Adam O'Brien replacement?

Squad also needs to change

New coach won't change a thing with these blokes
Disagree. I think we need a new half, competent and dominant. Plus a new coach who takes no **** and owes no player a single thing other than understanding that he will sack them if they do not comply. The current forwards and backs a perfectly capable of playing really good football, individually they're all really talented and capable. It is direction they lack.
 
Coach in his media report claimed we are a young side. WHAT
Go through the team, front row, Safs and Brailey, they have been around for a number of years, back 3, Frizell a vet, Jones, been about, Croker, yes still raw, 6 Milford, hardly a new boy, 7 Clune a bit shy in firsts but mature, not a kid. Back 5, 1 Hoy not most experienced but played a bit, Young, yes like name young but a future star, Gagai, definitely not young, might actually be past his best, Best young but has played a lot of firsts, Tuala also youngish but played nearly if not every week. Bench, ok a bit inexperienced or over the hill, Crosslands has been around for a while, Sasagi ok young inexperienced, Saulo not a great amount of firsts but been knocking on the door for a few years and then Sue who has been around for quite a while.
So DSaf, JSaf, Frizell, Gagai SOO players, Best, Milford, and Brailey (100 games), Tuala, Clune, Jones, Saulo and Sue hardly young recruits leaving Hoy, Young, Croker, Crossland and Sasagi our youngsters who between them have probably been selected in top 17 50+ times.
Not young/inexperienced, poorly coached
 
Disagree. I think we need a new half, competent and dominant. Plus a new coach who takes no **** and owes no player a single thing other than understanding that he will sack them if they do not comply. The current forwards and backs a perfectly capable of playing really good football, individually they're all really talented and capable. It is direction they lack.
Totally disagree half the squad should be in reserve grade.

Or like joey said playing under 10s
 
Totally disagree half the squad should be in reserve grade.

Or like joey said playing under 10s
Not a lot of flexibility going into next year either. We've got Crossland, Musgrove and Saulo that can be offloaded. Every single other player is on contract for at least another year. There's a solid chunk there that can consider themselves lucky because they'd be on the chopping block after how this year has gone.
 
Totally disagree half the squad should be in reserve grade.

Or like joey said playing under 10s
Problem now is, if you're a forward, why on Gods green Earth would you put in 100% effort. Damage your body, risk injury and endure the pain only to see the bloke next to you let in a soft try 3 tackles later.

The way the boys are currently playing is reserve grade quality. Totally agree. But that has more to do with the cancer affecting performance than it does their natural ability.
 
Has anyones opinion changed now that the club is bringing stuff to the surface of what this club is like behind the scenes?
I cant stand AOB, but iam starting to think its hard to soar like a eagle when ya work with turkeys.
Parr may get rid of him but i think he will stay on and see how he goes with a bit more discipline around the joint.
 
Has anyones opinion changed now that the club is bringing stuff to the surface of what this club is like behind the scenes?
I cant stand AOB, but iam starting to think its hard to soar like a eagle when ya work with turkeys.
Parr may get rid of him but i think he will stay on and see how he goes with a bit more discipline around the joint.
I think he’s got to take a bit of blame for my letting standards slip like they have, but I don’t think he’s been given much help by Gardner. His roster this year is crap which hasn’t given him much show, but I still think he needs to be a lot more flexible when things aren’t working.

It was interesting to hear Parr on the Toohey podcast say he got rid of the Cowboys coach pretty quick when he first got there, so I don’t think he’ll hesitate to punt him if things aren’t working.
 
It’s not the players. It’s deeper than that, it’s evident with just about everyone that walks into this club and leaves this club. Simple.the drug culture is the first problem, wicks, Houston, Mullen, Joey, current speculations. Probably some I have missed.
 
It’s a club issue. AOB will be gone before next season and we’ll get a new coach who we will turf within 3-4 years. I know it’s easy to say from the outside but genuinely don’t think the playing group want to win as badly as others and until that changes no coach will ever fix it.
 
When AOB was first bought here, his ability to simplify a players role by breaking it down to a couple of key things they need to focus on, was spruiked as his best attribute! Seems to be working......

The very reason why Melbourne is so successful, you have to wonder if similar to the players if he was given a simple coaching role and was able to do it really well.

Is he capable of identifying the simple things individual players should be doing, for an entire roster, and fitting said pieces together to make a successful team?

I really think his just a bit player and not a overseer tbh.
 
Squad also needs to change

New coach won't change a thing with these blokes

If our pack.

8. Klemmer.
9. Brailey.
10. Dan.
11. Frizz.
12. Elliot.
13. Jacob.

14. Hetherington.
15. Thompson.
16. PSaulo/Signing.
17. Signing.

Can get us on the front foot which they should, we should atleast be able to get in the arm wrestle most weeks, lets be honest our forwards have been dreadful lately and whilst not excusing the rest of the team if your forwards are sh!!t it's hard for the rest of the team to shine.
 
