2007/2008 Summer of Cricket Discussion

Yeah there was this huge thing about being called a monkey is raciest but I just don't see it, and my sister told me about Monkeys like u said henno, but I can't see how calling someone that is about there race, even if it is calling them low. and to an Aussie thats nothing! I think the whole thing is a bit silly really
 
Well, they were saying on the news yesterday that, because Symonds is dark skinned, it has something to do with race or something. But still, its nothing if you ask me.

the series still remains suspended, and india have stated that if the 3 match ban isnt overturned, they will be heading back home.


Ponting must accept perceptions
By Mike Coward
January 08, 2008

INDIA captain Anil Kumble's denunciation of the way Australia plays cricket will be widely supported throughout the international cricket community.

By so publicly questioning the manner in which Australia play, he is expressing a view held by many people in this country and many more beyond the Indian diaspora.

A calm, dignified man who acceded to the leadership just seven weeks ago, Kumble was distraught after India's loss to Australia in the second Test match which ended at the Sydney Cricket Ground on Sunday.

It was not, however, the 122-run defeat that prompted him to conclude a tumultuous press conference by saying: "Only one team is playing in the spirit of the game."
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Australia lose public support
By Iain Payten
January 08, 2008

FORMER Australia coach John Buchanan and former team greats believe the side's "Spirit of Cricket" vows are still followed despite Indian accusations of poor sportsmanship in the controversial second Test.

But the controversy issues a further body blow to the image of the aggressive Australian side, and much of the public appears to be on the side of the tourists.

In the wake of Anil Kumble's post-Test suggestion that Ricky Ponting's men had not played "in the spirit of the game", talkback radio and internet feedback delivered a similar backlash to the Aussie cricketers by largely agreeing with the Indian skipper.

In a poll conducted on foxsports.com.au posing the question: "Has Australia's behaviour in the current Test series changed the way you will support the team?", 56 per cent of more than 2500 respondents answered "Yes, I will no longer support this side".

So while hard-fought Test cricket remains popular in Australia - with Channel 9 securing an "Ashes-like" peak of 2.6million viewers on Sunday - the hard-line tactics of Ponting's Australia appear to be unpopular.

Talkback airwaves across the country also heard opposition to a win-at-all-costs mentality.
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INDIA dramatically held world cricket to ransom last night after threatening to abandon its multi-million dollar tour of Australia.

Cricket's most powerful national governing body revealed it had suspended the trip and threatened to abort it unless Harbhajan Singh's three-match suspension for racial abuse was overturned.

Harbhajan (pictured) was found guilty of labelling Australian all-rounder Andrew Symonds a "big monkey" in Sunday night's seven-hour hearing after the second Test finished at the SCG.

The tourists are seething over match referee Mike Procter's decision and issued a blunt statement declaring they would not leave Sydney until Harbhajan's appeal was heard.

India was last night awaiting a response from the International Cricket Council and hopes for a hearing later this week.

If the appeal is not successful, the tourists have not ruled out going home with the Tests in Perth and Adelaide still to go.
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I reckon Gilchrist should be the Australian captain, he is a guy that plays in the correct spirit.

I thought it was pretty pathetic that Symonds was virtually boasting about not being given out when he nicked it earlier in the test ... if everybody walked like Gilchrist does, then you would never get given out caught behind when you weren't out!
 
Seriously James, I will come down to Wellington and hit you myself if you crap on Ponting like that again.

I had a heated argument with my boss today. Hes very anti Aussie and their tactics. India are just being like idiots, pulling out of a tour for something like this is against the spirit of the game. Theyre just big hypocrits! And I hate them, I dont care what the Aussies did or didnt do!
 
India should harden up. Its so annoying how all the asian test nations mess with world cricket. First it was Sri Lanka with Murlis action being accepted then pakistan with the ball tampering now this. Pisses me off frankly.

Mess with one Asian nation and you get the whole package
 
jamesgould said:
I reckon Gilchrist should be the Australian captain, he is a guy that plays in the correct spirit.

I thought it was pretty pathetic that Symonds was virtually boasting about not being given out when he nicked it earlier in the test ... if everybody walked like Gilchrist does, then you would never get given out caught behind when you weren't out!
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I agree, Symonds over did the talking and that was a main reason the Indians got upset.
 
Bucknor stood down

UMPIRE Steve Bucknor will not stand in the third cricket Test between Australia and India in Perth, International Cricket Council (ICC) chief executive Malcolm Speed said today.

Bucknor will be replaced by New Zealand's Billy Bowden. India had demanded Bucknor be stood down from the Test following their anger towards his performance in the second Test in Sydney.

