2007/2008 Summer of Cricket Discussion

jamesgould said:
Man, India sure got doe over by the umps in that match. Steve Bucknor needs to retire straight away!
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Yea, Umpires ruin games!

But it was one hell of a game, considering the 1st innings of both teams, and to win with 8mins to go. lol it had me jumping around, when the won, although i dont really support one team, all i wanna see is exciting games like this one.
 
Cricket in Crisis

In one of the the biggest controversies in Australian Test cricket since the 1932-33 Bodyline tour, Australia and India have clashed heatedly both on the field and in the press room during the remarkable Second Test at the SCG.

Not since England captain Douglas Jardine ordered his bowlers to aim short pitched deliveries at the heads of Don Bradman's men has there been such a fiery clash, and claims are again flying that only one side is playing within "the spirit of the game".


The impressive Australian victory threatens to be overshadowed amid the sportsmanship row, with Indian spinner Harbhajan Singh banned for racism, and bad umpiring universally condemned.

Indian captain Anil Kumble was visibly upset at the post-match press conference, calling into question the spirit of the entire Australian team.

"Only one team was playing with the spirit of the game, that's all I can say," Kumble said to the applause of the Indian media contingent.

"We'd like to play hard on the field and expect that from Australia as well," Kumble said. "I've played my cricket very sincerely and honestly, that's the approach my team takes, and we expect that from Australia as well."

Indian manager Chetan Chauhan added that they would not have lost if they had received a fair run from the umpires.

"Had some of the decisions, I would say 50 percent of them, were received in our favour, the result would have been different," Chauhan said. "It really affected us. We're not saying this because we have lost the game. It was for everybody to see."

Ricky Ponting's turn in front of the gathered media turned ugly when a member of the Indian press brought into question his honesty in claiming a catch late on the fifth day of the Test.

"There's no way I grounded that ball. If you're actually questioning my integrity in the game, then you shouldn't be standing there," Ponting snapped at the Indian journalist.

The Australian camp had accused champion spinner Singh of racial abuse and following a marathon hearing he became the first and only disciplinary victim of the Test.

Singh was banned for three Test matches for calling Australian all-rounder Andrew Symonds "a monkey" during the fourth day of the match.

"I am satisfied beyond a reasonable doubt that Harbhajan Singh directed that word ['monkey'] at Andrew Symonds and also that he meant it to offend on the basis of Symonds's race or ethnic origin," match referee Mike Procter said in a statement released by the International Cricket Council (ICC).

Former Australian captain Ian Chappell weighed into the debate, blaming the officials for most of the trouble.

"I've always believed that animosity in cricket, whether it be on the field or off the field, is mostly caused by poor officiating, either stupid laws, playing conditions or poor decision making and this just confirms my opinion," Chappell told the Today Show.

"They've got so many sheriffs in the game these days with about four umpires plus the referee, and you're asking the captains of each side to dob the other side in, it's a recipe for disaster, and exactly what has happened now is going to happen."

Chappell went on to single out the performance of umpire Stephen Bucknor.

"The umpiring was poor in this game, it was poor," he said.

"The two really bad decisions, you can't believe them. How can the same umpire [Bucknor] give Andrew Symonds not out when he quite obviously nicked one well wide of anything else, it can only hit the bat, it makes a huge noise … and then the same umpire gives Rahaul Dravid out when his bat is tucked behind his pad and the pad is quite obviously the thing that it's hit."

The India Australia rivalry has become cricket's most fiercely contested and with the players set to play one more Test, starting in Perth on January 16, there could be more trouble.

With chief antagonist Harbhajan Singh likely to play while awaiting the outcome of the appeal process, there'll be no shortage of fire on the field.

It remains to be seen whether calls from India's management to drop both umpires from the final Test are heeded by the ICC.
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I've got nothing but sympathy for India, they were robbed.

And it's pretty rich India getting a player suspended for sledging, with all the stuff Australia have come out with over the years. They are the inventors of it!
 
Couldnt agree more, regardless of who i go fo.. the 2 Umpires need to go!!

I personally dont think calling him a money deserved 3matches, esp. after what went on in India prior to this series.
 
PSSSH Stupid India, they need to get over it.

If they were in Aussies position would they have any sympathy for the opposition? NO

And if they were racially abused would they just let it go? NO

So whats the problem?

As for the match that last hour was awesome!!
 
jamesgould said:
I've got nothing but sympathy for India, they were robbed.

And it's pretty rich India getting a player suspended for sledging, with all the stuff Australia have come out with over the years. They are the inventors of it!
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Theres a difference between sledging and racially abusing someone. There is no place for that kind of crap in sport.
 
Calling someone a monkey is pretty mild, I've heard Australia say much worse stuff than that through the stumpcam mike!

It's a problem when one side loses a match because of the umpires ... Bucknor may have been the best umpire in the world five years ago, but he is well past it now and should retire straight away. And in general they need to allow much more video intervention to ensure the right decisions are made.
 
seabass14 said:
jamesgould said:
I've got nothing but sympathy for India, they were robbed.

