2025 pre season thread

Be interested where De Courcey is at with his Elbow injury. They were saying 6+ months and that was pretty late in the season.
 
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Yep this has been the never ending Hastings cycle. Hope for his sake he’s finally figured out how to stop alienating himself from his teammates but going to take more than another performative podcast appearance to believe it.

Going into 2024 I was on the side that he was comfortably our best halfback but I’m sceptical that player still exists, both physically and mentally.
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Hastings will have no role in the 17, it's clear his bridges have been burnt, and he will take a top 30 spot and a good chunk of money next year before we part ways. His leg is screwed and that's that.
 
At this risk of sounding cynical he gave the exact same interview last off season on bloke in a bar. Talked about starting medication and therapy, loving Newcastle, team first, singing everyone’s praises…. Doesn’t seem to be able to reflect his talk in his actions though.

If I dare to dream though. Him doing a job at lock would solves heaps of issues. Frizell and Elliot can come on as props after the big boys have a stint. Then Elliot can do his second stint at lock for the last 20min. Instantly fixes our front row rotation and in theory takes ball playing pressure off our halves.
 
Flegg aged team from the firstgrade profiles

1 Fletcher Sharpe
2 Connor Votano
3 Kyle McCarthy
4 Wilson De Courcey
5 ?
6 Jye Linnane
7 Mat Arthur
8 Cody Hopwood
9 Malachi Smith
10 Francis Manuleleua
11 Jermaine McEwen
12 Elijah S/L
13 ??

Nearly there
 
Kickitoverhere said:
At this risk of sounding cynical he gave the exact same interview last off season on bloke in a bar. Talked about starting medication and therapy, loving Newcastle, team first, singing everyone’s praises…. Doesn’t seem to be able to reflect his talk in his actions though.

If I dare to dream though. Him doing a job at lock would solves heaps of issues. Frizell and Elliot can come on as props after the big boys have a stint. Then Elliot can do his second stint at lock for the last 20min. Instantly fixes our front row rotation and in theory takes ball playing pressure off our halves.
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Hastings would easily be the worst lock in the NRL lol.
 
Yeah he's not good at lock at NRL level. No leg drive, little core strength. He can't get a quick play the ball, isn't likely to get an arm free for an offload, etc. He's a half.
 
The new profiles have height and weight for many players for the first time

Spine players by height

Votano - 190 cm - 90kg
Riley Jones - 190 cm - 92kg
Tyson Gamble - 189 cm - 95kg
Fletcher Sharpe - 186 cm - 86kg
Hastings - 185 cm - 95kg
Ponga - 184 - 92kg
Pryce - 183 - 92kg
Crossland - 183 - 86kg
Linnane - 182 cm - 89kg
Malachi Smith - 181 cm - 88kg
Brailey - 179 cm - 88kg
Cogger - 176 cm - 90kg
Mat Arthur - 175 cm - 83kg
 
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Forwards by weight

JSaf - 114kg - 195cm
Manuleleua - 110kg - 186cm
Tyrone Thompson - 110kg - 186cm
KPP - 108kg - 198cm
Sua - 108kg 198cm
Croker - 108kg - 191cm
Frizzel - 108kg - 181cm
Hetherington - 107kg - 190cm
Leo Thompson - 107kg - 186cm
McEwen - 106kg - 185cm
Hopwood - 105kg - 196cm
Elliott - 103kg - 185cm
Jones - 103kg - 183cm
Elijah S/L - 100kg - 189cm
Paul Bryan - 100kg - 190cm
Lucas - 96kg - 184cm
Cant - 96kg - 181cm
 
Billy said:
The new profiles have height and weight for many players for the first time

Spine players by height

Votano - 190 cm - 90kg
Riley Jones - 190 cm - 92kg
Tyson Gamble - 189 cm - 95kg
Fletcher Sharpe - 186 cm - 86kg
Hastings - 185 cm - 95kg
Ponga - 184 - 92kg
Pryce - 183 - 92kg
Linnane - 182 cm - 89kg
Malachi Smith - 181 cm - 88kg
Brailey - 179 cm - 88kg
Cogger - 176 cm - 90kg
Mat Arthur - 175 cm - 83kg
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Crossland?
 