Umpiring was one issue India were unhappy with following that match, along with the three-Test suspension imposed on spinner Harbhajan Singh.

Speed acknowledged some people would be unhappy given India had requested Bucknor be stood down.

"I can understand that people will take that view,'' he said. "It is an extraordinary set of circumstances and we want to take some of the tension out of the situation.''

Harbhajan was yesterday suspended for three Tests after he was found guilty of racially abusing Australia's Andrew Symonds in Sydney by calling him a "monkey''.

The Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) has suspended its tour pending the outcome of Harbhajan's appeal hearing.

But Speed could not say when that hearing would be held. He was hopeful it would be held before the next Test, starting on January 16.

If the hearing was not held before then, he said, Harbhajan would be eligible to play in Perth. Speed was hopeful India's tour would continue, but could not guarantee that.

Speed said the ICC needed to take a "pragmatic view'' towards the issue, and needed to be "flexible'' to resolve the crisis.

He was confident Bucknor, 61, would umpire again at Test level. Speed said match referee Ranjan Madugalle, the former Sri Lankan captain, would also be appointed as a mediator between the Australian and Indian sides.

Meanwhile, a racism hearing against Australian spinner Brad Hogg will also go ahead, after the Indians alleged he called captain Anil Kumble a "bastard'' in Sydney. Hogg's hearing will be heard some time before the third Test by match referee Mike Procter.

Speed said Procter and an ICC-appointed code of conduct commissioner would re-hear the Harbhajan case, with the witnesses to be again called.
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Tour saved as chiefs cave in

INDIA'S troubled cricket tour was back on schedule last night following a day of tense negotiations between the world cricket's governing body and Indian officials.

The deal was brokered after the International Cricket Council bowed to Indian demands that controversial umpire Steve Bucknor be sacked from next week's third Test in Perth and cleared the way for suspended spinner Harbhajan Singh to play in the Test.

India confirmed today the tour would continue.

ICC chief executive Malcolm Speed revealed yesterday that a senior judge from one of 16 countries would be appointed as soon as possible to hear Harbhajan's appeal against a racism conviction.

With no date set for the appeal, the move frees up Harbhajan to play in the third test on January 16. Australian bowler Brad Hogg will face a code of conduct charge before the Perth test, Mr Speed said. The Indians have alleged Hogg called captain Anil Kumble "a bastard".

Mr Speed also said he had summoned a peacemaker - chief referee Ranjan Madugalle, of Sri Lanka - to counsel team captains Ricky Ponting and Anil Kumble.
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Symonds tells his side of the story

Cricinfo staff

January 7, 2008



Andrew Symonds says there was no bad blood between Australia and India until he and Harbhajan Singh had an on-field altercation © Getty Images


Andrew Symonds says he was surprised by the on-field incident that led to Harbhajan Singh being suspended for three Tests because there had been "no bad blood" in the series before that moment. The match referee Mike Procter found Harbhajan guilty of making a racist comment directed at Symonds while Harbhajan was batting in the Sydney Test, although India can appeal the decision.

"This is what happened before our confrontation," Symonds said in the Herald Sun. "Brett Lee had just sent down a delivery and Harbhajan took off down the wicket. When he was returning to his crease, he decided to hit Brett on the backside. I have no idea why he did it.

"I was standing nearby and when I saw what happened, I thought, 'Hold on, that's not on'. I'm a firm believer in sticking up for your team-mate so I stepped in and had a bit of a crack at Harbhajan, telling him exactly what I thought of his antics. He then had a shot back, which brings us to the situation we're facing."

Whether that situation was handled in the best way possible remains a subject of debate. The umpires spoke to Harbhajan on the field - Mark Benson even covered his mouth to avoid lip-reading television viewers - and reported him to Procter after they received a complaint from Australia's captain Ricky Ponting.

"I must admit the incident was pretty surprising, because relations between the two sides so far have been very good," Symonds said. "It's been a series played in really good spirit. There's been no sledging or bad blood."

There was definitely animosity between the teams after the Harbhajan-Symonds incident, however, with Australia's strong appealing on the final day drawing the ire of India's captain Anil Kumble. He questioned whether Australia were playing within the spirit of the game, while Ponting strongly defended his team's integrity.

Adam Gilchrist has responded to Kumble's allegation with caution. "I didn't see his comments," Gilchrist told CNN IBN. "I would like to think that's not quite right. We haven't gone outside any boundaries. I don't know what Kumble was exactly referring to."

