State Of Origin - Game 2
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Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
Merritt showed everyone why he hasn't been selected for all these years. The only thing I can come up with was he got selected for a feel good story because anyone with half a brain could see that carnage coming from a mile away. Too small, too old, no x factor, hideous defence, thank god we'll never see him in the sky blue again. It's all too easy for him at Souths.
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Max Chapman
Too all you rabbitoh fans out there, can now just officially just SHUT UP!!. Over the years, always talk about Merritt why he never gets pick for origin?? Last night just show why he not an origin player. Merritt only knows how to score tries, but surely doesn't know how to stop opposition from scoring tries.
Queensland were pure class, we got out played the whole night. Im with you Josh Hill i thought Josh Reynolds did pretty good. I reckon he had more impact then our other playmakers. We seriously need Hayne & Ferguson back.
Queensland were pure class, we got out played the whole night. Im with you Josh Hill i thought Josh Reynolds did pretty good. I reckon he had more impact then our other playmakers. We seriously need Hayne & Ferguson back.
I don't know what else he could have done in that situation, or what people expect. Andrew Johns is about the only player ever who could have come on and turned that game, and even he'd have been struggling.
rhugh89
Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
NSW coach Laurie Daley demands full report into refereeing performance from Shayne Hayne and Ashley Klein in Origin II
NSW forward Greg Bird is incredulous after being sent to the sin-bin on Wednesday night. Source:Getty Images
NSW coach Laurie Daley has demanded a full report into the sub-standard performance of referees Shayne Hayne and Ashley Klein, who were yesterday accused of being intimidated at Suncorp Stadium.
Daley refused to be openly critical of Hayne and Klein but the Blues camp remains filthy at their performance, particularly after the first four penalties went to Queensland.One source close to the NSW camp said: "Surely they won't be there for Origin III. If they are, you'd have to question (referees boss) Daniel Anderson's judgment."NSW claim the pre-game interpretations were completely different to those handed out by Klein and Hayne on the field.Asked for his opinion, Daley said: "I didn't think it was one of their better performances.
Darius Boyd scored Queensland's second try after near-constant possession for the Maroons.Source: Getty Images
"We had no ball. Hopefully we might get the rub of the green when we get to Sydney. Queensland were good but I would still like a report of their performance. Daniel has a tough job and I'm sure he will make the right decision for game three."The sin-binning of four players - Greg Bird, Trent Merrin Brent Tate, Justin Hodges - also frustrated the Blues coach."Eleven a side isn't what Origin is about," he said. "Greg Bird didn't throw a punch and was sin-binned."It needs to be looked at. A lot of people aren't happy with it. The refs' hands though were tied."
Blues skipper Paul Gallen with wife Anne and daughter Charly at Brisbane Airport after Origin II. Picture: Mark Evans Source: The Daily Telegraph
NSW halfback Mitchell Pearce questioned the consistency of referees and wondered whether Klein and Hayne were intimidated."They're not consistent at the moment," he said. "That's the frustrating thing that everyone is talking about."In an Origin game, if you are 4-0 (penalty count) at the start, even if it is evened-up, you lose all your field position."If you are any chance of winning you need to go set-for-set for the first 20 minutes with no penalties. When it's 4-0 down coming off your own line it's near impossible to beat them to be honest."Asked was it frustrating, Pearce said: "It is. It seems to happen everytime. I'm not one to blame refs. I would be intimidated if I was a ref out there. It is the same in NSW."Blues skipper Paul Gallen conceded his side was never expecting any favours in Brisbane, where NSW have won just seven penalty counts in 50 matches."We knew it was going to happen, we wouldn't get the 50-50 calls," he said.
"That's just the way it is. We aren't using the referees as an excuse, Queensland played well. With the decisions they got, they made the most of."Blues five-eighth James Maloney agreed, saying: "We struggled to get out of our end. We were a little off and could have done things better but it seems the 50-50 calls didn't go our way."
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/nsw-coach-laurie-daley-demands-full-report-into-refereeing-performance-from-shayne-hayne-and-ashley-klein-in-origin-ii/story-fni3fqyo-1226671101156
- DEAN RITCHIE
- THE DAILY TELEGRAPH
- JUNE 28, 2013 12:00AM
NSW forward Greg Bird is incredulous after being sent to the sin-bin on Wednesday night. Source:Getty Images
NSW coach Laurie Daley has demanded a full report into the sub-standard performance of referees Shayne Hayne and Ashley Klein, who were yesterday accused of being intimidated at Suncorp Stadium.
