2023 Preseason thread.

Les Misérables said:
What's the difference between watching The Roosters v Panthers or Tigers v Titans?

The answer to that question is the answer to your question of 'who cares what level it's at'.
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People can, and do, enjoy a sport irrespective of whether it can be seen by some as inferior to some other sport/grade. A-League pales in comparison to EPL. Rugby is played better by better teams in NZ, South Africa and England (probably - I don't follow it closely). Despite that, those sports have fans who can enjoy them for what they are. NRLW is an example of that.

And of those two NRL game examples, I'd watch Tigers/Titans over Roosters/Panthers, simply because I can't stand those last two.
 
I’d watch the Tigers game too, they’ve always been a second side of mine with the Benji connection, and 2005 is one of the two GFs I’ve been to. So it’s different for everyone.

I often find Origin games quite boring, despite them apparently being the pinnacle (although they’ve improved the last few years now they’re a bit more competitive).

But then again I’m a Kiwi so they also don’t hold as much interest for me for that reason.
 
Good Times said:
People can, and do, enjoy a sport irrespective of whether it can be seen by some as inferior to some other sport/grade. A-League pales in comparison to EPL. Rugby is played better by better teams in NZ, South Africa and England (probably - I don't follow it closely). Despite that, those sports have fans who can enjoy them for what they are. NRLW is an example of that.

And of those two NRL game examples, I'd watch Tigers/Titans over Roosters/Panthers, simply because I can't stand those last two.
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Of course, people enjoy sports for all variety of reasons. Though, I was specific about the sport being at its best as a spectacle when it is played at its highest level. That's all sports.
 
Herald article that gives the possible selections for round 1.
There are a few out there selections, but the most out there is naming Max Bradbury as our 5th best prop and saying "There are high hopes in the club for NSW under-19 representative Bradbury. By all accounts an NRL debut might not be too far away."
I said for a few years he was our best young forward since Snowden, but he came back this year after 2 years off with injuries and covid, and it took most of the Ball and Flegg seasons for him to start looking good again.
I assume he is training really well.
www.newcastleherald.com.au

How the Newcastle Knights could line up in round one next season

More signings are expected between now and the start of the season.
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The team selected.

Kalyn Ponga,
Greg Marzhew,
Bradman Best,
Dane Gagai,
Dom Young,
Tyson Gamble,
Jackson Hastings,
Jack Hetherington,
Lachlan Fitzgibbon,
Tyson Frizell,
Daniel Saifiti,
Jayden Brailey,
Jacob Saifiti.

Bench:
Kurt Mann,
Adam Elliott,
Mat Croker,
Leo Thompson,
Brodie Jones (18th man).
 
Ponga fixed for 6. I think these journalists think it was subject to us signing a fullback, without realising we're happy to use one we've already got at thr club
 
Hetherington at lock seems to be based on player tracking saying he's the fastest forward in the NRL.
I don't hate the idea as long as they train him up for it and don't just throw him in. Even if they only got him up to being the Aldi version of Yeo, I'd take that.
 
Apart from Max McKinney, the Newcastle Herald’s coverage of the Knights is sub-par. Sadly for the Herald, this place is a better source of information on the Knights than it.

The Herald’s management should ensure they have good coverage of the Knights to help maintain the viability of the paper.
 
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Lefty said:
Apart from Max McKinney, the Newcastle Herald’s coverage of the Knights is sub-par. Sadly for the Herald, this place is a better source of information on the Knights than it.

The Herald’s management should ensure they have good coverage of the Knights to help maintain the viability of the paper.
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Doubt the Herald is too dependent on Knights fans (the ones that pay for subscriptions anyway). I'm guessing it's a sizeable group, but minor compared to its overall readership audience. In any case, it's the offseason with 2-3 months to go before kickoff. Not sure there's all that much to report on right now. The club seems to have plugged some leaks as well, so anything newsworthy might be harder to come by.
 
Good Times said:
Doubt the Herald is too dependent on Knights fans (the ones that pay for subscriptions anyway). I'm guessing it's a sizeable group, but minor compared to its overall readership audience. In any case, it's the offseason with 2-3 months to go before kickoff. Not sure there's all that much to report on right now. The club seems to have plugged some leaks as well, so anything newsworthy might be harder to come by.
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When I canceled my subscription in November, they offered me a half priced subscription. To do that I think they are struggling to retain subscribers.

I’m not a local anymore but, one if the ways for the Herald to remain viable, is to have strong coverage of the Knights. Now that it appears Barry Toohey will not be returning, the Herald’s coverage of the Knights is very basic. Even I could write some decent articles on the Knights over the off season.

The alternatives for the Knights fans to get information on the Knights are the news on NBN television (for locals), facebook which is very iffy or here.
 
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And that will be a real shame for the coverage of the Knights and the Newcastle Rugby League.

It becomes a bit of a downward spiral ... sales drop, so they cut reporters on local stuff and use more national news, that causes sales to drop further because people aren't getting the local coverage they want.

I've seen figures on the number of journalists and how badly they've fallen off over the last 10/20 years in NZ, you have to wonder what we'll end up with.

On the Newcastle Herald I'd have happily taken up a "Knights only news" subscription over the years, if they'd offered that as a cut price thing. Sadly for a non-local there wasn't much else relevant for it to be worth it for me to subscribe digitally. I wonder if others would have done the same thing, it might have been a good money spinner for them.
 
jamesgould said:
And that will be a real shame for the coverage of the Knights and the Newcastle Rugby League.

It becomes a bit of a downward spiral ... sales drop, so they cut reporters on local stuff and use more national news, that causes sales to drop further because people aren't getting the local coverage they want.

I've seen figures on the number of journalists and how badly they've fallen off over the last 10/20 years in NZ, you have to wonder what we'll end up with.

On the Newcastle Herald I'd have happily taken up a "Knights only news" subscription over the years, if they'd offered that as a cut price thing. Sadly for a non-local there wasn't much else relevant for it to be worth it for me to subscribe digitally. I wonder if others would have done the same thing, it might have been a good money spinner for them.
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Already seeing journalism standards dropping in news coverage.

Soo much of the news now is generated from social media posts. Spelling and grammatical errors common in articles now.
 
Kurriboy said:
Already seeing journalism standards dropping in news coverage.

Soo much of the news now is generated from social media posts. Spelling and grammatical errors common in articles now.
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Absolutely. I remember I was a kid you would get things like match reports which were entertaining and really good pieces of writing just by themselves ... they'd almost find a theme in the match and write a story around it.
 
Kurriboy said:
Already seeing journalism standards dropping in news coverage.

Soo much of the news now is generated from social media posts. Spelling and grammatical errors common in articles now.
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True journalism died a long time ago. It transformed itself into a commercial game where articles were defined by what factual information is omitted/included. An editor can do a lot with that. Make a hero appear a villain etc. But yet, the article is still factual and maintains plausible deniability to its objectivity.

But even that's dead. These days news its just opinion pieces dressed up as journalism.

The closer any news article gets to a sensitive subject the poorer the quality of journalism. That's the rule.
 
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