Tim Smith Fined, plus booze ban

What can they come up with this time? after they officially warned him JUST A WEEK AGO, and BANNED him from drinking! He's just an idiot.. ive never liked him either..
 
I've think he's a great player with great skills. The past two years he's been out of form, but 2005 when he debuted, showed what he's got to offer. (Not to mention they won the minor premiership that year) He's got all the right skills with his kicking and running and most notably his passing. And with Joey there to help, I don't see why he wouldn't improve. The kid just needs to clean himself up.
 
Untitled23 said:
I've think he's a great player with great skills. The past two years he's been out of form, but 2005 when he debuted, showed what he's got to offer. (Not to mention they won the minor premiership that year) He's got all the right skills with his kicking and running and most notably his passing. And with Joey there to help, I don't see why he wouldn't improve. The kid just needs to clean himself up.
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Passing? well maby in 05. but last two years? he floats em, he cant even throw a proper cut out. I dont care what happens, but as soon as he gets the sack with PARRA, someone other team will sign him up the next hour...
 
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WAYWARD halfback Tim Smith presented a $1000 drinking fine to Ronald McDonald House on Wednesday - then headed straight to the pub.

Furious Parramatta officials last night decided to axe their problematic playmaker but delayed an announcement until meeting Smith this morning.

The Daily Telegraph can reveal Smith - who agreed to give up drinking just five days ago - had a long night on the tiles and was still at the Tollgate Hotel, North Parramatta, at 9am yesterday.

Concerned pub staff called club officials, asking them to come and collect the kid who was Rookie of the Year in 2005.

"We've had reports that Tim was out drinking, yes," Parramatta boss Denis Fitzgerald confirmed last night. "But until we meet with him tomorrow (Friday) I have nothing more to say on the matter."

Incredibly, the 22-year-old started his schooner assault only hours after presenting a cheque for his abusive and drunken tirade on a frightened family last week.

Should Smith have his NRL contract torn up this morning, as anticipated, it will represent one of the most staggering falls from grace in recent years.

Chased by 11 NRL clubs in his teens, the Runaway Bay product eventually signed with Parramatta, where he was quickly touted as a future superstar of the game.

"I followed the Eels when I was younger and I always wanted to play with Parramatta," Smith said at the time. "So from my perspective it wasn't that much of a tough decision to make."

However, the halfback who had Andrew Johns' posters on his wall as a youngster may now miss out on the chance to work alongside him at NRL level.

Only last week Smith was hit with a $1000 fine and ordered off the drink for a year after an incident in which he was so drunk he couldn't keep his pants up while swearing and intimidating a young family.

"We were shocked and numb," grandfather Charles Brincat said of the unprovoked tirade. "He could barely stand on his own two feet."

Rather than being isolated brain snaps, both these latest incidents form part of an ongoing tale of woe for the young man who was once being mentioned for Queensland and Kangaroo honours.

That image of the laidback surfie who rode a skateboard has taken a heavy battering thanks to his rapidly expanding rap sheet.

Last week Fitzgerald said the wayward No. 7 had been undergoing counselling for 18 months but had "slipped of the rails . . . and is very contrite".

But that excuse may no longer wash with the Eels boss, nor the legion of Blue and Gold Army supporters still waiting for their first premiership since 1986.

Embarrassingly, the Smith revelations came on the same day Parramatta Stadium Trust announced its plan to create a statue of Eels legend Ray Price.

Smith and his manager David Riolo failed to return calls from The Daily Telegraph yesterday.

Another Eels legend, Brett Kenny, has previously hit out at the club - declaring them partly to blame for Smith's disturbing behaviour.

Smith's sacking could have a dramatic effect on premiership betting as Parramatta are equal second favourites at $9 with TAB Sportsbet.
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It would be a shame if Smith's contract was torn up, but he shouldn't be surprised. He's had enough chances, and he took them all.

Hopefully a good team will sign him up soon for 08, and help him back on his feet.
 
