2015 Newcastle Knights Coach

Who will coach the Knights in 2015 ??

  • Rick Stone

    Votes: 34 47.2%

  • Garth Brennan

    Votes: 27 37.5%

  • Craig Sandercock

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Neil Henry

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Kevin Walters

    Votes: 2 2.8%

  • Tim Sheens

    Votes: 3 4.2%

  • Matt Elliot

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Danny Buderus

    Votes: 1 1.4%

  • Andrew Dunemann

    Votes: 1 1.4%

  • Other

    Votes: 4 5.6%
  • Total voters
    72
Wonder if Benny was ever a chance of going back to the Dragons? Rumour has it the four Illawarra directors wanted Mary as coach come hell or high water.
 
Ricky Stuart is a regular at the pub I work at, Last night he was in with Anthony Milford and Josh Pa'pali and some other bloke. Anyway apparently "4 or 5 guys have gone into Broncos HQ crying over the way Griffin was let go for a coach they don't want to play for".

The idea, which was already widely know is for Milford to play 5/8.

Interesting to hear from someone in the know that Bennett isn't so widely wanted.
 
Plenty of NRL options for Knights in search for Wayne Bennett's replacement

July 25, 2014 - 8:00PM

Newcastle’s search for a coach to replace Wayne Bennett will explore both ends of the age spectrum, with veteran Tim Sheens and Penrith assistant Garth Brennan considered.

No one can be certain which is the best steed to carry the Knights – an old neddy, or a young colt.

The only certainty is the club would prefer a local and a cheapie, someone whose asking price is about a third of what Bennett will receive in Brisbane.

The $10million inheritance the Knights received from former owner Nathan Tinkler has already been eroded to $5million and further debts will probably wipe that out by season’s end.

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Griffin joins six former head coaches working as assistants at NRL clubs – Neil Henry, David Furner, Steve Kearney, Jason Taylor, Rick Stone and Terry Matterson – with Steve Price open to offers.

Four coaches, after long careers as assistants, are in their first season in the top job – Parramatta’s Brad Arthur, the Cowboys' Paul Green, the Warriors' Andrew McFadden and the Dragons' Paul McGregor.

Cronulla’s James Shepherd is filling in for the suspended Shane Flanagan.

These callow coaches could turn out to be successful but the lustre of youth may also be fool's gold.

Some of the veteran coaches – Melbourne’s Craig Bellamy, Canterbury’s Des Hasler, Penrith’s Ivan Cleary and Bennett – have the most secure seats on the carousel, while the Titans’ John Cartwright is slipping in the saddle.

Bennett’s results at Newcastle have dented the reputation of “Old Man Winner” and thrown open the debate on what makes a great coach.

Answer: good players.

When a young Phil Gould won premierships with Canterbury (1988) and Penrith (1991), the conventional wisdom was that coaches close in age to the players were preferable.

Then, when the grey-beards won in 2005 (Sheens, Wests Tigers) and 2006 (Bennett), the veterans were in vogue.

The only certainty is that two oldies – Bellamy and Hasler – are the only ones who can command $4million over three years, which Bennett has secured in Brisbane.

For the rest, given the multitude of riders on the merry-go-round, including assistants such as Kevin Walters and Brett Kimmorley who want to climb aboard, the salaries are likely to come down.

If club boards recognise appointing a coach is an inexact science, and there are many from whom to choose, they won’t pay big salaries.

However, the retention of a top coach is invariably an economic decision.
It’s not so much the sponsorship money a big-name coach like Bennett attracts.

Nor even the additional people through the gate, although I recall sitting with St George Illawarra supporters at the Reg Gasnier memorial day at Kogarah and them pointing to the northern end, saying: “That was full in Bennett’s day."

The real economic benefit of a popular and successful coach is the money the club saves on player contracts.

If the players have a close relationship with the coach, they will discount their asking price, saving the club a considerable amount.

With salary cap space becoming a club’s greatest asset – apart from the six inches between the halfback’s ears – a coach who secures players for below market price is, well, priceless.

If Bellamy earns in Melbourne what he has saved the Storm in discounted player salaries, it is a good deal for coach and club.

Despite the deserved reputation coaches have for their love of a few quid, money can never be a main long-term motivator.

For the lifers, there's something addictive about the job.

It's matching wits against a respected rival. It's watching the marginal player improve his tackling technique, or the reward for the one who rehearses that banana kick for hours after training.

It's taking disparate parts and melding them into a symphonic whole. It’s the collective joy when that move is finally and fluently performed, producing the match-winning try.

The cold beer in the dressing room has been replaced by ice baths.
Coaches embrace the comfort of the routine, which explains why so many are willing to be assistants.

The Knights, closely watching an NRL carousel filled with former first-grade coaches happy to be assistants, should choose a risk taker, someone whose reward comes from the job itself, rather than the pay cheque.
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Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...replacement-20140725-zwqzq.html#ixzz38YUrM600
 
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Beaumont said:
Jason Taylor ? It's not April Fools Day is it ?
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Nah. Just silly old Roy Masters making up fluff to fill his quota and collect a pay cheque. That said Jason Taylor and David Fa'alogo at the same club again would be wonderful. Is Braith Anasta available too?
 
