Israel Folau

Wobbles said:
The only centre worth throwing the bank at would be Croker, and there's no chances of prying him away from Canberra.

Without even stepping on the pitch I would think Folau would be a fair price at $500k with performance-based incentives.
Wouldn't want him at anything above $700k unless he plays the house down.

Someone will cough up that coin though, he'll get what he wants. Expect the best Sydney-based options would be the Bunnies or Dragons.
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With the avg nrl salary around the 320k mark, there is no way that Falou would sign for 500k.
 
Yeah I think nrl clubs are gonna smarten up after watching certain teams toil away their salary cap on so called million dollar players.

Dugan, Boyd, Cronk, Bird come to memory

Almost makes me wonder whether anyone other then a halves, or a Cameron Smith calibre hooker or a Taumololo is worth that price tag anymore
 
Yes for me. Class player all round will make a difference, one thing knights struggle this year is execution. Provided we get those forwards we are after otherwise no forwards no push in ruck and we just watch SKD and Folau catch bombs all day.
 
Wobbles said:
The only centre worth throwing the bank at would be Croker, and there's no chances of prying him away from Canberra.

Without even stepping on the pitch I would think Folau would be a fair price at $500k with performance-based incentives.
Wouldn't want him at anything above $700k unless he plays the house down.

Someone will cough up that coin though, he'll get what he wants. Expect the best Sydney-based options would be the Bunnies or Dragons.
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Throwing the bank at? He'd be worth a good offer but hardly a marquee player. (Crocker)
 
After hearing Folau double-down on his homophobic comments and offer to walk away from Union if they thought it was in the best interests of their code, it makes me wonder why would the NRL have a more tolerant attitude to that public stance? He's equally likely to upset the NRL community as he has done to Union.

I'd be surprised if there were many sponsors happy to have a publicly homophobic athlete as the face of their brand.

That has to considerably offset the feel-good story of him coming back to league. Folau to the Knights? No thanks.
 
Lord of the Skraelings said:
Throwing the bank at? He'd be worth a good offer but hardly a marquee player. (Crocker)
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I've always rated Croker and he's got a lot left in him, but agree he's not a marquee centre in the same mold as for example Inglis was in his earlier days. Given the clear deficiencies in our roster in the centres On the open market I'd still be happy if we picked him up. But that's purely hypothetical.
 
Wobbles said:
After hearing Folau double-down on his homophobic comments and offer to walk away from Union if they thought it was in the best interests of their code, it makes me wonder why would the NRL have a more tolerant attitude to that public stance? He's equally likely to upset the NRL community as he has done to Union.

I'd be surprised if there were many sponsors happy to have a publicly homophobic athlete as the face of their brand.

That has to considerably offset the feel-good story of him coming back to league. Folau to the Knights? No thanks.
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This Homophobic crap gets me if he is homophobic so are 2 and a 1/2 billion other Christians as they believe what they're gods word says and it does say (men who practice homosexuality will not be allowed in the kingdom of heaven ) and anyone that doesn't get to go to heaven goes to hell ...So why all of a sudden ( the last 20 years or so ) are people not allowed to express they're opinion they're religons opinion or they're gods opinion about a minority without being persecuted for it ...So sick and tired of minorities whinging about they're feelings being hurt because someone has a different opinion to they're's ...Bring him to the Knights i will cheer for him every game and back up his rights ...OH and I'm not religious one iota ...
 
Ethan said:
This Homophobic crap gets me if he is homophobic so are 2 and a 1/2 billion other Christians as they believe what they're gods word says and it does say (men who practice homosexuality will not be allowed in the kingdom of heaven ) and anyone that doesn't get to go to heaven goes to hell ...So why all of a sudden ( the last 20 years or so ) are people not allowed to express they're opinion they're religons opinion or they're gods opinion about a minority without being persecuted for it ...So sick and tired of minorities whinging about they're feelings being hurt because someone has a different opinion to they're's ...Bring him to the Knights i will cheer for him every game and back up his rights ...OH and I'm not religious one iota ...
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Dont even start this crap.
Last time i heard the devil hasnt brought out a book, so how the fark would anyone know what hell is about.
Fyi, ive lied, cheated to win, stole as a kid, drunk myself senseless many times and even eaten cray fish many times.
All those things are sins in gods books.
So im one of the devils boys, he's gonna farking dig me.
As for this ohmo crap, i dont give a flying fark at all...
You dont like gays, thsts fine... dont marry a gsy person.
Ahhhh isnt it a simple solution..... #nannystateagendaownedworldofchit
 
Ethan said:
So why all of a sudden ( the last 20 years or so ) are people not allowed to express they're opinion they're religons opinion or they're gods opinion about a minority without being persecuted for it ...
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I think we can blame the prevalence of social media for that change. Everyone with a keyboard or camera phone can say whatever they want to a global audience.

