few legit issues, but I don’t buy into all the talk that they’re a disgrace, etc.

But of course if you constantly fixate on it, you’ll feed into your own narrative. 🤷🏻‍♂️
I’d rather have the bunker than the debacle that is VAR in the EPL. Check this out where the miscommunication between the video ref and the on field official ruled out a perfectly good goal for Liverpool.
 
I’d rather have the bunker than the debacle that is VAR in the EPL. Check this out where the miscommunication between the video ref and the on field official ruled out a perfectly good goal for Liverpool.
Every time I’ve seen it implemented (not often, I’m not a huge fan of soccer) it seems to be around 7 or 8 minutes of the on-field ref squinting at a small tv screen on the sideline before coming up with the totally wrong decision lol.
 
Every time I’ve seen it implemented (not often, I’m not a huge fan of soccer) it seems to be around 7 or 8 minutes of the on-field ref squinting at a small tv screen on the sideline before coming up with the totally wrong decision lol.
You got it in one! Terrible implementation of technology. In most sports the technology adds to the spectacle of the sport. Like tennis, cricket and most of the time both codes of rugby but football managed to mess it up in a big way.
 
You got it in one! Terrible implementation of technology. In most sports the technology adds to the spectacle of the sport. Like tennis, cricket and most of the time both codes of rugby but football managed to mess it up in a big way.
Rugby union seems very poor to me too, the video ref can just come in on any play for any reason and virtually ends up controlling the whole game, going back several phases of play, and over-ruling the on-field ref constantly. That may have just been the World Cup final (as with soccer, I don’t watch much union), but that was an abysmal spectacle.

They also decide on sin bins and send offs about 8 minutes after the player has been marched. The video ref needs that long to decide if it should be a yellow or red card. Crazy!

Rugby league is so efficient in comparison.
 
Especially against Melbourne who push the envelope more than most teams. How could they get so many but we couldn't get one. Biased or not, did we really look that much worse than them in the ruck?
The theory that the outcomes of judicial incompetence will even out for each team over time, therefore, leaving no team at a disadvantage, doesn't nearly explain the phenomenon of referring in the NRL.

The way certain clubs get a fairly consistent rub of the green is best explained by default bias. The refs unconscious interpretation of any given event is influenced by myriad of factors, of these are factors which are common among better clubs, and there are factors common among weaker clubs. That's the simplest way to describe it.

But to pretend there is no bias, just because no bias is intended, in my view requires a great deal of aversion to what are long lasting and persistent judicial inconsistencies
 
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