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HarVeeGee13
Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
About time on the Giannis trade lol.
The big one will be Powell. Then other players like Jovic who have been stashed away at times and gotten inconsistent play time should get more minutes making their contracts a bargain.
Tough life being an NBA team and managing difficult aprons. But did not expect contending teams to conclude rookie contracts are not needed. Even if maybe latter part of draft is weak?
CLE: Shaved $2.9M off by trading away #29. Now $21.1M under the tax, $29.1M under first apron and $42.1M under second apron (before re-signing James Harden – assuming he opts out)
DEN: Shaved $3.1M off by trading away #26. Now $3.2M under first apron and $16.2M under second apron (factoring in a Jonas Valanciunas waiver)
NYK: Shaved $3.3M off by trading away #24 and ending with no first-round pick. Now $3.5M under first apron and $16.5M under second apron
Austin Reaves as expected, re-signs. Interesting with the player option...If the cap goes up enough he can opt out of the last year and get more money on another max contract. Even if he ends up as a bad contract, See trae young lol. Collectively GM's suddenly decided to give the players all the leverage again. After crying about player empowerment.
Weird one on Ball...Kinda wasn't sure if a team would do it but here we are
Wolves' size is the main reason they've succeeded in the post season and they've traded it all away. And Lamelo sometimes having defensive issues careless/going MIA/not caring...concern. On the flip side you do have someone who can take shots when the good teams eventually do double Ant, and lighten the load for him. It's something different...
Wolves do 'address' the PG position. Certainly better than relying on Conley or DDV when he comes back. And sometimes Finch treats Ant like a PG, every 12th to 15th game, he proves it, moves the ball and runs sets.
Do give the edge to Charlotte for this trade. Who knows when/if Ball plays 70+ games again lol. Think with Ball shooting less and playing less minutes helped Charlotte this season, build the team around their other guys, they own their firsts, pick swaps (a good one from Dallas from memory)...worry about those headaches when they happen.
It could be an okay fit for the Wolves, Ball with better players...we'll see.
Wolves' size is the main reason they've succeeded in the post season and they've traded it all away. And Lamelo sometimes having defensive issues careless/going MIA/not caring...concern. On the flip side you do have someone who can take shots when the good teams eventually do double Ant, and lighten the load for him. It's something different...
Wolves do 'address' the PG position. Certainly better than relying on Conley or DDV when he comes back. And sometimes Finch treats Ant like a PG, every 12th to 15th game, he proves it, moves the ball and runs sets.
Do give the edge to Charlotte for this trade. Who knows when/if Ball plays 70+ games again lol. Think with Ball shooting less and playing less minutes helped Charlotte this season, build the team around their other guys, they own their firsts, pick swaps (a good one from Dallas from memory)...worry about those headaches when they happen.
It could be an okay fit for the Wolves, Ball with better players...we'll see.
HarVeeGee13
Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
Yeah when the other team has the guy in the building, and he's obviously their best/most influential player by both eye test and analytics, and they're like "we've gotta move this guy"... that would have to give you pause surely.
Timberwolves are still playing catchup from the original sin of overpaying for Rudy though. This is why you give yourself time and see what you need before guessing in advance while your superstar is still in his early 20's. All along they needed another ball handler/shot creator AND that physical frontcourt, and they've trapped themselves in a situation where there probably isn't a way for them to get both. There's another timeline where they were more patient, they have good front court players in depth (Kessler was one of the guys traded for Rudy, lmao) rather than blowing everything on Rudy who's obviously good but is literally totally unplayable in certain matchups, and their team is Ant with whatever star or fringe all star level ball handler they could have gotten, PLUS JMc, Reid, maybe KAT still there, etc etc etc.
Having to accept the Josh Green dump as part of it, he's borderline unplayable, yuck. It's either Dosunmu, their second round pick or whoever they find on the street at the 3 spot. Don't love that. This team literally has four players on it and I'm not sure which free agency move helps them much with that.
Timberwolves are still playing catchup from the original sin of overpaying for Rudy though. This is why you give yourself time and see what you need before guessing in advance while your superstar is still in his early 20's. All along they needed another ball handler/shot creator AND that physical frontcourt, and they've trapped themselves in a situation where there probably isn't a way for them to get both. There's another timeline where they were more patient, they have good front court players in depth (Kessler was one of the guys traded for Rudy, lmao) rather than blowing everything on Rudy who's obviously good but is literally totally unplayable in certain matchups, and their team is Ant with whatever star or fringe all star level ball handler they could have gotten, PLUS JMc, Reid, maybe KAT still there, etc etc etc.
Having to accept the Josh Green dump as part of it, he's borderline unplayable, yuck. It's either Dosunmu, their second round pick or whoever they find on the street at the 3 spot. Don't love that. This team literally has four players on it and I'm not sure which free agency move helps them much with that.
Still waiting for the Lakers to do something. Personally, I think they should trade LeBron to GWS so they can run an "Expendables" season with Dramond, Steph and LeBron. Certainly, neither roster is a championship roster, so they should roll the dice on their aging superstars and/or move on.
