2023 Recruitment & Retention Thread

Joshhh said:
I feel like we've been saying this about the club for over a decade. It's not a bad proposition for the right coach. But for whatever cultural reason, everyone that gets involved goes backwards, players and coaches, year after year after year. We've definitely reached the title of a fully fledged career killing club now. At this point, I've become so cynical that I will only believe we can be successful when I see it with my own eyes.
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what about dom young?
 
sherpa said:
Isn't that the point though, why can't the club get the best out of players. Why do they have to go elsewhere to show their true potential?
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Sorta, but Kiraz was playing reggies under Ryan who did a pretty good job with a very young squad and most other backs were doing better than him in the same environment.

Sometimes a club just isn't the right fit for a player, if wasn't able to outperform a bloke like Brayden Musgrove while he was at the club that's just as much a poor reflection on him. Seems like he headed home, found the right motivation and clicked with their systems to bring out the best in him.
 
sherpa said:
It's scary how a lot of players seem to play way better when they a not playing for the Knights. Kiraz has had a really good world cup as has Milford. Apparently AOB didn't realise how good Kiraz was?
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Kiraz did pretty much nothing at all his previous clubs either, in 4 years went from Dogs,dragons,cowboys, knights then back to dogs

Milford only used us to play to get that contract he was promised by making sure he played otherwise dolphins wouldn’t come through

Main problem is why we can’t keep any of our young halves players with Pezet, Noah Ryan, Noah Griffiths, Kurt Donohoe etc all leaving when we have no halves and they going to teams and stuck behind established players
 
krustykraz said:
It sounds good.
I haven't seen any good results yet.
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Those who can, do; those who can't, teach.

Obviously I don't know what goes on between Joey and prospective students, but he strikes me as the kind of guy who would be like 'just do this, run that line, engage that defender etc' when in reality 99.9% of the playing population just don't see what he sees. I also suspect that this frustrates him, and said students, and leads to disappointment.
 
slotmachine said:
If I was a young half I wouldn't stay at a club that hasn't developed one for about 20 years either
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We have developed them, we have developed plenty of young ones from 14-20 but for some reason they just get to the under 20 age and everybody else buys them as they seemingly aren’t developing their own either
It’s just why aren’t some of them staying?

This year Pezet and Noah Ryan probably would have gotten a start in first grade the way out halves went, so it must be something wrong with the retention team or the halves coaches/pathways are not set up right
 
knights80 said:
We have developed them, we have developed plenty of young ones from 14-20 but for some reason they just get to the under 20 age and everybody else buys them as they seemingly aren’t developing their own either
It’s just why aren’t some of them staying?

This year Pezet and Noah Ryan probably would have gotten a start in first grade the way out halves went, so it must be something wrong with the retention team or the halves coaches/pathways are not set up right
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Who are they? In recent years we brought through Lamb and Cogger and they didn't work out. Beau Henry before that. Clifford another young guy has now failed too. Crossland not far off. Are they all just not up to NRL standard, or are we as a club failing them. Neither option is a good reflection on the club. We tried Jaelen Feeney who should have never been in the NRL in the first place, we tried Connor Watson who was obviously never a half, we just promised him that position to get him here. Everyone else has just been older imports. The most successful guys we have developed recently are Mullo and Tyrone Roberts, which is a sad state of affairs considering one never found consistency and the other was consistent, but consistently average.
 
Joshhh said:
Who are they? In recent years we brought through Lamb and Cogger and they didn't work out. Beau Henry before that. Clifford another young guy has now failed too. Crossland not far off. Are they all just not up to NRL standard, or are we as a club failing them. Neither option is a good reflection on the club. We tried Jaelen Feeney who should have never been in the NRL in the first place, we tried Connor Watson who was obviously never a half, we just promised him that position to get him here. Everyone else has just been older imports. The most successful guys we have developed recently are Mullo and Tyrone Roberts, which is a sad state of affairs considering one never found consistency and the other was consistent, but consistently average.
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Don't give up on Crossland just yet... he improved a bit this year. He has a way to go, but he still has potential.
 
Joshhh said:
Who are they? In recent years we brought through Lamb and Cogger and they didn't work out. Beau Henry before that. Clifford another young guy has now failed too. Crossland not far off. Are they all just not up to NRL standard, or are we as a club failing them. Neither option is a good reflection on the club. We tried Jaelen Feeney who should have never been in the NRL in the first place, we tried Connor Watson who was obviously never a half, we just promised him that position to get him here. Everyone else has just been older imports. The most successful guys we have developed recently are Mullo and Tyrone Roberts, which is a sad state of affairs considering one never found consistency and the other was consistent, but consistently average.
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Did Mullo debut at 16 or am tripping? Imagine if he'd played for the Storm. Would've been an immortal
 
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