Eels' Smith suspended indefinitely

December 14, 2007

TROUBLED Parramatta halfback Tim Smith, who was busted drinking less than a week after agreeing to abstain from alcohol, has been suspended indefinitely by the Eels.

The player remains on contract with the club, and Parramatta say the most important issue is his health.

He has now booked himself into full-time rehab interstate.

Smith has been involved in several alcohol-related off-field dramas in recent seasons and the club warned him just last week to stay off the drink or he'd be sacked.

Parramatta CEO Dennis Fitzgerald has confirmed Smith was seen intoxicated on Thursday morning but said he wouldn't lose his contract.

Teammates Mark Riddell and Brett Finch had urged the club not to get rid of him, but to help him get back on track.

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The kid better not stuff it up this time. If he does, then he deserves to get sacked.
 
I new Parra would come up with some excuse, like K-N-7 they don't have the guts. He desereved 2 be sack, one person can only have so many warning and players have been sacked from so much less. And on him being a good player, yes he did show some great skills in '05, but since then nothing, and one year doesn't quiet cut it for me, its less then half his career he has been soildly good.
 
Remember how we sacked Tilse, no warnings, nothing... although he was hard done by at the time... and now he's playing alright now. I guess the Eels had to keep him, or they have no other options in the halves.
 
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December 14, 2007

EELS hooker Mark Riddell says he will do everything he can to help troubled teammate Tim Smith win his battle with the bottle after the Parramatta halfback was spared the axe.

Smith has been suspended indefinitely by the NRL club for being caught drinking less than a week after agreeing to abstain from alcohol for 12 months.

Smith has flown out of Sydney and checked into an interstate rehab clinic.

After hearing pleas from Riddell and teammate Brett Finch not to sack Smith and learning the Queenslander had checked into rehab, the Eels decided not to tear up the 22-year-old's contract.


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Bedsey_is_the_best said:
regardless of how hopeless a player Tilse turns out to be, what was done to him was unfair and a result of higher pressures.
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I daresay that if you were sleeping in your room and someone who looked like Tilse (ie. Frankenstein's long lost brother) jumped on your bed and started groping you, then you would not think the penalty was too harsh.

In my eyes, Tilse got what he deserved.

Smith is getting away with murder, why does it not surprise me that Hagan stood up for him and wanted him kept at the club.
 
At the time, its seemed harsh, coz he was singled out, but i guess violence against women and alcohol are two largely differnt things...
 
Well according to joey in his book, he never actually groped her, just felt here back, so really that is a pretty harsh penalty. Any we should just a gree 2 disagree because really it makes no difference its not going 2 change anything
 
Joey can become a life coach to troubled Tim
Greg Prichard | December 15, 2007

ASSUMING Tim Smith makes it back to Parramatta after his stint in a rehabilitation clinic, the first time Andrew Johns arrives to conduct one of his specialised training sessions with the halves, coach Michael Hagan should grab Joey and say: "Leave the footballs in the bag, don't open your notebook, I've got something else in mind."

Then he should send Johns and young No.7 Smith away to sit in a corner of the grandstand and just talk, while the rest of the team trains. No pressure, no cameras, no one else listening. For 30 minutes, an hour, or however long it takes.

Johns can teach players plenty about playing football, if they are good enough to learn, but he can also teach players just as much about dealing with life when you're perhaps not designed to handle it as well as others. Maybe even more.

The greatest player of our time finally confronted his demons - in a brutally public way - earlier this year. It took more courage than Johns ever exhibited on the football field for him to admit to his longstanding problems with alcohol and drugs and reveal he had bipolar disorder.

It is clear from listening to what Johns has had to say in interviews since then and reading his book, The Two Of Me, that he is enormously better off for coming clean about his situation. Now, hopefully, Smith will confront his own demons - and as part of the recovery process for him, surely a heart-to-heart talk with Johns would be beneficial.