Daley refused to be openly critical of Hayne and Klein but the Blues camp remains filthy at their performance, particularly after the first four penalties went to Queensland.One source close to the NSW camp said: "Surely they won't be there for Origin III. If they are, you'd have to question (referees boss) Daniel Anderson's judgment."NSW claim the pre-game interpretations were completely different to those handed out by Klein and Hayne on the field.Asked for his opinion, Daley said: "I didn't think it was one of their better performances.
Darius Boyd scored Queensland's second try after near-constant possession for the Maroons.Source: Getty Images
"We had no ball. Hopefully we might get the rub of the green when we get to Sydney. Queensland were good but I would still like a report of their performance. Daniel has a tough job and I'm sure he will make the right decision for game three."The sin-binning of four players - Greg Bird, Trent Merrin Brent Tate, Justin Hodges - also frustrated the Blues coach."Eleven a side isn't what Origin is about," he said. "Greg Bird didn't throw a punch and was sin-binned."It needs to be looked at. A lot of people aren't happy with it. The refs' hands though were tied."
Blues skipper Paul Gallen with wife Anne and daughter Charly at Brisbane Airport after Origin II. Picture: Mark Evans Source: The Daily Telegraph
NSW halfback Mitchell Pearce questioned the consistency of referees and wondered whether Klein and Hayne were intimidated."They're not consistent at the moment," he said. "That's the frustrating thing that everyone is talking about."In an Origin game, if you are 4-0 (penalty count) at the start, even if it is evened-up, you lose all your field position."If you are any chance of winning you need to go set-for-set for the first 20 minutes with no penalties. When it's 4-0 down coming off your own line it's near impossible to beat them to be honest."Asked was it frustrating, Pearce said: "It is. It seems to happen everytime. I'm not one to blame refs. I would be intimidated if I was a ref out there. It is the same in NSW."Blues skipper Paul Gallen conceded his side was never expecting any favours in Brisbane, where NSW have won just seven penalty counts in 50 matches."We knew it was going to happen, we wouldn't get the 50-50 calls," he said.
"That's just the way it is. We aren't using the referees as an excuse, Queensland played well. With the decisions they got, they made the most of."Blues five-eighth James Maloney agreed, saying: "We struggled to get out of our end. We were a little off and could have done things better but it seems the 50-50 calls didn't go our way."
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/nsw-coach-laurie-daley-demands-full-report-into-refereeing-performance-from-shayne-hayne-and-ashley-klein-in-origin-ii/story-fni3fqyo-1226671101156
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rhugh89
Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
Mitchell Pearce keen to get square with serial 'dog shot' artist Billy Slater
Make: CanonModel: Canon EOS-1D X Source: Getty Images
BLUES halfback Mitchell Pearce has promised to exact revenge for Billy Slater's blatant elbow to his face in Origin II, declaring: "Hopefully I'll get him back."
The cheap shot went unpunished by officials, but has all but guaranteed a brutal decider at ANZ Stadium on July 17.Slater's elbow continues an unsavoury rap sheet for the fullback, who has been accused of kneeing opponents, high tackles, jump kicks and late hits over the years.Earlier this season, Slater launched what appeared to be a karate kick at young Bulldogs prop Dave Klemmer as the Storm fullback fielded a bomb.As well as onfield violence, Slater is a world-class sledger.He famously had to apologise to Newcastle hard man Cory Paterson during the 2010 season. Slater targeted Paterson - who had waged a long battle with depression - with this grubby verbal attack: "Go and have a cry in your room."The Maroons No.1 was up to his usual standard during Origin II, telling Pearce after the elbow: "One-all c ... "Despite being placed on report, he was neither sin-binned nor charged because the match review committee deemed the contact "accidental".
Wearing a shiner and four stitches as he left the ground, Pearce confirmed that Slater had also sledged him straight after connecting with the elbow."That's the ruling, so hopefully in game three if we elbow someone back it's play-on," Pearce said. "I don't think he is (a dirty player) at all but I don't think he likes getting hit hard."That's what he said, so I'll have to make 2-1 in the last game. He got me on the ground when I was not looking. Hopefully I'll get him back."He (Slater) is a competitor and a great player. Things like that happen."Blues skipper Paul Gallen said: "It certainly wasn't accidental. Let's not be silly."Pearce was nonplussed about Slater escaping suspension, but hoped a precedent had been set for future incidents."That's how it is. I didn't think there was much in it," he said. "If that's fair play it has to go both ways."There were a lot of calls tonight with refs and momentum swings."If we go back to game three, it has to go the same way."NSW coach Laurie Daley was shocked Slater avoided being charged, saying: "I was surprised at Billy's reaction, saying it was one-all. The match review panel obviously thought it was accidental."If it was accidental, I don't know why you would be jumping up and saying 'one-all'. If that's what it is, that's what it is.
