Ex-Knights Watch

Dogs are so much better than cats. Dogs are loyal and affectionate for life. Cats are very overrated.
 
Cats are just little mini tigers/panthers. They're crazy but they're just out here existing like any animal, being their wild self. When you gain the trust of a cat and it wants to be around you and cuddle, that's a special thing. Dogs are great, everyone loves dogs, but they are kind of specifically designed to love you. That's thousands of years of domestication for you. Different things for different people, some people like the constant love and attention of a dog, like having a little kid, and some people just want a chill housemate to sit on the couch with.
 
There was a very hard to listen to interview with Tony Butterfield and a uni professor about cte on Talkin' Sport on 2hd yesterday afternoon. I missed the first couple of minutes, but Butts spoke openly about the fact that Robbie O has regularly contemplated suicide, Marc Glanville was recently hospitalised after flying in to an uncontrollable rage and Glen Miller is struggling big time with his memory. He only just touched on James McManus as well.

The uni representative said she had conducted a trial back in 2018 which had picked up some harrowing trends, but nothing had come of it from an nrl point of view. She actually said she had to turn 6 ex league players away from the trial because they either couldn't fill out the paperwork or complete the initial cognitive test. She said she is a massive fan of the game but is disappointed by the nrls lack of support for struggling players. Butts chipped in with a horrible story about an nrl representive contacting Robbie O and asking if he would donate his brain for study once he'd passed and Robbie answering that he would rather have help now. Graeme Hughes himself (host) said he had been told he had issues along the cte line.

I guess we all know we are going to hear a lot more about this moving forward, it was pretty confronting having it hit this close to home yesterday. I heard it live, not sure if Talkin' Sport do poddys.
 
When I started working in mental health in the 1970s there was ward after ward filled with ex boxers who had scrambled their brains in the 1930s or 1940s when there were practically no rules around concussion and they had to fight every week to feed their families during the depression.
Boxing was a massive sport in those days.
They were a nightmare to look after. They'd start throwing punches at the drop of a hat and they all had massive knuckles from punching bags for hours as young men, and they knew how to throw punches.
Sadly, the only way to manage them then, and probably now, was to medicate them so much they couldn't be dangerous to each other and the staff who had to manage them.
Football doesn't cause as much damage as old time boxing, or even modern boxing I suspect, but eventually I think contact sports that cause brain damage are not going to be around.
 
Billy said:
When I started working in mental health in the 1970s there was ward after ward filled with ex boxers who had scrambled their brains in the 1930s or 1940s when there were practically no rules around concussion and they had to fight every week to feed their families during the depression.
Boxing was a massive sport in those days.
They were a nightmare to look after. They'd start throwing punches at the drop of a hat and they all had massive knuckles from punching bags for hours as young men, and they knew how to throw punches.
Sadly, the only way to manage them then, and probably now, was to medicate them so much they couldn't be dangerous to each other and the staff who had to manage them.
Football doesn't cause as much damage as old time boxing, or even modern boxing I suspect, but eventually I think contact sports that cause brain damage are not going to be around.
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That's the worry for me, they have actually known about this for a long, long time and are only just catching up. I think there is a way forward for contact sports, but they have some work to do to get there.
 
Area51 said:
what's the way forward? The only way I can envisage is no contact at all.
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What's going to stop it? Can't get insurance, right? But we are talking about billion dollar industries, here, Europe and particularly in the states. I'd suggest they will start self insuring the players. When they do that, the protocols around head knocks will be incredibly tight and I'd say the games will be much safer. You'll probably find that contact is limited for the young participants, yes. A player will know going in to a career what the risks are, how they are minimised and what help will be available if they get in to trouble.
 
Sad that Dan Ticehurst didn't get many chances in the Queensland cup and has now returned to Maitland for the rest of the season.
 
Owey said:
There was a very hard to listen to interview with Tony Butterfield and a uni professor about cte on Talkin' Sport on 2hd yesterday afternoon. I missed the first couple of minutes, but Butts spoke openly about the fact that Robbie O has regularly contemplated suicide, Marc Glanville was recently hospitalised after flying in to an uncontrollable rage and Glen Miller is struggling big time with his memory. He only just touched on James McManus as well.

The uni representative said she had conducted a trial back in 2018 which had picked up some harrowing trends, but nothing had come of it from an nrl point of view. She actually said she had to turn 6 ex league players away from the trial because they either couldn't fill out the paperwork or complete the initial cognitive test. She said she is a massive fan of the game but is disappointed by the nrls lack of support for struggling players. Butts chipped in with a horrible story about an nrl representive contacting Robbie O and asking if he would donate his brain for study once he'd passed and Robbie answering that he would rather have help now. Graeme Hughes himself (host) said he had been told he had issues along the cte line.

I guess we all know we are going to hear a lot more about this moving forward, it was pretty confronting having it hit this close to home yesterday. I heard it live, not sure if Talkin' Sport do poddys.
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Here’s the article some of that info came from, you might be lucky and get in without a paywall, I did the first time I looked at it: https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sp...ws-story/e031601ea0baa43d6d8c775932940d26?amp

Also on Toohey’s podcast when he had Gary Wurth on a few weeks ago he mentioned he’d seen Glenn Miller and he was pretty much just standing there not talking, so sounds like he’s in a really bad way. It’s absolutely tragic and it sounds like the NRL research is a joke.

These players are from the 80s and 90s as well, when players were a lot smaller and impacts not as big. How are players from today’s game going to end up?
 
In flegg yesterday last placed Canberra had a good win over 3rd placed and title favourites Penrith. Their new halfback, Mitch Henderson. went OK.
 
After 1 game of Flegg for the Raiders, Mitch Henderson is named at 7 in reserve grade this week.

Ethan Ferguson scored a try in every Flegg game he played for Souths. Last week they put him in reserve grade and he went almost as badly as he did in his 1 game of reserve grade for us. He's still an SG Ball aged player, but doesn't seem to like not being the big dog on the field.
 
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