We all fancy ourselves as amateur psychologists, but if you saw enough of Smith, you wouldn't have to be a qualified one to realise he has a problem that extends beyond liking a drink too much and sometimes acting like a goose when he is on it. He often seems agitated and prefers to avoid eye contact when he talks to you.

On the field, rather than cruise a corridor of consistency, he tends to be either brilliant or awful.

What did it mean when, less than a week after being banned from drinking until the end of next season by his club, Smith went out on an all-night bender that finished with his walking - obviously intoxicated - along the footpath of a busy street at North Parramatta while people were making their way to work and morning peak-hour traffic was zooming past him?

No matter how drunk he might have been, he had to know he was going to be noticed and that the club would probably find out.

Either he just didn't care or it was a cry for help from someone who was either too embarrassed or afraid to ask for it. I tend to think it wasn't that he just didn't care. Parramatta did the right thing with Smith yesterday, suspending him indefinitely while they wait to see how he fares at rehab.

If you think the club was too soft and should have sacked him, then you should get a life. He is just 22, for God's sake, and he has obviously got issues. He needs to deal with them with the help of professional people.

This incident goes beyond being a footballer who has damaged his and his club's reputation by doing something stupid while under the influence of alcohol. It's about a young man who needs assistance.

Sure, the club could have sacked him, and that would have appeased some people. But who would it have helped?

Some people thought less of Johns when he made his admissions. They considered that with what he had done in the past - particularly his use of drugs, although he has pointed out that alcohol was always much the bigger problem for him - he had let the game down. But he went up in my estimation.

These things are not about rugby league. They are about life. Good luck to Tim Smith. I hope he can beat his demons. That would be a victory greater than any he might achieve on the football field.
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haha, they've taken him off their website.... that isnt good news for him.

Eels meet to discuss Tim Smith's future

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TIM Smith's management will today discuss the errant halfback's re-instatement at Parramatta - notwithstanding the fact his profile has vanished from the club's official website.

Suspended indefinitely following successive drunken incidents last month, Smith will have a clearer idea of his future after agent David Riolo meets with Eels officials this afternoon.

Currently on leave, Parramatta CEO Denis Fitzgerald will not be in attendance, but last night refused to assure Smith's return.

"Nothing is guaranteed," Fitzgerald said. "At this stage it's still the same - he is suspended indefinitely."

The 22-year-old did not return to training with his teammates yesterday, but his absence from the Eels' website is perhaps more conspicuous.

Although contracted for another two seasons, Smith's bio and picture has been removed from the player profile page, reducing the NRL squad to 24 members.

Furthermore, his name no longer appears among the career statistics for the current group of players.

Although it appears the Eels have attempted to erase Smith from their plot of cyberspace, Fitzgerald explained the move as being in step with the playmaker's enforced leave.

"It's simply a matter that he has been suspended, so he is no longer on the website as player," he said.

Upon being suspended on December 14, Smith immediately returned to his childhood home on the Gold Coast to undergo daily re-habilitation for his alcohol problem.

Also understood to be suffering depression, Smith spent two weeks at the same clinic that helped fellow Queensland enigma Chris Walker overcome his off-field demons.

Smith's medical condition is expected to be discussed at today's meeting. Coach Michael Hagan and general manager Greg Mitchell will meet with Riolo before reporting to Fitzgerald.

"Tim has completed his rehabilitation - so that's stage one of the process," football manager Andrew Hill said.

"The second stage is to hear more about his progress before we can decide anything."

The 2005 Rookie of the Year will be sanctioned - provided he is not sacked - later this month, with a fine and behavioural agreement believed to be the preferred punishments.

Hagan could not be contacted for comment yesterday, but has publicly backed Smith's recovery bid.

Riolo refused to detail the evidence he will present on his client's behalf.

"We are just going in to have a chat and evaluate where to go from here," he said.
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Eh, I doubt they'll sack him. If he's done his rehabilitation with no hiccups then I don't see why there would be a reason to.
 
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