Who should coach the Knights in 2010?

Who should be head coach for the Knights in 2010?

  • Matt Johns

    Votes: 10 15.6%
  • Andrew Johns

    Votes: 4 6.3%
  • Phil Gould

    Votes: 11 17.2%
  • Steve Folkes

    Votes: 12 18.8%
  • Rick Stone

    Votes: 15 23.4%
  • Stephen Kearney

    Votes: 6 9.4%
  • Trent Robinson

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Graham Murray

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Brad Fittler

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Tim Sheens

    Votes: 3 4.7%
  • Other

    Votes: 3 4.7%

  • Total voters
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Why is Tim Sheens in the poll over Michael Maguire and Shane Flanagan (who have both been linked to the job)?

I also think Rip Taylor and Nathan Brown should be in consideration.

Heard a little rumour on Triple M last night.

Flanagan & Maguire are definitely candidates, but at the mo they are under 'other'.
 
Head Coach: Rick Stone
Assistant Coach: Matty Johns

Or, keep Rick at assistant coach, bring Matty into assistant too, and get a new coach.

However, with Stone, we wont have to spend much more money on a new coach, because he is already currently at the club. He also has experience within the club and knows how everything runs, knows all the personnel, and all the players he would have to work with.
 
I don't know what to vote, I really can't pick one. I guess ideal would be Gus but that is probably the least likely as well. Few there that i'd be happy with, hard to say what each coach will bring to the team and how players respond, i just hope whoever gets the job does very well.
 
What about the Johns bros together? Just put it under Other?

How would it ever work?

A joint coach thing would be stupid, and most likely a first in RL.

I don't mind Matt being head and Andrew being assistant if thats what you mean or vice versa.

I just think the Knights at this critical point need a guy who knows what they're doing. And I think with Matt's current league status and Joey's recent past, it's not a good thing to do.

Maybe in the future... but not now!
 
Too many coaches to pick one and you cant really say that some of the coaches there are better than the other. It doesn't matter who we pick for the job IMO. They are all the same to me.
 
If we're keeping the majority of our staff bar Smith, the more I'm leaning towards a rookie coach. Yes, I would feel more comfortable with an experienced coach, but they're also likely to come in and want to implement their own methods that they've developed through years of coaching.

It will be enough of an adjustment for the players to adapt to no Smith, I think it'll be too much for them to adapt to a whole new structure as well.
 
Fitler shouldn't be blamed for the Roosters dissapointing season. The players should... at the end of the day, its the players that are the field. Remember when Fitler came into coaching, he won his 1st couple of games. I reckon he wouldn't be so bad... He would have some experience and would have learnt from his mistakes.
 
A joint coach thing would be stupid, and most likely a first in RL.

When St George and Illawarra first merged, David Waite and Andrew Farrar were joint coaches, and they made the grand final in 1999. Plus Wayne Bennett and Don Furner were joint coaches when Canberra lost the 1987 grand final to Manly.

So it has happened before, I wouldn't recommend it in this situation, though!

I don't know what to make of all the Folkes love, I reckon he's washed up as a coach. Bulldogs were a rabble last year! It's like suggesting Chris Anderson comes back!
 
I don't know what to make of all the Folkes love, I reckon he's washed up as a coach. Bulldogs were a rabble last year! It's like suggesting Chris Anderson comes back!

Bit hard on Folkes I think there mate.

He isn't exactly number one on my list, but I wouldn't be looking at his last year as a good representation of his coaching ability. He had Mason and SBW walk out, and that wouldn't be good for moral. Plus a large number of injuries. We ourselves learnt in 07 what a combination of those two things can do to a team. Until then he had been extremely successful (pretty sure he had a higher winning percentage than Smithy).
 
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When your number 1 player in SBW walks out, plus the injury tolls, losing halfback before season even starts, Folkes deserves more credit from that 2008 season.

If anything, he should have won more titles.
 
Folkes is a premiership winning coach. Talks for itself.

So are Hagan and Sheens. So no, it doesn't really talk for itself. Premierships can be very misleading.

Hagan won the comp using the the brilliant team that Warren Ryan built, which consisted of Joey, Bedsy, Tahu, Kennedy, Gidley, etc. He basically didn't have to do anything with that team he had. Hagan himself would know that there's no way he would have won a comp without that team. Then look at his other years here, without Joey we couldn't win a thing. The same thing happened when he was at Parra.

Then there's Sheens. He used to be a great coach, but you cant really say that anymore, regardless of that fact that he won the comp in 05. The Tigers that year were the biggest Steven Bradburys of the competition. They regularly got flogged during the year, and they only made the GF after both Parra, and I think Dragons? got spanked after having the week off (which we see happen all so much). They haven't made the semis since.

Yes they've both won comps, but if I had a choice between Smith or Hagan and Sheens, I'd take Smith without even having to think about it.
 
I can't see Matt Johns as coach of Knights: Andrew Johns

I HAVEN'T spoken to my brother Matthew yet about the speculation linking him to the Knights coaching job.

