The Brian Smith Appreciation Thread

Wtf does size have to do with coaching ?:confused:

Size matters little on the field let alone of it with coaching staff and what not, look at Preston Campbell.
Size matters in contact sport until the age of about 15, before that everyone is like OMG look at the size of him. But as soon as you start to get older the little blokes become more determined to bulk up and get on the weights.

Oh And I Think Smithy played for Canberra or St George, most likely saints.
 
I know it's not wise to judge a book by its' cover but I could not help notice how tiny Smithy is. I walked by him the other week at EAS and was quite shocked. He hardly looked the type of coach that would inspire the troops. Newcastle have not usually fared well under 'tacticians'. Our best years were under Mal Reilly and his inspirational persona and coaching style..a real leader that players want to play for. A guy that had been there, done that, (or won that). He was the perfect coach for us and as it stands today we do not have another like him.

We did brilliantly under Warren Ryan, set up our win in 2001 and was very unlucky not to make the 2000 grand final.
 
yup Ryan was a good coach and a top bloke too despite the public misconception. Used to see him out and about a few times and we actually discussed defensive plays one afternoon at a pub in Merewether!He had a directness about him and a commanding presence. I still remember him just staring down some big mouthed idiot that foolishly questioned Wazzas' coaching ability. He bought good players too.
We totally should have won in 2000.
 
BS used to play RL didnt he, in like the 70's? or am i thinking of sumone else.
Yup he sure did.

Brian Smith (born 14 March 1954) is an Australian coach and former player of rugby league football. He played 13 first grade games for St. George (1974), and 17 for the South Sydney Rabbitohs (1975-1979), appearing in a total of 30 first grade games. He also played for Port Kembla in 1977. However, Smith is best known as a coach, having been at the helm of Illawarra Steelers, Hull FC, St. George Dragons, Bradford, Parramatta Eels and, most recently, at the Newcastle Knights.
 
yup Ryan was a good coach and a top bloke too despite the public misconception. Used to see him out and about a few times and we actually discussed defensive plays one afternoon at a pub in Merewether!He had a directness about him and a commanding presence. I still remember him just staring down some big mouthed idiot that foolishly questioned Wazzas' coaching ability. He bought good players too.
We totally should have won in 2000.

He's a really funny guy as well as having about the best league mind on the planet. I love listening to him on ABC.
 
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Smith: N.Herald

Knights defend Smith against 'unfair' player poll
BY ROBERT DILLON
16/07/2008

KNIGHTS officials have dismissed as irrelevant and unfair a magazine poll of 100 NRL players that voted Newcastle's Brian Smith the coach they would "least like to be coached by" for an eighth consecutive year.

And Knights enforcer Ben Cross said yesterday that such polls, conducted on the basis of anonymity, were "a joke" and players should be brave enough to put their names alongside their opinions.


Rugby League Week's annual poll was published yesterday and, of the 100 players quizzed, 39 nominated Smith as the coach for whom they would prefer not to play.


Smith is no stranger to such an unwanted label.


A RLW employee said yesterday that the former St George and Parramatta coach had received the most votes in the same category every year since it was introduced in 2001.


This year he received 24 more votes than the nearest coach, Cronulla's Ricky Stuart, and eight more than his own tally from 2007.


He also topped the vote in a Sun-Herald player poll last year for the question "Who is the one coach you'd never play for?", although South Sydney's Jason Taylor headed that category this year.


Smith declined to comment on the poll yesterday, but Knights chief executive Steve Burraston and chairman Rob Tew both felt the poll was not a true reflection of the man at the helm of their team.


Cross, who joined the Knights this season after winning a grand final with Melbourne, said Smith had "different philosophies on things, as all coaches do" but had earned his respect.


"Maybe in the past he might have rubbed a few players the wrong way, and maybe a few of the players who voted went on hearsay and other people's opinions about the bloke," Cross said.


"But most things I've done in life, I've always taken people on face value.


"So far, everything's been fine with me and Smithy."


Cross said last year's player cleanout had probably tarnished Smith's reputation but "someone had to do it he was just made to look like the bad guy".


The forthright prop also suggested the poll would have more credibility if responses were not anonymous.


"I've been part of those polls before, and when you're in that situation it's easy to just toss up any old name," Cross said.


"But I think those sort of polls are a bit of a joke. I think you should have to put your name to it."


Burraston said many of the respondents had probably never met Smith.


"I think the unfortunate thing is that most players who voted probably don't know much about Brian Smith other than who he is, and they would never have played under him," he said.


"That's unfortunate, but I find him a decent person and an exceptional coach . . . he's not perfect, but neither am I and neither is anybody else.


"We all have our weaknesses. But let me tell you that his strengths outweigh his weaknesses."




Asked whether there was any concern that Smith's reputation would hinder the Knights when it came to recruiting players, Burraston replied: "Not at all. In fact, the opposite.


"When we recruit players, we usually have Brian involved. Being the first-grade coach, it's important that he outlines his philosophies and where he feels they will fit.


"I can honestly say there has been no issue. We have not had one player say, 'I'd like to come, but I don't like the coach'."


Burraston felt Smith's public persona had been tarnished by the media.


