If Ryles dumped Brown completely, you would get the stories about Ryles banishing Brown for signing elsewhere and is that the right call with Eels form etc.
Some of the expectations on him were pretty over the top ... he's not a first grader yet, but are any hookers at 20? Someone will probably come up with one, but very few are. No need to write him off yet. We've made that mistake with players too many times in the past.Matt Arthur is 20. He is years away from being the finished product.
So you're pretty much writing off a 20 year old hooker (yes still eligible for flegg) saying he's falling short despite him only playing 5 nrl games which were all off the bench, 2 for a wooden spoon side (so behind a very poor pack) and 3 behind parra who came 15th that year?? I think anyone with this negative opinion needs to calm down, or we can let him go like we do with people that age and see him blossom elsewhere if we aren't willing to give him a shot (for example Starling, Hoskins, Talty, Sasagi, Meaney, Keeley, Donoghoe... can nearly add Saulo, To'a, Levi too)Arthur looks good in NSW Cup. But FG he seems to fall very short in many areas of competition. I'm genuinely worried that he won't ever make that transition, despite his age, which granted is a huge factor
him being open and honest with brown still doesn't change the fact he refused to play his best 6 option and one of his best attacker nearly all season and they just missed out on finals... might, and yes I said might be good for them long term but this season it definitely wasn'tvery brief snippet on Backstage with Ryles about Brown.
Ryles mentioned he was “open and honest” about 5 too many times for my liking. But didn’t have a bad word to say about Brown.
Essentially said in June, approaching deadline it became evident he had a chance to leave, and Ryles was “open and honest” about the uncertainty around his playing time. brown apparently said all good, he would see out the year and go wherever was best for the team.
Approaching the end, asked if he could play the last game at 6, and Ryles agreed (they planned for Joash to get surgery in the last round , but his surgery was cancelled so he ended up being available).
And playing him out of positionhim being open and honest with brown still doesn't change the fact he refused to play his best 6 option and one of his best attacker nearly all season and they just missed out on finals... might, and yes I said might be good for them long term but this season it definitely wasn't
Just the Kiwis' MVP from that game ... not sure if it's nominated by players or coaching staff though. Crossland got it last year vs Tonga.Is that good?
Yeah I know nobody on here rates him as a first receiver, but there were definitely elements of him doing it on Sunday. The try from his kick before halftime, he really took charge in that moment. But as you mention he did it at times in less dramatic moments, too.Loved watching play his natural game and not be bound by Ryles, he was always looking and scheming, he popped up at first receiver some times and sometimes he went back to second, he toke it on himself to hit a nice banana kick for a try.
Showed hunger when he ran and jumped to grab the ball for a try, his running game and step looked deadly, can’t wait to see him in the Knights colours.
I think he will benefit heavily from an attacking minded coach like Holbrook
It’s no Cogger “the straightener” performance, but it will doIs that good?
I completely forgot we still had Arthur lolMatt Arthur is 20. He is years away from being the finished product.
Im not writing him off, still have hopes for him, just not as confident as I used to be with himSo you're pretty much writing off a 20 year old hooker (yes still eligible for flegg) saying he's falling short despite him only playing 5 nrl games which were all off the bench, 2 for a wooden spoon side (so behind a very poor pack) and 3 behind parra who came 15th that year?? I think anyone with this negative opinion needs to calm down, or we can let him go like we do with people that age and see him blossom elsewhere if we aren't willing to give him a shot (for example Starling, Hoskins, Talty, Sasagi, Meaney, Keeley, Donoghoe... can nearly add Saulo, To'a, Levi too)
You said you think he’ll get released at the end of 2026?Im not writing him off, still have hopes for him, just not as confident as I used to be with him
Yea I think its something that may happen if he doesnt show immediate improvement, not because i think that's necessarily fair but mostly because we're short on 9s and need to him to be able to play FG next season and if he looks like hes 'years away from getting up to speed' i can see POS bringing someone else inYou said you think he’ll get released at the end of 2026?