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I don’t get it, how do Souths have that type of money?

Even with Keon leaving, they’ve still got all of these players still contracted until the end of 27:
Mitchell $1,100,000
Murray $1,100,000
Wighton 850k
Campbell 700k
Arrow $700
That’s roughly $6million on 6 players

How did the Bronx stuff this up? They’ve got access to more TPAs than anyone else.

They can lose Reynolds and Hunt now they have Pezet coming in 27. That only really leaves Walsh, Mam, Carrigan on big money
 
Newygirl said:
I don’t get it, how do Souths have that type of money?

Even with Keon leaving, they’ve still got all of these players still contracted until the end of 27:
Mitchell $1,100,000
Murray $1,100,000
Wighton 850k
Campbell 700k
Arrow $700
That’s roughly $6million on 6 players

How did the Bronx stuff this up? They’ve got access to more TPAs than anyone else.

They can lose Reynolds and Hunt now they have Pezet coming in 27. That only really leaves Walsh, Mam, Carrigan on big money
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Wighton on $850k. Wow he's been very underwhelming for Souths in his first two seasons there.
 
Yeah but how long does he stay on so little money with two new teams coming in?

Souths are going to have a lot more on bugger all money if they’re signing Haas as well.

I guess they just give him a smaller amount for 27 and then increase it a lot for the remaining years once Wighton, Arrow etc leave
 
I don’t reckon they’ll be able to keep Humphreys. They’ll just continue to have a sizeable amount of their squad not be first graders, as is already the case.
 
HarVeeGee13 said:
Payne Haas is good enough that if you can get him you just do it and figure out the rest later.
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I get this view but Brisbane tried this even under Bennett with Haas, Fifita, TPJ, Carrigan and Flagler. They went out week one losing by 50 and then ended up with a spoon. Haas is good but his still a front rower, he will get you into good position but if you don’t have the halves it doesn’t matter.
 
Newygirl said:
Yeah but how long does he stay on so little money with two new teams coming in?

Souths are going to have a lot more on bugger all money if they’re signing Haas as well.

I guess they just give him a smaller amount for 27 and then increase it a lot for the remaining years once Wighton, Arrow etc leave
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100% , outside him Gray is the only first grade standard spine player they have.
 
Quinny said:
I get this view but Brisbane tried this even under Bennett with Haas, Fifita, TPJ, Carrigan and Flagler. They went out week one losing by 50 and then ended up with a spoon. Haas is good but his still a front rower, he will get you into good position but if you don’t have the halves it doesn’t matter.
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Yes, and now the “figuring out” process is in how they can somehow turn money that will come off the books while Haas is there eg Arrow, Wighton etc into better spine options.

Definitely was not saying “all their problems are solved right now”. But if you’re trying to win, Haas is a good player to have as your foundation. Would be up there with the five or so best.
 
Newygirl said:
Yeah but how long does he stay on so little money with two new teams coming in?

Souths are going to have a lot more on bugger all money if they’re signing Haas as well.

I guess they just give him a smaller amount for 27 and then increase it a lot for the remaining years once Wighton, Arrow etc leave
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I don’t think Souths will have much of a problem salary cap wise by signing Haas. Some of their players, like Wighton you’d be able to resign-sign on less money. I don’t know when his current contract ends, just using him as my example

The salary cap will go up in the next tv rights deal, 2028 I think it is. That will make it one year where the cap could be difficult to manage for them, then once the cap goes up the Haas contract won’t look so much, similar to Dylan Brown with us. Provided there are no ratchet clauses
 
Wicket said:
I don’t think Souths will have much of a problem salary cap wise by signing Haas. Some of their players, like Wighton you’d be able to resign-sign on less money. I don’t know when his current contract ends, just using him as my example

The salary cap will go up in the next tv rights deal, 2028 I think it is. That will make it one year where the cap could be difficult to manage for them, then once the cap goes up the Haas contract won’t look so much, similar to Dylan Brown with us. Provided there are no ratchet clauses
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It’s just interesting the difference. Everyone had a meltdown about Browns contract because apparently the Knights having two players on over $1 million (both spine players) is a massive problem and would create a huge imbalance in their cap.