Talking about his appeal against Dravid, Gilchrist said: "There are times when you don't know. So, you ask the question. Every player has right to ask the umpire. I will say I don't appeal if I don't think they are out. If I am not sure, I will ask the umpire and I'll accept his decision."

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Suspect much?
 
Henno said:
India should harden up. Its so annoying how all the asian test nations mess with world cricket. First it was Sri Lanka with Murlis action being accepted then pakistan with the ball tampering now this. Pisses me off frankly.

Mess with one Asian nation and you get the whole package
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EXACTLY!
 
JUST when it seemed things were improving for the Indian cricket team, their bus has been involved in what's being reported as a "hit and run".

Radio station 2GB this morning reports that the Indian team bus has clipped a parked Mercedes Benz as it was leaving the Radisson Hotel in Sydney but failed to stop.

The station has also put to air a caller who says they saw the incident, which is believed to have occurred between 10.30 and 11am.

However, the Indian team's management is denying the report.

When The Daily Telegraph contacted the Indian team's media manager, Dr M.V. Sridhar, he said: "I am on the bus. We didn't hit anything."
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haha :lol:

Just glad its all over now, they left sydney for canberra to play their tour match. The 3rd test is going to be a cracker, esp. after whats happened.
 
I tell you what would be funny, if someone like Dravid got caught for matchfixing the 3rd test hahahhahahah omg lmao i won't stop laughing
 
INDIAN captain Anil Kumble has revealed Ricky Ponting refused his request for dressing room peace talks over the Harbhajan Singh race row.

This despite Kumble's fears of seismic ramifications for India's tour and world cricket if it went public.

Breaking his silence after arriving in Canberra last night, Kumble said he asked Ponting to deal with him privately over the alleged "monkey" taunt from Harbhajan to Andrew Symonds at the SCG and not through the ICC, but the Aussie skipper declined.

The Indian captain said he felt - and was unfortunately proven right - that a public allegation of racism toward one of his players would rock the foundations of cricket and threaten the tour.

"'Having played cricket for this long, such an allegation would definitely spiral into what it has now," Kumble said. "I anticipated that, and I sensed that it would spiral into a longer issue.

"I did make a request when that incident happened on that particular day to Ricky Ponting, that the matter could be sorted out between us. But it went up to the match referee. His response was there had already been a report."

Once Ponting confirmed his complaint to the umpires, the matter was instantly referred to the ICC match referee.
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Ricky Ponting's parents threatened

IT seemed the perfect Tuesday morning for Ricky Ponting - until the call came to tell him the cricket world was burning and a growing mob was baying for him to be sacked as Australian Test captain.

Ponting was on the golf course for a charity game. The weather was sparkling, as was his form.

Then his wife Rianna rang to tell him that chaos reigned.

"Have you seen the papers?" she asked. Ponting hadn't. "Is everything OK with your job?"

There were calls for Ponting to be dismissed along with several other leading members of the team. India's cricket tour of Australia was in jeopardy. Effigies of Ponting had been burned in the streets of the sub-continent.

"She was a bit worried and a bit shaken," Ponting said yesterday. "I said 'Everything will be OK'."

Gallery special: Punter through on-field triumph and off-field drama.

Ponting spoke soon after with Cricket Australia chief executive Sutherland and was told he had the full support of the Australian governing body.

However, as the fallout from one of the biggest crises in international cricket continued yesterday - even Ponting's parents have been forced to change their home telephone number after receiving abusive and threatening calls - the Australian skipper conceded there were elements of his side's performance in the second Test "that in hindsight you might do a little differently".

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He pointed to his own actions, saying he had stood too long at the crease after being given out LBW in the first innings.

"There's no doubt I stood there for a second or two too long and I shouldn't have done that," he said.

"It probably didn't help that I was shown throwing my bat when I got back to the rooms.

"Some of the guys mightn't have shaken (Indian skipper Anil) Kumble's hand after the game but we were so wrapped up with the end of the game that they were already off the field.

"We all walked along when it was over and shook their hands."
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ok I hate to say it but i reakon the Indians should now just F$3% off back to their own country. They have done enough damage.

what I want to know that if Kumble wanted to sort it our privately because he saw this happening, why did he appeal the bloody suspension?
Idiots
 
I saw on the news, in India they are burning Australian flags and carrying on. What idiots thats just going way too far..... and threatening Pontings parents, I mean FFS!
 
Those Indians are crazy. They pretty much burn anything or anyone (in the form of stuffed bags :p).

They really need to learn to get on with the game, admit they lost and stop making such a fuss about it.
 
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