Small sample size but I imagine they were uninspired from his play in ‘games that matter’. The Play In game against Miami. Where Ball was "heroic". But it was his lack of defense being 6'7 that Miami targeted. His turnovers and fouls that almost cost them the game too.
Also Ball did injure Adebayo on a dirty play. Creating an advantage. Then couldn't handle Suggs the next game.
Also Ball did injure Adebayo on a dirty play. Creating an advantage. Then couldn't handle Suggs the next game.
LeBron is a UFA in less than a week and the talk is the communication has been minimal. A lot can change from now and then. But if they both move on and let him do whatever he wants as a FA then fair game.
Bronny will either follow him or not be in the NBA when/if he retires. No one’s dumb enough to be taking him on or giving him a sniff close to what his rookie contract was lol.
The GSW talk (though not new) is certainly interesting. I have no idea how they can fit both Bron and AD and I guess that includes what kind of one year deal Steph takes again, with Draymond opting out they’d be able to come to some sort of agreement.
The GSW talk (though not new) is certainly interesting. I have no idea how they can fit both Bron and AD and I guess that includes what kind of one year deal Steph takes again, with Draymond opting out they’d be able to come to some sort of agreement.
The GWS expendables would at least be an entertaining storyline. I started supporting the Lakers because of Lebron now I actually want the team to move on.
Meantime there's two Australians at the Bulls in Giddey and Olbrich so I'll probably mostly follow them and the other smattering of Aussies around the league. Did see few months ago that there were suggestions that the Lakers might be interested in Matisse in free agency.
Meantime there's two Australians at the Bulls in Giddey and Olbrich so I'll probably mostly follow them and the other smattering of Aussies around the league. Did see few months ago that there were suggestions that the Lakers might be interested in Matisse in free agency.
Celticman98
Mark Hughes
Morant traded to Portland today.
Pretty much like Young just no value and market, but really not sure if it’s the right team and system with who they have. Unsurprisingly it’s just a match salaries and length type of deal with a potential rotational piece.
I’m not sure what the Warriors will have to attach to get a deal done to get AD which means shipping off Butler but Porzingis getting $20m with his injuries probably doesn’t help them either. I don’t believe they can use their MLE on LeBron either
I’m not sure what the Warriors will have to attach to get a deal done to get AD which means shipping off Butler but Porzingis getting $20m with his injuries probably doesn’t help them either. I don’t believe they can use their MLE on LeBron either
Well, I guess I got my wish with LeBron announcing he is playing next season, but not with the Lakers. We'll have to see who will pick LeBron up in free agency when it opens later today.
Heat lack depth and need a point guard, which LeBron can do, so if it's not GWS, it could be them.
Heat lack depth and need a point guard, which LeBron can do, so if it's not GWS, it could be them.
I think he burnt his bridges with Pat Riley and Spo but if Cleveland and Gilbert took him back with open arms…
I assume he will be willing to take a pay cut as well, unless he wants to go to the Bulls or Nets lol.
The Kawhi trade is bizarre, Toronto giving up so much for a guy who was a beast for 30 games this year but still so much uncertainty with whether he will play a lot of games as well
Now is as good time as any to reset, with the Clippers not owing the Thunder anymore
I assume he will be willing to take a pay cut as well, unless he wants to go to the Bulls or Nets lol.
The Kawhi trade is bizarre, Toronto giving up so much for a guy who was a beast for 30 games this year but still so much uncertainty with whether he will play a lot of games as well
Now is as good time as any to reset, with the Clippers not owing the Thunder anymore
The Lakers spending of Lebron's money reminded me on the good old days when they were a lottery team and missed out on LaMarcus Aldridge so they went out and got guys like Mozgov and Deng.
And a WTF to Boston as well. Would have been better if they didn't get one of the worst contracts in the NBA.
And a WTF to Boston as well. Would have been better if they didn't get one of the worst contracts in the NBA.
Signed with the Bulls since, which I don't mind.
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The logic is that Brown/Tatum are too similar and investing that much money in your top two guys, including Brown who could ask for more in his next contract is unsustainable going forward.
Might be because repeater luxury tax Boston is trying to avoid. They've been paying until last season (Tatum's injury gap year). So might as well take this season off too? Derrick White becomes trade candidate? Hmmm
Otherwise I thought they could flip the timing between those two guys...maybe the smart thing would have been to trade White first and then wait until the deadline to trade Brown. It's not like the offer could have been worse.
There is some confusion about the picks too heh
The 2028 pick Boston is getting, or swapping, with the Sixers is kind of complicated.
Boston could get Philadelphia's pick if it lands 1-8. If that pick is 9-30 it's gone from the Sixers in a complicated swap that involves multiple teams.
If the Philadelphia pick is 9-30, then Boston could get the most favorable of their own pick and the LA Clippers pick that Philadelphia owns, with the less favorable pick staying with the Sixers.
And
2028 1st that could convert from 1st to swap move favorable to Boston
2031 unprotected Sixers 1st
2028 2nd rounder most favorable GSW/OKC/MIL
2030 2nd most favorable WAS/POR/PHX
HarVeeGee13
Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
The Spurs have a swap with Boston (more favourable goes to the Spurs) which is #1 protected.