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Sammyyy
Knights 2013
Lol.
heres another article for tommorow's paper from Slothfield
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...pay-player-wages/story-e6frexnr-1226497338022
heres another article for tommorow's paper from Slothfield
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...pay-player-wages/story-e6frexnr-1226497338022
Where did you hear that?
Imagine if this happened during the season. When we were blown off the park by Manly through the week there was articles about Nathan Tinklers financial situation. We can have have the best Coach and a great roster but if there continue to be off field distractions then we'll never win a comp. My advice to to HSG pay you bills on time or early and don't give others anything to talk or worry about.
josh2010
Up The Knights!!!!!
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I think Rothfield is actually losing his mind.
The senior players and staff went on camp to the Central Coast a week or so ago, didn't they?
The senior players and staff went on camp to the Central Coast a week or so ago, didn't they?
lol whut. Of course they didn't invite the captain and longest serving player of the club.
I think Rothfield is actually losing his mind.
The senior players and staff went on camp to the Central Coast a week or so ago, didn't they?
The only guys I know that went to Bali were Mason and Houston a week or two ago.
Naiqama, Rochow, Tetevano are all going this week.
Hardly senior players, I don't think Gidley has gone anywhere but could be wrong.
I dunno if this is even Tinkler news, but the tax bill that Tew was going off about has been paid.
Knights tax debt settled
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/420122/knights-tax-debt-settled/?cs=306
Knights tax debt settled
http://www.theherald.com.au/story/420122/knights-tax-debt-settled/?cs=306
Nathan Tinkler prepared to quit racing, will stick by Newcastle Knights and Jets
Ray Thomas
The Daily Telegraph
November 01, 2012 12:00AM
MULTI-millionaire owner Nathan Tinkler remains committed to the Newcastle Knights and Jets football clubs - but he is prepared to walk away from his thoroughbred racing and breeding empire for the right price.
The former electrician turned mining magnate, businessman and thoroughbred owner-breeder contacted The Daily Telegraph yesterday to set the record straight on a number of issues, both on and off the racetrack.
In an open and frank interview, Tinkler confirmed he will continue to provide financial support to both Newcastle footy clubs, will further rationalise his racing interests, and took a swipe at the media.
In a surprising admission, Tinkler said his Patinack Farm racing and breeding operation is "not as enjoyable as it once was".
"I love my racing but I'm living overseas now and I'm not as hands-on as I'd like to be," Tinkler said.
"There is no one in the horse industry that wants to speak positive about anyone.
"The racing industry is a self-promoter's dream and I am not a self-promoter.
"If there was one thing that I could change about myself, that would be to like reading about myself and seeing myself in the papers but I just don't."
Tinkler confirmed plans to further close down his Hawkesbury training base, reduce his Melbourne stable capacity from 50 horse to 25, and concentrate his racing interests with stables at Randwick in Sydney and Canungra, near Brisbane.
"In Melbourne, the focus will be on two- and three-year-olds."
Tinkler then admitted that if someone offered him the right price for his thoroughbred empire, he would consider selling it all - just like Bob Ingham did in 2008 when Darley paid a reported $700 million to buy his entire racing and breeding operation.
"I'd consider selling, and I'd also very much consider a partner," he explained. "In particular, a Chinese partner because the racing industry worldwide needs China to embrace the racing industry.
"If it does, then racing would become part of the world's biggest economy and that would be good for the sport globally."
There were reports Tinkler was trying to off-load his racing and breeding interests to an oil-rich Arab sheik earlier this year. Tinkler was reluctant to talk about the details but had a slightly different take on the issue yesterday.
"I wouldn't sell it to him," he said. "I don't think Australian racing needs more sheiks. Australian racing needs characters and people they can relate to, not more faceless foreign owners."
When I asked him about his football interests and whether he wanted to sell his stake in NRL's Newcastle Knights and the A-League's Newcastle Jets, Tinkler said he was in both clubs for the long haul.
"That is a completely different thing," he said.
"Both clubs are very close to my heart, they are community-based, and I don't need to have a lot to do with the clubs. There are no financial issues with either club, they are safe and secure, they are all fine.
"Racehorses take management, man-hours, lots of people, all those sort of things.
"Fortunately, there is no manes on most of those footy players so they can think and speak for themselves.
"The footy clubs are a much easier business to manage - horses is just massive, the money is massive, everything is just too hard."
Tinkler's financial woes seem to make the business pages almost on a daily basis but the man himself once again has a different take on the issue - and had the media in his cross-hairs.
"There has definitely, absolutely, been a spirited media campaign to get me," Tinkler said. "It does **** me off but I just brush it way, I've got broad shoulders.
"But some sections of the media treat me like I was Christopher Skase, breathing through a mask, sitting in a wheelchair in Majorca.
"I never run from anybody, everyone always gets paid.
"I would say the noisy few have made a lot of people nervous and there is no need to be."
Tinkler sent more than 200 broodmares through a Gold Coast sale ring this week as he went about rationalising his thoroughbred business.
He denied the sell-off was because his thoroughbred racing and breeding empire was bleeding financially.