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12 month difference
 
Clarification on the development/supplemental/training players as announced by the NRL last year:

"Development player contracts replaced by 'Supplementary list'. $650,000 cap for at least four, maximum six players, paid $80,000, can play from Round 1. Bonus of $3,000 for any NRL game.

Training contracts (train and trial). To rise to $1200 in 2024, $3,000 bonus for any NRL game, can only play NRL from Round 11 (ie after Round 10)."

Thompson, Votano & De Courcey have been officially announced as development players by the club, and Toohey said Smith is one as well so that seems like a safe bet. Sounds like Linnane is another one and then I'm assuming Salesa-Leaumoana is the 6th based on his profile being added yesterday at the same time as the other confirmed development players (minus Votano who already had one). McCarthy & Hopwood both have profiles too but they were added last season so not new additions.

So guessing/predicting the non-top 30 players from the first training group:
Development - Wilson De Courcey, Jye Linanne, Elijah Salesa-Leaumoana, Malachi Smith, Tyrone Thompson, Connor Votano
Training - Brock Greacen, Cody Hopwood, Kyle McCarthy, Liam Sutton
Juniors - Logan Aoake, Jack Hilliar, Haami Loza
 
New profiles all have junior clubs listed.
List of junior clubs from closest to Newcastle to most distant.

NEWCASTLE
Taj Annan - Merewether RU - South Newcastle Lions

LAKE MACQUARIE
Jack Hetherington - Valentine Devils

LOWER HUNTER COALFIELDS
Tom Cant - East Maitland Griffins
Cody Hopwood - West Maitland Wallaroos
Jye Linnane - Kurri Kurri Bulldogs
Brodie Jones - Cessnock Goannas
Fletcher Sharpe - Cessnock Goannas

CENTRAL COAST
Jack Cogger - Toukley Hawks
Malachi Smith - Terrigal Sharks
Connor Votano - Entrance Tigers
Jacob Saifiti - Entrance Tigers
Riley Jones - Entrance Tigers
Pheonix Crossland - Erina Eagles
Bradman Best - Woy Woy Roosters

MID NORTH COAST
Mat Croker - Taree Panthers

SYDNEY
Mat Arthur - Rouse Hill Rhinos, Sydney
Wilson De Courcey - St Clair Comets, Sydney
Jayden Brailey - Aquinas Colts, Sydney

ILLAWARRA/SOUTH COAST
Jackson Hastings - Wests Illawarra
Tyson Frizzel - Corrimal Cougars
Dylan Lucas - Albion Park Eagles
Kyle McCarthy - Gerringong Lions
Adam Elliott - Tathra Sea Eagles

CENTRAL WEST NSW
James Schiller - Young Yabbies
Jermaine McEwen - Bloomfield Tigers, Orange (Hughburt6 has pointed out that Bloomfield Tigers are from Orange) I know he has a koori father and Samoan mother and his sister says she is a St Mary's junior, so maybe they have moved around - from Orange to west Sydney and the family have lived in Newcastle for the last 4 years.

BRISBANE
Tyson Gamble - Albany Creek Brisbane

COUNTRY QLD
Paul Bryan - Brothers Mackay
Dane Gagai - Souths Mackay
Kalyn Ponga - Souths Mackay

NEW ZEALAND
Leo Thompson - Napier Marist, NZ
Tyrone Thompson - Maraenui Pumas, NZ
Seb Sua - Mt Albert Lions, NZ
Greg Marzhew - Mangare East Hawks NZ
Elijah S/L - Mangare East Hawks NZ
Francis Manuleleua - Papatoetoe Panthers, Auckland NZ

ENGLAND
Kai Pearce-Paul - Croydon, London
Will Pryce - West Bowling, Yorkshire
 
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