And it's pretty rich India getting a player suspended for sledging, with all the stuff Australia have come out with over the years. They are the inventors of it!
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Theres a difference between sledging and racially abusing someone. There is no place for that kind of crap in sport.
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yea i agree with that, ok fair enough 3 games, but not everyone that racially abuses gets suspended.

Im Glad Aus won, but just think the Umpiring killed the game.
 
knight-no-7 said:
yea i agree with that, ok fair enough 3 games, but not everyone that racially abuses gets suspended.

Im Glad Aus won, but just think the Umpiring killed the game.
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I think we're in agreement knight-no-7. :mrgreen:
 
jamesgould said:
knight-no-7 said:
yea i agree with that, ok fair enough 3 games, but not everyone that racially abuses gets suspended.

Im Glad Aus won, but just think the Umpiring killed the game.
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I think we're in agreement knight-no-7. :mrgreen:
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haha, thats a first :lol: Normally we seem to disagree on most things haha.
 
Indians now remaining in Sydney

January 07, 2008

THE Indian cricket team has been instructed to remain in Sydney as speculation mounts that the tour of Australia may be in jeopardy.

The Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) instructed the team to remain at their hotel in Sydney rather than travel to Canberra for a match against an ACT side as scheduled.

"We have been instructed by BCCI to stay in Sydney until we get further instructions," team spokesman Dr M V Sridhar told journalists.

The development followed a morning of confusion as the Indian players sat on their team bus outside the hotel for two hours before returning to their rooms.

The Indians are incensed at the three-match ban handed down to spin bowler Harbhajan Singh after he was found guilty of racially abusing Australia's Andrew Symonds during the explosive second Test in Sydney.

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Cricket
India suspend tour of Australia
BREAKING NEWS | January 07, 2008

THE Indian cricket board (BCCI) has suspended its team's tour of Australia pending the outcome of an appeal for banned spinner Harbhajan Singh.

Harbhajan was suspended on Sunday by the International Cricket Council for three tests after being found guilty of racially abusing Australian all-rounder Andrew Symonds during the second Test in Sydney.

Harbhajan has denied the claims and the BCCI said the tour would be suspended until his appeal had been heard.

“The Board will appeal to the International Cricket Council to review the decision of the Match Referee and suspend its operation till the appeal is disposed of,†the BCCI said in a statement.

“The Indian Board realises the game of cricket is paramount but so too is the honour of the Indian team and for that matter every Indian.

“To vindicate its position, the Board will fight the blatantly false and unfair slur on an Indian player.â€

The Indian team were due to travel to Canberra to prepare for their next tour match but returned to their hotel rooms after sitting on their bus for two hours. Australia lead the four-match series 2-0.

Reuters

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Well that's just stupid from India, they need to accept the decision and get on with it! However wrong the decision may be.
 
They are well in their rights to do it. I wonder how this will turn out. If they call it off, then that would be quite a shock.

India risk fine if tour suspended
January 07, 2008

INDIA risks a $US2 million ($A2.3 million) fine for suspending its cricket tour of Australia.

The Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) today ordered the Indian team to remain in Sydney, rather that travel to Canberra as scheduled, pending the outcome of an appeal against Harbhajan Singh's three-Test suspension for racially abusing Andrew Symonds.

The decision places in jeopardy this week's scheduled two-day match against an ACT XI and could potentially jeopardise the remainder of the tour, including the third and fourth Tests in Perth and Adelaide and the one-day series that follows.

Under ICC rules, member countries are obliged to fulfil their tour contracts except when the security of the players is at risk or the touring team's government orders that the tour should not proceed.

India could also be liable to reimburse Cricket Australia for any losses incurred.
Cricket Australia faced the possibility of a similar fine if it boycotted the tour of Zimbabwe last year.

Eventually the Howard government ordered the team not to go.

Relations between the world's most powerful cricket nations have reached their lowest ebb after Australian retained the Border-Gavaskar Trophy by snatching a last-minute victory in the second Test on Sunday night.

The Indian players and management were incensed by the poor standard of umpiring, most of which favoured the home team, and Indian captain Anil Kumble revived echoes of the Bodyline controversy when he accused the Australians of not playing in the spirit of the game.

The BCCI issued an indignant statement deploring the slur cast on Harbhajan and the Indian nation.

"Unfair allegation of racism against our Indian player is wholly unacceptable," said BCCI president Sharad Pawar, who is also a senior government minister.

"The game of cricket is paramount but so too is the honour of India's cricket team and every Indian.

"The BCCI is committed to protect the country's fair name. India's national commitment is against racism. Our national struggle is based on values which negate racism.

"BCCI will fight this false and unfair slur cast on our player."



AAP
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jamesgould said:
Calling someone a monkey is pretty mild, I've heard Australia say much worse stuff than that through the stumpcam mike!

It's a problem when one side loses a match because of the umpires ... Bucknor may have been the best umpire in the world five years ago, but he is well past it now and should retire straight away. And in general they need to allow much more video intervention to ensure the right decisions are made.
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In India monkeys are very low on the scale of things, it has a completely different meaning as they are seen as dirty creatures.

yeh Bucknor screwed up bigtime, the crowd pressure didnt help though
 
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