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Les Misérables said:
It plays a part. Im certainly not making the argument that it is all that is required. Im not that naive. My argument is that it is largely what we are lacking. We currently hold a strong financial position, our infrastructure is substantial, our juniors are yielding turnover from years of investment, the signing of POS, other staff and the core of our roster are all very exciting.

What we are missing imo is an intolerance for failure. And we know this is true for the simple fact that the club is clearly prioritising the value liability of OBs contract over the negative cultural affects of keeping him in his position. That is my argument manifest.

If they sack OB some time in the near future Im happy to reconsider my perspective. But until they do, they're just proving me right.
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I legit think they are of the view that he's the right person for the job & they're looking at the injuries + thin squad as an out. If they were going to give him the chop based on performance, it would have been after the Titans or Eels game.

I think POS holds a lot of sway too & I think he likes Adam (it's very unusual to see him in a coach's box and couldn't help but notice he and AOB shared a big hug after the win last night, after AOB had hugged Greeny) and he's telling them the issues at the moment are a failure of recruitment/retention prior to him arriving. We'd have to see things get worse first before he gets the knife.

EDIT: Also I think the fact there's no obvious standout replacement candidate is helping him too. ATM the list of possible replacements is a bunch of names which will probably still be there in two months time. I'm definitely one of the people who wand Brad Arthur, but I've since talked to a few Eels fans and have basically gotten the take "Brad has no imagination, he's obsessed with winning the power game, he's incredibly stubborn and sticks with imperfect tactics for weeks and weeks and weeks" so... who knows. Would we just be swapping AOB for another AOB?
 
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HarVeeGee13 said:
I legit think they are of the view that he's the right person for the job & they're looking at the injuries + thin squad as an out. If they were going to give him the chop based on performance, it would have been after the Titans or Eels game.

I think POS holds a lot of sway too & I think he likes Adam (it's very unusual to see him in a coach's box and couldn't help but notice he and AOB shared a big hug after the win last night, after AOB had hugged Greeny) and he's telling them the issues at the moment are a failure of recruitment/retention prior to him arriving. We'd have to see things get worse first before he gets the knife.
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If they're looking for a custodian for a rebuild and if POS actually thinks OB is that guy, then I could probably get my head around that. But that's as close to pure speculation as any of these other theories

POS surely isn't of the opinion that OB will assist his efforts in bringing new players to the club? Though it is plausible that the club is being tentative given how many moving parts are at play at this moment i.e. junior dev, Ponga, new signings and on field success. Its a fair hypothesis that they're just waiting another few weeks before they pull trigger on something they cannot undo. Which I understand. Don't agree with it but I can understand it
 
Les Misérables said:
If they're looking for a custodian for a rebuild and if POS actually thinks OB is that guy, then I could probably get my head around that. But that's as close to pure speculation as any of these other theories

POS surely isn't of the opinion that OB will assist his efforts in bringing new players to the club? Though it is plausible that the club is being tentative given how many moving parts are at play at this moment i.e. junior dev, Ponga, new signings and on field success. Its a fair hypothesis that they're just waiting another few weeks before they pull trigger on something they cannot undo. Which I understand. Don't agree with it but I can understand it
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Yeah there’s that too. They’ve just paid all this money for THE recruitment guy. Just dropped the biggest contract in NRL history on the half POS and AOB wanted to sign. They thought this would be the transition year to that new era. And then… oh **** do we need to sack the coach?

They’ll do it once they feel like they have to. Or I guess if Trent Robbo or someone like that gets turfed by the Roosters, maybe they try to snap him up.
 
Think we have Obi until contract ends, am thinking that he will be given until then to show what the Brown recruitment brings rather than try someone else that was not involved.
The thinking if I’m right is probably the large spending of the Brown contract as well as the paying out of Obi to be replaced by someone and likely paid the same with no guarantees of success.
I am not happy with Obi, yes we have had serious injuries, and I was all for moving him on but having given it a bit of thought we will have him a bit longer.
Wishing and hoping only frustrates us, accepting the likelihood of what will likely be is better.
 