"I think that the perception is a long way from reality, and that's probably because for a long time some sections of the media attacked Brian Smith," Burraston said.


"People then just read into that that he must be a bad coach or a bad person. He's none of those things."


Tew also gave the coach a ringing endorsement.


"From the board's point of view, we think he's doing an outstanding job and a very professional job," Tew said yesterday.


"My read on such polls is that there is a lot of tongue-in-cheek approach taken to filling in those polls."


Asked if Smith's image made it hard to attract players, Tew replied: "I don't know personally of anyone who has refused us on those grounds."

Herald
 
No doubt who Reynoldson and Perry would have voted for.. if they participated in it.
 
Yeah it's nothing important imo. Stupid even.
I know everyone here knows the brilliant job Smith has done at the Knights, I think that says enough.
 
Brian Smith is league's Mr Fixit
By Ray Chesterton | August 08, 2008 12:00am

SOMETIMES the Mafia seem to be the only ones who really made mathematics work.

They grew rich from the numbers racket - a primitive form of Lotto based on winning tickets in New York's lottery.

The rest of us mostly flounder on a numeracy-challenged level not far from a perch a former sportswriting colleague of mine used to occupy.

He prized the one per cent he got for mathematics in the Leaving Certificate examination.

"I got one for spelling my name correctly," he said. "It went downhill after that."

Which brings us to crowd figures for home games this season and the upsurge of two clubs - Cronulla and Newcastle.

Cronulla's home crowds, according to the master of mathematics, the sultan of sums, David Middleton, are up 30.9 per cent on last year.

Not bad for a club that was pleading for supporters to attend games a few weeks back.

Newcastle's crowds are up 22.9 per cent.

Of course numbers can be distorted to suit any purpose. Politicians call it spin-doctoring.

Cronulla's better figures have come off a comparatively low base.

Newcastle's jump to 19,511 is more impressive, coming off a substantial base of 16,000 but still behind the record 22,018 in 1990.

That's enough about numbers. Any more and my eyes will glaze over.

What is important is that attendance rises indicate the re-emergence of the football faithful at Newcastle and re-establishes the area as a crucial - if not the most crucial - component of the rugby league out-of-Sydney mosaic.

Few clubs have had the premiership impact of Newcastle. Re-admitted in 1988 and two premierships (1997 and 2001) in their first 13 years.

Last year was the club's worst experience, a record 71-6 hiding from Brisbane and 15th place.

Then Brian Smith arrived.

He was brutal with a broom he wielded like a two-edged sword decapitating the dreams and ambitions of players he discarded without regard to reputation.

It was Napoleonic. It was the most pronounced one-man display at Newcastle since icon Andrew Johns decimated opposition.

With the committee's imprimatur Smith purposefully re-shaped Newcastle to his own image knowing his reputation hung on the results. Depriving Kirk Reynoldson of one more game to trigger a $200,000 contract was grossly insensitive but the rest worked well.

Smith repaired the Newcastle flat tyre, recharged the battery and they're challenging for the semis.

Smith's methods seem extreme at times. He is prickly and has his own opinion of the media (which is fine).

And he stayed too long at Parramatta after losing the 2001 grand final when they were obviously increasingly incompatible with his ideas.

After winning his 500th match as a coach last week Smith can look back with pride on what Newcastle - and he - have achieved.

Smith's ability to install acute infrastructure at a club has never been in doubt. To some people Smith's ability to re-fit a broken club is seen as his greatest skill.

What he needs, and he knows it, is a first grade premiership.

He lost grand finals with Saints twice and Parramatta once. He will not get Newcastle that far this year.

Hopefully, though, it is coming. No coach has worked harder to get it.
DT

A good read.
 
There was an awesome article I read on the Knights crusade website, and outlined how badly some of the senior players acted when Smith came. Quite terrible.
 
There was an awesome article I read on the Knights crusade website, and outlined how badly some of the senior players acted when Smith came. Quite terrible.

they were like well kept, spoilt over pampered overgrown children, from years of soft Haganism.
 
who hagan?

Yea.

Just on that:

Hagan in hospital

August 08, 2008 PARRAMATTA coach Michael Hagan has been admitted to hospital because of illness, but is expected to coach the Eels against Sydney Roosters in their crucial game on Sunday.

Hagan is believed to have woken up feeling dizzy on Friday morning before checking himself in to The Hills Private Hospital in western Sydney, with vertigo the initial diagnosis.

He will undergo tests and remain in hospital overnight for observation while assistant coaches Matthew Cameron and David Fairleigh oversee the teams final training run on Saturday.

The illness, though, is not expected to keep the coach from guiding his side in Sunday's clash with the Roosters at the the Sydney Football Stadium.
 
i must admit i used to absolutely hate smithy but now that has changed!

he is doing great wonders!!! :)

I have to congratulate him.

I seen him in the knights merchandise thingy near the stadium. My uncles like "misty theres Brian smith" and I was like yeah i know, I dont care coz i hate him!"

Man i now regret not meeting him
 
And he stayed too long at Parramatta after losing the 2001 grand final when they were obviously increasingly incompatible with his ideas.

Minor premiers 2005, anyone?
 
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