I'm an open atheist and think it's all a bit crazy. Ultimately though I don't care one way or another about what people choose to believe provided they're not openly hateful. Would we be defending his comments if he was pushing a harmful racial opinion such as being anti Asian, or another religion such as anti Muslim? Probably less likely. What if his religion legitimately believed abusing kids was acceptable?

The majority of us can say virtually anything and get away with it to a large extent. Is that necessarily fair? Probably not.

Unfortunately for Folau, he's a public figure in an industry with a lot of stakeholders and needs to consider how his (and yes another 2.5 billion or more) views can hurt the image of the sport. In an age where the public is less tolerant of both literal and metaphorical gay-bashing and we have legislated gay marriage it's a sensitive issue there'll be repercussions for going against that.

Yes, he's a tremendously talented athlete with a lot to offer on the field and someone will take a punt on him, but they'll need to accept the implications that comes with. I expect that a fair proportion of Knights fans would be uncomfortable with him expressing those views publicly. Regardless of his price tag, for that reason I can't see Wests endorsing his signing.
 
I don't care what his beliefs are. If he comes here and gives 100% every game for a price tag that's suitable then I'll cheer him on. He doesn't hate gays he just doesn't condone it. So bloody what.
 
No doubt he genuinely believes what he said and good luck to him.

This is precisely what freedom of speech is about much to the disappointment of the PC leftists!
 
88Knight4life said:
Dont even start this crap.
Last time i heard the devil hasnt brought out a book, so how the fark would anyone know what hell is about.
Fyi, ive lied, cheated to win, stole as a kid, drunk myself senseless many times and even eaten cray fish many times.
All those things are sins in gods books.
So im one of the devils boys, he's gonna farking dig me.
As for this ohmo crap, i dont give a flying fark at all...
You dont like gays, thsts fine... dont marry a gsy person.
Ahhhh isnt it a simple solution..... #nannystateagendaownedworldofchit
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That's what Izzy basically stated today even saying himself that he'd be punished for many things.
 
88Knight4life said:
Dont even start this crap.
Last time i heard the devil hasnt brought out a book, so how the fark would anyone know what hell is about.
Fyi, ive lied, cheated to win, stole as a kid, drunk myself senseless many times and even eaten cray fish many times.
All those things are sins in gods books.
So im one of the devils boys, he's gonna farking dig me.
As for this ohmo crap, i dont give a flying fark at all...
You dont like gays, thsts fine... dont marry a gsy person.
Ahhhh isnt it a simple solution..... #nannystateagendaownedworldofchit
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I have 2 gay nieces who i adore 2 female gay friends who i love and a gay mate who is a great bloke and i don't give a rats what they prefer sexually and I'm also an Athiest... I'm just sick and tired of Minorities telling people what they can't think , believe , or say because it might hurt they're feelings ...I can tell you here and now if there is a heaven i wont be going there after the things ive done ...
 
Big yes for Izzy coming here from me besides Pearce and maybe Ponga he would be the best player in the team ...
 
Regardless of what you believe, it's seriously dumb for Folau as a high profile person with sponsors to go on social media commenting that gay people will go to hell. He could express his beliefs in a more civil, less divisive way, or better yet, keep it in private & not comment on social media about it. I wouldn't hold a guy's beliefs against him & would welcome him with open arms for the right price, he is only practicing what he's been taught his whole life after all. For the record, we're all going to hell, every one of us has committed sins, or is it only certain sins that go to hell, like being gay?
 
Joshhh said:
For the record, we're all going to hell, every one of us has committed sins, or is it only certain sins that go to hell, like being gay?
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If hell is indeed a place (which I doubt), isn't it fair to say that that'd be where all of the fun stuff happens? Heaven sounds pretty lame by comparison, way too polite for my tastes.
 
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