Wayne Bennett said last night was our best win of the season. Sad to think that such wisdom will be missing from year's end.
 
Mastermind coach is on the wane: The real story behind Bennett’s desertion


  • DAVID RICCIO
  • THE DAILY TELEGRAPH
  • JULY 27, 2014 12:00AM

WAYNE Bennett is a wonderful coach.

The more people you talk to, the more you learn about a man with generosity running through his veins.

But right now, he smells.

And it will take a while for him to shake the stench.

Had Wayne just told the truth, the real reason why he’s leaving Newcastle, the majority of rugby league fans wouldn’t be questioning the man.

He needed to explain he was returning home to Brisbane, walking out with one year left on his Newcastle contract, for family reasons.

There would’ve been compassion and understanding from any parent who has had enough of working away from home and their family.

Instead, fans are left to decipher for themselves the real reason why he’s departing the Knights and their ageing roster.

And he needed to explain that the real reason he met with Dragons CEO Peter Doust last week wasn’t simply to drive his salary beyond $1m at the Broncos?

Having also been burnt before, Roosters and Rabbitohs fans can understand if Saints fans are feeling betrayed right about now.

As for Wayne, the truth he says, will most likely be saved for his book.


http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...nnetts-desertion/story-fni3fbgz-1227002592041
 
We could do without 'that wisdom' right now' and let him go. His mind has got to be on the Broncos recruitment more that it is on us!
 
rhugh89 said:
Mastermind coach is on the wane: The real story behind Bennett’s desertion


  • DAVID RICCIO
  • THE DAILY TELEGRAPH
  • JULY 27, 2014 12:00AM

WAYNE Bennett is a wonderful coach.

The more people you talk to, the more you learn about a man with generosity running through his veins.

But right now, he smells.

And it will take a while for him to shake the stench.

Had Wayne just told the truth, the real reason why he’s leaving Newcastle, the majority of rugby league fans wouldn’t be questioning the man.

He needed to explain he was returning home to Brisbane, walking out with one year left on his Newcastle contract, for family reasons.

There would’ve been compassion and understanding from any parent who has had enough of working away from home and their family.

Instead, fans are left to decipher for themselves the real reason why he’s departing the Knights and their ageing roster.

And he needed to explain that the real reason he met with Dragons CEO Peter Doust last week wasn’t simply to drive his salary beyond $1m at the Broncos?

Having also been burnt before, Roosters and Rabbitohs fans can understand if Saints fans are feeling betrayed right about now.

As for Wayne, the truth he says, will most likely be saved for his book.


http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...nnetts-desertion/story-fni3fbgz-1227002592041
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Talk about tiptoeing around the point.
I'll say it. Wayne left because the money wasn't offered for his last year, and he got his money elsewhere.
It's all about the dollars.
 
If he doesn't have enough bucks in the bank to look after his kids by now, then he never will ... there's parents out there in similar situations but on minimum wage, and somehow they still manage.

The media love to paint it as he's doing it for his family, but really, he is just money hungry.
 
Can't blame the guys for taking the money these days loyalty is dead look at poor Mick Potter about to get sacked, Rick Stone was sacked after making the 8 and the stories go on. I look at guys like Tedesco and think what an idiot look at how much money he has sacrificed to 'stay with his mates' grow up Jimmy you will make new friends people may say money isn't everything but sadly in today's world it pretty much is ......
 
To be honest, I don't have a drama with anyone chasing the dollar. If you are lucky enough to be in a position to earn big money, why shouldn't you be allowed to. I'm sure those people surviving on minimum wage would take the extra money if they had the same opportunity.

The issue for me is; honesty. If that (chasing the dollar) is yr driving factor good luck to you, but be honest enough to come out snd say so.
 
Beaumont said:
I've got a 6,8 & 11 yo and I'm in the process of planning a bank robbery.
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For anyone who doesn't have kids and doesn't understand where Bennett is coming from this is all you need to know. No amount of money will ever make you feel secure about the future of your kids.
 
Defender1 said:
The issue for me is; honesty. If that is the driving factor good luck to you, but be honest enough to come out snd say so.
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Bingo. I'm sure if most of us here were in the same position (well, not coaching the Knights, coz we're all Knights obsessed, but coaching another side, and got a huge offer to leave) we'd do the same. But I just don't like how he's painted as a saint for doing so.

ragnor said:
For anyone who doesn't have kids and doesn't understand where Bennett is coming from this is all you need to know. No amount of money will ever make you feel secure about the future of your kids.
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Of course that's true, but he's a millionaire, he's not going to get much more secure.
 
If Wayne is not a multi multi multi millionaire after the money he has been earning for 30 years he has no money sense at all - and he doesn't strike me as a guy with no money sense.

Having said that, i'd always take the money.
 
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