Except for one game, Mann has been good for us, and we later learnt that he had a pretty serious injury and played through the pain in the one game he looked bad. He is only 25 and has nearly 100 firstgrade games, and from what I can see, he is getting better every year. He'll never play SOO or anything, but he's a decent firstgrader with a lot of years in front of him still and a lot of experience behind him. Good squad member. I'm not sure he'd be in our top 17 if all were fit and in peak form, but since that will never happen, he'll probably find a spot in the 17 whenever he is fit.