If our pack.

8. Klemmer.
9. Brailey.
10. Dan.
11. Frizz.
12. Elliot.
13. Jacob.

14. Hetherington.
15. Thompson.
16. PSaulo/Signing.
17. Signing.

Can get us on the front foot which they should, we should atleast be able to get in the arm wrestle most weeks, lets be honest our forwards have been dreadful lately and whilst not excusing the rest of the team if your forwards are sh!!t it's hard for the rest of the team to shine.
Forwards definately not the issue not the last few weeks at least .
 
I went back and watched the Cobbo hat trick, focussing on Reynolds involvement from two angles. I wanted to see how far Reynolds was able to dig in to the line and what sort of inside pressure was coming at him.

First of all, Reynolds plays very straight and digs DEEP. I know people have an issue with Best coming infield on the first try, but it was beautifully executed. Best actually just followed his man, the opposite centre, in as he became a second decoy. There was a stack of disarray caused inside him through Jones and Clune's actions, and Reynolds was allowed to ball play late. We just don't see our halves digging in so deep and creating space outside them. It is a tough and unselfish play but helps the teams attack out so much.

Second of all, the Safs were really putting the effort in to create the inside pressure. The issue on all three tries was Jones. He defends like Fitz. On all three occasions he was a long way behind the Saf coming from his inside. The decoys were making it difficult for him to get to Reynolds, but I'm sure part of it was targeting him, getting him on his heels to allow Reynolds to play.

So to summarise, ball playing lessons for our halves, the efforts from the Safs stood out, and our problem started with the defender four in.
 
Yep and then when we get the ball, whether there’s inside pressure or not, our ball players do nothing to engage the line at all. Don’t even straighten things, they run at an angle and dump the problem off on someone else. Milford on the second try was maybe the only playmaker to engage the line all night.

As much as I’m sure we all don’t like or want Brooks, and there’s no comparison between him and Reynolds, he rarely plays so soft. Pearce never did.
 
I think he’s got to take a bit of blame for my letting standards slip like they have, but I don’t think he’s been given much help by Gardner. His roster this year is crap which hasn’t given him much show, but I still think he needs to be a lot more flexible when things aren’t working.

It was interesting to hear Parr on the Toohey podcast say he got rid of the Cowboys coach pretty quick when he first got there, so I don’t think he’ll hesitate to punt him if things aren’t working.
I'd argue we have a very good Roster. The coaching staff attack and defence are not working.
 
It’s not the players. It’s deeper than that, it’s evident with just about everyone that walks into this club and leaves this club. Simple.the drug culture is the first problem, wicks, Houston, Mullen, Joey, current speculations. Probably some I have missed.
It's a lifestyle thing, the amount of cocaine, mdma, ketamine etc. getting around in Australian nightclubs, the younger guys who go out for nights on the town will naturally be more exposed to it. And the guys that live a family lifestyle at home and don't really go out are going to be less exposed to it. It's something that every NRL club would struggle with. Joey is from a different time, different playing group, different culture altogether than Houston, Wicks & Mullo, who are all the same differences away from Mann and Ponga. Some of those blokes would never have even met. I simply don't think you can say it's a club problem.
 
It's a lifestyle thing, the amount of cocaine, mdma, ketamine etc. getting around in Australian nightclubs, the younger guys who go out for nights on the town will naturally be more exposed to it. And the guys that live a family lifestyle at home and don't really go out are going to be less exposed to it. It's something that every NRL club would struggle with. Joey is from a different time, different playing group, different culture altogether than Houston, Wicks & Mullo, who are all the same differences away from Mann and Ponga. Some of those blokes would never have even met. I simply don't think you can say it's a club problem.

I may be wrong, but I don’t see the others clubs going through as much. The Munster Smith one is first that springs to mind because it was recent.
 
I may be wrong, but I don’t see the others clubs going through as much. The Munster Smith one is first that springs to mind because it was recent.
I think we probably don't hear about a lot it. The NRL has a 3 strikes policy for it, if a player gets done for the first time it never gets revealed publicly. Only if they get caught a second time is it made known. Being random tests too, to get caught a second time would be pretty unlucky unless you're doing them all the time. Imagine all the times they're getting away with it. A lot of these party drugs are out of the system quick. Step into a nightclub, for people in their 20s, it's pretty commonplace.
 
I think we probably don't hear about a lot it. The NRL has a 3 strikes policy for it, if a player gets done for the first time it never gets revealed publicly. Only if they get caught a second time is it made known. Being random tests too, to get caught a second time would be pretty unlucky unless you're doing them all the time. Imagine all the times they're getting away with it. A lot of these party drugs are out of the system quick. Step into a nightclub, for people in their 20s, it's pretty commonplace.
Remember Dylan Phythian got his second strike and sacked from the club and Nathan Brown didn’t even know about the first strike! First positive stays anonymous under NRL rules if it’s still the same as back then.
 
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