We thought it would have been an offence but obviously it's not. They are the rules."Asked if Slater was a dirty player, Daley said: "Other people might think or suggest that but he is someone we respect."Asked if the decision would give NSW more scope for aggression in game three, Daley said: "I would like to think so."Everyone knows what the boundaries are."They set some hard and fast rules, which I didn't think they abided by, but that's Origin."Pearce stressed Slater would not have planned the elbow."I don't think he would have gone out there and thought he would elbow me," Pearce said."But I have nothing against the bloke. He is a great player who has done a lot more in the game than I have."He is one of the true greats. But pretty much every player had some niggle at one point."
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...ist-billy-slater/story-fni3fqyo-1226671080334
- JOSH MASSOUD AND DEAN RITCHIE
- THE DAILY TELEGRAPH
- JUNE 28, 2013 12:00AM
Make: CanonModel: Canon EOS-1D X Source: Getty Images
The cheap shot went unpunished by officials, but has all but guaranteed a brutal decider at ANZ Stadium on July 17.Slater's elbow continues an unsavoury rap sheet for the fullback, who has been accused of kneeing opponents, high tackles, jump kicks and late hits over the years.Earlier this season, Slater launched what appeared to be a karate kick at young Bulldogs prop Dave Klemmer as the Storm fullback fielded a bomb.As well as onfield violence, Slater is a world-class sledger.He famously had to apologise to Newcastle hard man Cory Paterson during the 2010 season. Slater targeted Paterson - who had waged a long battle with depression - with this grubby verbal attack: "Go and have a cry in your room."The Maroons No.1 was up to his usual standard during Origin II, telling Pearce after the elbow: "One-all c ... "Despite being placed on report, he was neither sin-binned nor charged because the match review committee deemed the contact "accidental".
Wearing a shiner and four stitches as he left the ground, Pearce confirmed that Slater had also sledged him straight after connecting with the elbow."That's the ruling, so hopefully in game three if we elbow someone back it's play-on," Pearce said. "I don't think he is (a dirty player) at all but I don't think he likes getting hit hard."That's what he said, so I'll have to make 2-1 in the last game. He got me on the ground when I was not looking. Hopefully I'll get him back."He (Slater) is a competitor and a great player. Things like that happen."Blues skipper Paul Gallen said: "It certainly wasn't accidental. Let's not be silly."Pearce was nonplussed about Slater escaping suspension, but hoped a precedent had been set for future incidents."That's how it is. I didn't think there was much in it," he said. "If that's fair play it has to go both ways."There were a lot of calls tonight with refs and momentum swings."If we go back to game three, it has to go the same way."NSW coach Laurie Daley was shocked Slater avoided being charged, saying: "I was surprised at Billy's reaction, saying it was one-all. The match review panel obviously thought it was accidental."If it was accidental, I don't know why you would be jumping up and saying 'one-all'. If that's what it is, that's what it is.
We thought it would have been an offence but obviously it's not. They are the rules."Asked if Slater was a dirty player, Daley said: "Other people might think or suggest that but he is someone we respect."Asked if the decision would give NSW more scope for aggression in game three, Daley said: "I would like to think so."Everyone knows what the boundaries are."They set some hard and fast rules, which I didn't think they abided by, but that's Origin."Pearce stressed Slater would not have planned the elbow."I don't think he would have gone out there and thought he would elbow me," Pearce said."But I have nothing against the bloke. He is a great player who has done a lot more in the game than I have."He is one of the true greats. But pretty much every player had some niggle at one point."
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...ist-billy-slater/story-fni3fqyo-1226671080334
rhugh89
Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
Laurie Daley: Ref word appears to be on all our lips
PLENTY of people have asked what went wrong on Wednesday night.
The bottom line is we came up against a champion side who were at their best and we weren't up to the challenge.We have a lot of improvement needed in all aspects - on and off the field - to succeed in game three.Our job now is to make sure we are ready for the decider.The other issue coming out of the game was the performance of the referees.While I don't want to use it as an excuse for the way we performed there were some things that certainly didn't help us on the night.Consistency and clarity are two things you ask of referees going into any game of football. When I spoke with Daniel Anderson before the game he told me there were two areas the refs would crack down on.One was getting both teams back a good 10m and not allowing the defending team to leave early. The other was making sure the markers were square at the ruck.