I will say this, though: I'd be really surprised if he was seriously thinking of throwing his hat into the ring. One thing I am certain of - I won't be.

I love the club but it's not something I would even contemplate doing. I had a tiny sample of what it's like during the Origin and there is no way I would get on that rollercoaster eight months of the year.

Like almost everyone, I had absolutely no inkling Brian Smith was even considering moving on from Newcastle. But when you sit back and think about it, the whole thing is pretty logical.

He had another year guaranteed at the Knights but that's all and it's pretty obvious the club didn't want him for any length of time after that.

I can understand some people blowing up about a lack of loyalty. But let's be honest, what incentive is there to be loyal in our game?

Long-serving players who do the right thing by clubs become a salary cap hinderance and end up getting farmed out to English clubs.

Teams lose a string of games and all of a sudden, a coach's head is on the chopping block. That's unfortunately the reality these days.

I'd like to see a young, up-and-coming coach get the gig - someone like a Rick Stone, or a Michael Maguire or a Stephen Kearney, who have all done an apprenticeship and deserve an opportunity.

As for the Sydney Roosters and the way they have handled this whole coaching issue, I'm disgusted about the way they have treated Brad Fittler. For the Under 20's strapper to find out before Freddy is a disgrace.
And what about the comment - in front of Freddy at a press conference - that they had "found someone better for the job".

What a kick in the guts that was for someone who has done so much for the club, both as a player when he led them to a premiership, and as a coach who took on the job last year in their hour of need.

It is beyond belief a club legend could be treated like that after what he has contributed to the place.
Daily Telegraph

You can just about cross the Johns brothers out of the list.
 
Good!

Unknown who wants Brian Smith's Newcastle gig

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HE is an unknown who has stood in the shadows at Newcastle behind Michael Hagan and Brian Smith for four years. But this is the man ready to step into the light and coach the mighty Newcastle Knights.

Rick Stone, Newcastle's assistant coach, has the support of the players and is good mates with Knights legend and club director Paul Harragon. Although untried at NRL level, Stone said he was ready to step-up and take on one of the plum jobs in rugby league.

The Daily Telegraph understands Newcastle want to name a replacement for Roosters-bound Brian Smith by the end of August.

Stone joins a number of other high-profile contenders including Matthew Johns, David Fairleigh, Steve Folkes and Shane Flanagan.

Stone is the brother of former Canberra player Steve.

"I'm ready to step into the top role and be comfortable," he said.

"I have a good relationship with the Newcastle players and I think my man-management skills are good.

"I think players are comfortable with me and they understand quickly what point I'm trying to get across.

"Hopefully I am also a coach the players want to play under.

"If they aren't looking for someone with NRL experience - then I am confident I could be a success if given the job."

Stone, 42, coached the Burleigh Bears for 10 years in the Queensland Cup. He had a winning success rate of 80 per cent, reaching four grand finals and missing the finals just once.

Stone also played for Lakes United in the local Newcastle competition before three seasons with Souths in Sydney in 1988, 1989 and 1990. He then captain-coached Nambucca Heads in 1992-93 before moving into the Queensland Cup. Asked what his strength was, Stone said: "The biggest ally I have is that I believe in the processes and structure that Brian has put into place.

"The players believe in them too.

"I think I could keep that going and keep those structures in place.

"Working with Michael Hagan and Brian Smith has put the finishing touches on my coaching career.

"I am inexperienced at NRL level but I have a wealth of experience when it comes to coaching. It's a matter of what the club wants."

Hagan, meanwhile, gave Stone a huge wrap, adding that he had "plenty of knowledge and has served a good apprenticeship".

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...hs-newcastle-gig/story-e6frexnr-1225752898666
 
Then there's Sheens. He used to be a great coach, but you cant really say that anymore, regardless of that fact that he won the comp in 05. The Tigers that year were the biggest Steven Bradburys of the competition. They regularly got flogged during the year, and they only made the GF after both Parra, and I think Dragons? got spanked after having the week off (which we see happen all so much). They haven't made the semis since.

To say Wests were regularly flogged during the year in 2005 is just palin wrong. They were in the top four after 26 rounds, and playing some brilliant football. I for one tipped them to beat the Dragons in that semi, and the Dragons didn't choke or anything, they gave it everything they had, but they were just outplayed by a great side.

They've been rubbish ever since, but Sheens definitely had them firing in 2005.

Interesting that Graeme Lowe has expressed an interest... wouldn't be a bad choice either

Oh please no. He may have used to be a decent coach a long time ago, but he's pretty much a senile insane guy now. Last time he coached, North Queensland spent the whole season getting beaten by 60 points. He bought the Warriors and drove them into the ground, bankrupting them. He took over the NZRL and sacked Brian McClennan so he could get his mate Gary Kemble in as coach ... result, NZ had their worst season ever in 2007 and even almost lost to France.

Lowe is a talentless has been.

Stone is the brother of former Canberra player Steve.

He's Steve Stone's brother? Bahaha, that's not good! haha.
 
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