"Earlier this year, one of my staff told me that I was going to have 1800 horses shortly," Tinkler said.
"I just said: 'Mate, what?'
So, this sale was designed to get the numbers back to 1500 horses.
"I believe a more sustainable level is about 800 to 900 horses. "This is a bad time to be selling but we have so many foals hitting the ground we had to do something.
"We will have a lot of yearlings to sell next year and we will be selling at the tried horse sales, too.
Tinkler pointed out every large racing and breeding operation needed to cull some of their stock each year.
"Darley disposes of horses constantly but we tend to evaluate our business every nine months or so," he said.
"I was happy with the results of the sale and thank the buyers who came."
John Thompson trains exclusively for Tinkler - with the obvious exception of super colt All Too Hard, who is prepared by John Hawkes and his sons, Wayne and Michael,
"I've got to say 'Thommo' is going terrific," Tinkler said. "What can you say about a guy who has delivered me a couple of hundred winners for the last couple of years.
"He puts up with all this '****' in the media but he gets on with it, does his job. He's not just a great trainer, he's a great person and I love him like a brother.
"As for 'Hawkesy', there is two blokes with a short fuse so if it wasn't going to work, it wasn't going to work early.
"But he knows his stuff, he's a great guy and I have no problem with him."
From: http://m.heraldsun.com.au/sport/nrl...knights-and-jets/story-e6frfgbo-1226507841292
Ray Thomas
The Daily Telegraph
November 01, 2012 12:00AM
MULTI-millionaire owner Nathan Tinkler remains committed to the Newcastle Knights and Jets football clubs - but he is prepared to walk away from his thoroughbred racing and breeding empire for the right price.
The former electrician turned mining magnate, businessman and thoroughbred owner-breeder contacted The Daily Telegraph yesterday to set the record straight on a number of issues, both on and off the racetrack.
In an open and frank interview, Tinkler confirmed he will continue to provide financial support to both Newcastle footy clubs, will further rationalise his racing interests, and took a swipe at the media.
In a surprising admission, Tinkler said his Patinack Farm racing and breeding operation is "not as enjoyable as it once was".
"I love my racing but I'm living overseas now and I'm not as hands-on as I'd like to be," Tinkler said.
"There is no one in the horse industry that wants to speak positive about anyone.
"The racing industry is a self-promoter's dream and I am not a self-promoter.
"If there was one thing that I could change about myself, that would be to like reading about myself and seeing myself in the papers but I just don't."
Tinkler confirmed plans to further close down his Hawkesbury training base, reduce his Melbourne stable capacity from 50 horse to 25, and concentrate his racing interests with stables at Randwick in Sydney and Canungra, near Brisbane.
"In Melbourne, the focus will be on two- and three-year-olds."
Tinkler then admitted that if someone offered him the right price for his thoroughbred empire, he would consider selling it all - just like Bob Ingham did in 2008 when Darley paid a reported $700 million to buy his entire racing and breeding operation.
"I'd consider selling, and I'd also very much consider a partner," he explained. "In particular, a Chinese partner because the racing industry worldwide needs China to embrace the racing industry.
"If it does, then racing would become part of the world's biggest economy and that would be good for the sport globally."
There were reports Tinkler was trying to off-load his racing and breeding interests to an oil-rich Arab sheik earlier this year. Tinkler was reluctant to talk about the details but had a slightly different take on the issue yesterday.
"I wouldn't sell it to him," he said. "I don't think Australian racing needs more sheiks. Australian racing needs characters and people they can relate to, not more faceless foreign owners."
When I asked him about his football interests and whether he wanted to sell his stake in NRL's Newcastle Knights and the A-League's Newcastle Jets, Tinkler said he was in both clubs for the long haul.
"That is a completely different thing," he said.
"Both clubs are very close to my heart, they are community-based, and I don't need to have a lot to do with the clubs. There are no financial issues with either club, they are safe and secure, they are all fine.
"Racehorses take management, man-hours, lots of people, all those sort of things.
"Fortunately, there is no manes on most of those footy players so they can think and speak for themselves.
"The footy clubs are a much easier business to manage - horses is just massive, the money is massive, everything is just too hard."
Tinkler's financial woes seem to make the business pages almost on a daily basis but the man himself once again has a different take on the issue - and had the media in his cross-hairs.
"There has definitely, absolutely, been a spirited media campaign to get me," Tinkler said. "It does **** me off but I just brush it way, I've got broad shoulders.
"But some sections of the media treat me like I was Christopher Skase, breathing through a mask, sitting in a wheelchair in Majorca.
"I never run from anybody, everyone always gets paid.
"I would say the noisy few have made a lot of people nervous and there is no need to be."
Tinkler sent more than 200 broodmares through a Gold Coast sale ring this week as he went about rationalising his thoroughbred business.
He denied the sell-off was because his thoroughbred racing and breeding empire was bleeding financially.
"Earlier this year, one of my staff told me that I was going to have 1800 horses shortly," Tinkler said.
"I just said: 'Mate, what?'
So, this sale was designed to get the numbers back to 1500 horses.