Frank McWilliams said:
Think we have Obi until contract ends, am thinking that he will be given until then to show what the Brown recruitment brings rather than try someone else that was not involved.
The thinking if I’m right is probably the large spending of the Brown contract as well as the paying out of Obi to be replaced by someone and likely paid the same with no guarantees of success.
I am not happy with Obi, yes we have had serious injuries, and I was all for moving him on but having given it a bit of thought we will have him a bit longer.
Wishing and hoping only frustrates us, accepting the likelihood of what will likely be is better.
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As long as Obi doesn’t foul up the natural talents of Brown(and I’m assuming others yet to arrive) with his bone headed “system” and let’s the guys play what’s in front of them.
 
Reminds me of an interview I listened to with one of the All Blacks coaches at their height. He was asked why the All Blacks dominated Australia, and he pointed out several reasons, including that they play/train regardless of conditions, whereas in Australia, the local council will shut down grounds quicker than you can say "light showers".

He also mentioned that they rarely criticised a bloke for playing what he sees in front of him, even if it goes wrong. The theory being that they'd rather live with mistakes than coach the creativity out of players.
 
12/6

Says Fletcher Hunt is currently on 12k a year second tier deal and 3k for each NRL game and a train and trial payment. A new development deal for 85k could be announced as early as next week, with a top 30 contract in the future.
In other Fletcher news, if Sharpe fails to get fit for the Roosters game, Hunt might shift to fullback with McCarthy to centre.

Will Cannavo was supposed to go onto a development deal next year, but was told he wasn't at that level, so he left the club.

Dom Young could be rushed into the side for the Dolphins game. Frizell, Best, Ponga and Gamble could all be back for the Dolphins game, but JSaf will need another week.
 
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At least next week we are gonna have some selection headaches again, looking roughly like:
1. Ponga
2. Marzhew
3. Best
4. Gagai
5. Hunt/Schiller/Young
6. Sharpe
7. Cogger/Hastings
8. Frizell
9. Brailey
10. B Jones
11. Lucas
12. KPP
13. Crossland

14. Arthur/Gamble
15. Croker
16. Cant/T Thompson
17. McEwen/ESL
 
Billy said:
12/6

Says Fletcher Hunt is currently on 12k a year second tier deal and 3k for each NRL game and a train and trial payment. A new development deal for 85k could be announced as early as next week, with a top 30 contract in the future.
In other Fletcher news, if Sharpe fails to get fit for the Manly game, Hunt might shift to fullback with McCarthy to centre.

Will Cannavo was supposed to go onto a development deal next year, but was told he wasn't at that level, so he left the club.

Dom Young could be rushed into the side for the Dolphins game. Frizell, Best, Ponga and Gamble could all be back for the Dolphins game, but JSaf will need another week.
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Sounds like now that Gardner stepping down, O’Sullivan isn’t going to be pushed around by Gardner or Mr Cannavo in keeping players that club isn’t happy with
 
Billy said:
12/6

Says Fletcher Hunt is currently on 12k a year second tier deal and 3k for each NRL game and a train and trial payment. A new development deal for 85k could be announced as early as next week, with a top 30 contract in the future.
In other Fletcher news, if Sharpe fails to get fit for the Roosters game, Hunt might shift to fullback with McCarthy to centre.

Will Cannavo was supposed to go onto a development deal next year, but was told he wasn't at that level, so he left the club.

Dom Young could be rushed into the side for the Dolphins game. Frizell, Best, Ponga and Gamble could all be back for the Dolphins game, but JSaf will need another week.
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Is Blake and Will related?
 
I would have needed caring about Rugby League if Wil Freaking Cannavo was announced on the development list next year. Atrocious having a fiend like Blake Cannavo forcing selections and contracts.

Really hope this is our golden age in the front office now with Chris James in charge, Gardiner out and Parr/Sully/Blair unhindered.

Making this a plolaxe and system players and coaches want to come and be apart of.

Holy **** I need to proof read my post. Also not post from just waking up. Christ almighty excuse the terrible spelling folks. I’m going to leave the mistakes in there as it’s too comical not too.
 
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Mate, I worked my butt off to get a degree (two, actually) and I can't spell worth a damn without the red line....and grammar....oh boy, don't get me started...

PS. Red line corrected dam for me....lol
 
Seano said:
Mate, I worked my butt off to get a degree (two, actually) and I can't spell worth a damn without the red line....and grammar....oh boy, don't get me started...

PS. Red line corrected dam for me....lol
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Get mixed up with spelling “there” and “their” still do but once got told by an office supervisor, Don’t worry most don’t know the difference anyway. Lots off us spell as it sounds but nowadays we have spell check
 
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