Yet Souths will have 3 players on well over a $million (none of which are spine players). They also have another handful on big coin but that’s not a problem at all it seem
 
Newygirl said:
It’s just interesting the difference. Everyone had a meltdown about Browns contract because apparently the Knights having two players on over $1 million (both spine players) is a massive problem and would create a huge imbalance in their cap.

Yet Souths will have 3 players on well over a $million (none of which are spine players). They also have another handful on big coin but that’s not a problem at all it seem
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I think the main thing with the Brown deal was the amount for him and the length of the deal.
 
Newygirl said:
I don’t get it, how do Souths have that type of money?

Even with Keon leaving, they’ve still got all of these players still contracted until the end of 27:
Mitchell $1,100,000
Murray $1,100,000
Wighton 850k
Campbell 700k
Arrow $700
That’s roughly $6million on 6 players

How did the Bronx stuff this up? They’ve got access to more TPAs than anyone else.

They can lose Reynolds and Hunt now they have Pezet coming in 27. That only really leaves Walsh, Mam, Carrigan on big money
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Add in Cody Walker if resigned for around $500-600k and Brandon Smith on $400k and Jye Gray resigned for around $400k and Tallis Duncan and Campbell Graham on prob $400k roughly

They will be filling almost 15 or so positions with rookies on around $150k each

And depth has been a issue for souths for years now too just like us
 
Newygirl said:
It’s just interesting the difference. Everyone had a meltdown about Browns contract because apparently the Knights having two players on over $1 million (both spine players) is a massive problem and would create a huge imbalance in their cap.

Yet Souths will have 3 players on well over a $million (none of which are spine players). They also have another handful on big coin but that’s not a problem at all it seem
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Tbh I reckon the meltdown was more an opportunity to hammer us for paying record dollars for a player, who, until that point and in particular during that season, was playing like someone worth half as much.
 
Les Misérables said:
Tbh I reckon the meltdown was more an opportunity to hammer us for paying record dollars for a player, who, until that point and in particular during that season, was playing like someone worth half as much.
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Yep I get that was part of the criticism, but I was referring more to the amount of people that were adamant that having two spine players on that money was completely unfeasible and that KP would have to leave. That’s more than point I was making
 
Newygirl said:
It’s just interesting the difference. Everyone had a meltdown about Browns contract because apparently the Knights having two players on over $1 million (both spine players) is a massive problem and would create a huge imbalance in their cap.

Yet Souths will have 3 players on well over a $million (none of which are spine players). They also have another handful on big coin but that’s not a problem at all it seem
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They don’t like Newy being on the up.
And anything old Wayne does is gospel.
I figured old Wayne out 25 years ago.
 
There also whispers yesterday now leaking out that Hass deal is closer to like $4.5-5 mill over 3 years, so average around the $1.4 mark , even for a great front rower that’s worse than paying $1.2 for a half
 
You're underselling it. It averages to $1.5 million to $1.66 million. And yeah it's where my brain went immediately when I heard about the signing. Not surprised at all that that's what it took. Mitch Moses got about that too. POS re-set the market.

That kind of deal leaves Brisbane in a situation where they would have to lose a lot of guys to keep him because Reece Walsh is going to demand one of the biggest deals in the game too, and Reece would be priority 1 on my cap sheet if I was them. If they kept Reece and Payne for the money it's going to take they would probably not be in a situation to continue to retain even two or three out of Mam, Carrigan, Willison, Staggs, Mariner, Pezet & Mozer for much longer. Sucks for them but this is kind of what the salary cap is supposed to do. There's a real argument Walsh and Haas are the two best players in the comp (cards on the table, it's one I'd make, that 2025 Premiership squad was smashed with injury all through the finals and carrying more players who I honestly don't think are very good at all than any other premier I can think of in a long time), keeping the two best players on the same team is hard by design.
 
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Considering the NRL gave them no advantages despite the distance, I really don't mind what the Bears have done with limited options.

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He will join them next year in their maiden journey into the NRL.
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No marquees yet like the Phins, they'll likely need to develop their own, but it's a decent list from a standing start with Sorrenson signing and likely Talakai soon.

Those last few spots in the 30, though, that's going to require some real creativity.

Going to be interesting to see if PNG's effectively double salary (due to the tax-free status) can offset the need to live in a compound.

I wonder if Chammas will offer KP $1.5-2m to be the first Chief's captain?
 
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