"I believe a more sustainable level is about 800 to 900 horses. "This is a bad time to be selling but we have so many foals hitting the ground we had to do something.
"We will have a lot of yearlings to sell next year and we will be selling at the tried horse sales, too.
Tinkler pointed out every large racing and breeding operation needed to cull some of their stock each year.
"Darley disposes of horses constantly but we tend to evaluate our business every nine months or so," he said.
"I was happy with the results of the sale and thank the buyers who came."
John Thompson trains exclusively for Tinkler - with the obvious exception of super colt All Too Hard, who is prepared by John Hawkes and his sons, Wayne and Michael,
"I've got to say 'Thommo' is going terrific," Tinkler said. "What can you say about a guy who has delivered me a couple of hundred winners for the last couple of years.
"He puts up with all this '****' in the media but he gets on with it, does his job. He's not just a great trainer, he's a great person and I love him like a brother.
"As for 'Hawkesy', there is two blokes with a short fuse so if it wasn't going to work, it wasn't going to work early.
"But he knows his stuff, he's a great guy and I have no problem with him."
From: http://m.heraldsun.com.au/sport/nrl...knights-and-jets/story-e6frfgbo-1226507841292
Fungus
Steve Simpson
IT WAS a stunning admission: the moment Nathan Tinkler's public relations campaign to play down his financial troubles was undone by one of his most trusted lieutenants.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/staf...hit-stables-20121105-28u8o.html#ixzz2BMIjvyso
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/staf...hit-stables-20121105-28u8o.html#ixzz2BMIjvyso
It's like a soap opera. We all want to believe Tinkler because he bailed the Knights out but surely everyone making these comments aren't lying all of the time. If none of the comments were based on fact surely Tinkler would be looking at a defamation suit somewhere along the line. If what Thompson said wasn't true given Tinklers reputation for sacking people do you think he'd still be training ? Tinkler's baggage ie the rumors had a very negative effect on our season starting with the pathetic effort against Manly and we can forget about winning comps until he gets the off field rubbish sorted.
Joshhh
Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
Nathan Tinkler close to deal over Hunter Stadium
By Barry Toohey
Newcastle Knights NRL coach Wayne Bennett (L) with Hunter Sports Group owner Nathan Tinkler (R) at Hunter Stadium.
NATHAN Tinkler's Hunter Sports Group and the state government are believed to be close to signing a new licence agreement that will secure the future of the Newcastle Knights and the Newcastle Jets at Hunter Stadium for the next decade.
Negotiations over the use of the stadium have dragged on for more than 12 months, with the government and Tinkler playing hardball to get a deal over the line that is agreeable to both parties.
It is understood that agreement could be finalised within the next few weeks.
Multi-millionaire Tinkler has come under fire in recent months for not meeting rent deadlines for the use of the stadium by the Knights league side and the Jets soccer team.
A $500,000 payment was due at the end of last month but the deadline was not met. It is understood a $300,000 payment was made the following day.
But HSG spokesman Richard Fisk claimed yesterday payments had been deliberately held back in a bid to fast-track negotiations.
"It has been a frustrating eight months for all concerned but we are getting very close to finalising a deal," Fisk said.
"It has dragged on and the reason we have held back some rent payments was to give us some bargaining power in bringing the negotiations to a conclusion.
"Hopefully, we can now get it done."
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...r-hunter-stadium/story-e6frexnr-1226511824883
By Barry Toohey
Newcastle Knights NRL coach Wayne Bennett (L) with Hunter Sports Group owner Nathan Tinkler (R) at Hunter Stadium.
NATHAN Tinkler's Hunter Sports Group and the state government are believed to be close to signing a new licence agreement that will secure the future of the Newcastle Knights and the Newcastle Jets at Hunter Stadium for the next decade.
Negotiations over the use of the stadium have dragged on for more than 12 months, with the government and Tinkler playing hardball to get a deal over the line that is agreeable to both parties.
It is understood that agreement could be finalised within the next few weeks.
Multi-millionaire Tinkler has come under fire in recent months for not meeting rent deadlines for the use of the stadium by the Knights league side and the Jets soccer team.
A $500,000 payment was due at the end of last month but the deadline was not met. It is understood a $300,000 payment was made the following day.
But HSG spokesman Richard Fisk claimed yesterday payments had been deliberately held back in a bid to fast-track negotiations.
"It has been a frustrating eight months for all concerned but we are getting very close to finalising a deal," Fisk said.
"It has dragged on and the reason we have held back some rent payments was to give us some bargaining power in bringing the negotiations to a conclusion.
"Hopefully, we can now get it done."
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...r-hunter-stadium/story-e6frexnr-1226511824883
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Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
See a huge billion dollar deal done yesterday between Whitehaven and a leading bank so hopefully this will ease things a bit for Tinks.
Tasgirl
Tasgirl
Billy
Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
http://www.smh.com.au/business/nathan-tinklers-empire-falls-apart-20121120-29no5.html
Sydney Herald is calling Tinks dead in the water.
Not sure it's true.
Sydney Herald is calling Tinks dead in the water.
Not sure it's true.