2023 Recruitment & Retention Thread


Now that’s a try saver, what a ****ing legend


Edit : Nevermind the link doesn’t work it’s his heroic try saving tackle from 2001 gf
It works.
 
It was working for me before I posted it then wouldn’t work when I clicked on the link, but thankfully you can all reminisce on one of the greatest to grace the blue and red.
 
For my money his potential impresses me more than the on field product so far, there have been games where he’s struggled with his yardage game and in the wrestle. But that’s on the coaching staff as well, IMO he should be the man running in tandem with our other forwards and threatening little tip ons and offloads whether the ball is passed or not, rather than giving him the ball for our one out hit ups where he gets gang tackled and clattered. Hopefully with the addition of Adam Elliott, who has a huge work rate and motor and is a guy who’s always around the ball like you want your mobile middle forwards to be, he can learn to elevate his game from a teammate at least.
 
Didnt know where to post this, but thought it was worthwhile.
Been listening to the Howie games podcast & his interview with Alex Rance recently. Obviously a different code but one thing he spoke about got me thinking about our up and down seasons over the last three years.
During the 13-16 seasons Richmond were up & down with the same key squad/coaching staff. 2015 they make the finals but lose in an elimination final. 2016 was a disaster, they end up 14th. One thing that stuck with me was Rance saying how fans & media were asking Cotchin to step down as captain, and the coach to be sacked. On the flip side, the players & coaches all thought they "had something good to work with, but didnt know what they could do with it."
Instead of another player taking over as captain, or the coach sacking his staff or stepping down, they stuck to what they knew with all the players buying in & then won 3 out of 4 GFs.

Not saying we're going on to be a dynasty, but we obviously don't know what goes on inside the 'four walls' & just speculate.
Potentially, we've seen what the players know they've got in those wins at the start of the year, but they're not quite sure how to do it consistently as a group.
I'd say AOB has 12 months left if the performances continue, but i also think he has enough experience in successful organisations to be the person to go against whatever internal problems the club has. Hopefully Parr helps also!

Would recommend the podcast if my summary is sub-par, Part B is what I'm referring to.
 
Unsigned players for 2023, Barnett, Lee, Milford, Momoisea, Sue and Hoy - Gone
Crosslands, Lucas, Musgrove and Saulo - ????
Crosslands might get a 1yr offer if can’t find a half back
Lucas should get an offer, young and showed potential
Musgrove will likely be going, big boy but shown little
Saulo will also likely be gone, new fwd signings and Croker, Thompson and Talty showing improvements
 
Tigers made a decision to play it safe in the last 15, running on the 5th in the attacking 20 and making them ruck it out from their own try line, rather than go for a drop out and risk a 7 tackle set.

100% chance Brooks kicks it dead during that period, possibly more than once, and doesn’t get them any drop outs.
 
Madden’s chance to prove he deserves a shot somewhere as a starting halfback. It’ll be a lot harder without Hastings nursing him & Doueihi through the game.
 
If Madden wants a starting spot he needs to come here, Penrith have plenty backups for Cleary.
Probably using Penrith to build price.
If he does go to Penrith then we should be looking at some of those backups
 
Madden still hasn't had a chance to show his best attribute.
Even yesterday, he only got limited chances to call the shots.
In under 18s for us, he won player of the year for the Ball comp and spent every minute of every game on the field and pretty much pulled the strings for every play.
I don't think Madden is who we need because we need an experienced playmaker, not a rookie, but if we end up with him, we should back him to run the team and call all the plays, because that's his strength.
 
Calling all the plays in error-riddled, slow-paced under 18’s games is a very different proposition to doing it in the modern NRL though. And being the junior playmaker doesn’t mean you don’t have any organisational responsibilities - focusing on a particular segment of the field, organising your option runners away from the ball while the main playmaker thinks more about the game as a whole, and calling for it when you see something on, that’s a common way that you see young halves be built up. Cleary played that sort of role with Maloney early in his career, Dearden is also a more naturally gifted 7 than Madden who showed potential as the main organiser at Brisbane but is really flourishing as a second fiddle playing mostly on the left side, etc. I don’t think I agree that you put everything on his shoulders from day dot if we picked him up, that’s setting him up to fail.
 
Calling all the plays in error-riddled, slow-paced under 18’s games is a very different proposition to doing it in the modern NRL though. And being the junior playmaker doesn’t mean you don’t have any organisational responsibilities - focusing on a particular segment of the field, organising your option runners away from the ball while the main playmaker thinks more about the game as a whole, and calling for it when you see something on, that’s a common way that you see young halves be built up. Cleary played that sort of role with Maloney early in his career, Dearden is also a more naturally gifted 7 than Madden who showed potential as the main organiser at Brisbane but is really flourishing as a second fiddle playing mostly on the left side, etc. I don’t think I agree that you put everything on his shoulders from day dot if we picked him up, that’s setting him up to fail.
We need an organiser.
I'd prefer an experienced one.
If all we can get is Madden - back him to do the job.
He's a born organiser - just not an experienced one.
 
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