The adjudicating of those two key areas wasn't the interpretations we were expecting and as a direct result they blew us away in the opening 20 minutes.Again, our performance contributed to the end result, and I don't want to use the referees as a cop out.But I could show you plenty of instances where we were being held back 13 or 14m while they were coming at us from 10m and I'm telling you they were leaving early.This all contributed to our performance. In the opening 20 minutes we were penalised four times and they weren't penalised once. Queensland put a lot of pressure on the referees with some of their comments before the game and I'm not saying that influenced their decisions on the night.But some of the rulings were very confusing. The 50/50 calls are just something you have to deal with and on Wednesday night they didn't go with us.
Referee Ashley Klein. Picture: Mark Evans Source: The Daily Telegraph
As a result the weight of possession took a toll. After 20 minutes it was 83 per cent to 17 per cent in Queensland's favour. You can't win a football game under those circumstances.I thought we did well to hold them to 14 points at halftime but by that stage we'd used up a lot of petrol and it was going to be hard to come back.Some of our players have been criticised for their efforts and deservedly so. I wasn't happy with our performance but to be fair to everyone there were some circumstances beyond the players' control.I have spoken to Daniel since the game and I will keep what he told me between us.This goes to a wider problem in the game that everyone is talking about right now and that is the standard of refereeing.
You wonder if it is keeping pace with the players - and, just as importantly, whether the game is doing enough to get the standard to where it needs to be.Daniel is a man I respect and believe is the right man to be in charge of the referees. I just wonder if he has all the resources available to him that he needs to fix the problem he is now in charge of?I actually feel sorry for Daniel because he is trying to improve a system and it seems to me some of the referees just aren't doing what he is asking them to do. That was obvious on Wednesday night if you take into account what we were told before the game.
*** GREAT YOUNG GUNS
Our NSW under-16s played before the first Origin in Sydney and beat Queensland 30-0. Then on Wednesday night our under-18s finished 56-6 winners over Queensland.Plenty of good people are doing great work behind the scenes with the next generation of Blues and they deserve recognition for their outstanding work.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...-on-all-our-lips/story-fni3fh9n-1226671608311
- STAFF WRITER
- THE DAILY TELEGRAPH
- JUNE 29, 2013 12:00AM
PLENTY of people have asked what went wrong on Wednesday night.
The bottom line is we came up against a champion side who were at their best and we weren't up to the challenge.We have a lot of improvement needed in all aspects - on and off the field - to succeed in game three.Our job now is to make sure we are ready for the decider.The other issue coming out of the game was the performance of the referees.While I don't want to use it as an excuse for the way we performed there were some things that certainly didn't help us on the night.Consistency and clarity are two things you ask of referees going into any game of football. When I spoke with Daniel Anderson before the game he told me there were two areas the refs would crack down on.One was getting both teams back a good 10m and not allowing the defending team to leave early. The other was making sure the markers were square at the ruck.
The adjudicating of those two key areas wasn't the interpretations we were expecting and as a direct result they blew us away in the opening 20 minutes.Again, our performance contributed to the end result, and I don't want to use the referees as a cop out.But I could show you plenty of instances where we were being held back 13 or 14m while they were coming at us from 10m and I'm telling you they were leaving early.This all contributed to our performance. In the opening 20 minutes we were penalised four times and they weren't penalised once. Queensland put a lot of pressure on the referees with some of their comments before the game and I'm not saying that influenced their decisions on the night.But some of the rulings were very confusing. The 50/50 calls are just something you have to deal with and on Wednesday night they didn't go with us.
Referee Ashley Klein. Picture: Mark Evans Source: The Daily Telegraph
As a result the weight of possession took a toll. After 20 minutes it was 83 per cent to 17 per cent in Queensland's favour. You can't win a football game under those circumstances.I thought we did well to hold them to 14 points at halftime but by that stage we'd used up a lot of petrol and it was going to be hard to come back.Some of our players have been criticised for their efforts and deservedly so. I wasn't happy with our performance but to be fair to everyone there were some circumstances beyond the players' control.I have spoken to Daniel since the game and I will keep what he told me between us.This goes to a wider problem in the game that everyone is talking about right now and that is the standard of refereeing.
You wonder if it is keeping pace with the players - and, just as importantly, whether the game is doing enough to get the standard to where it needs to be.Daniel is a man I respect and believe is the right man to be in charge of the referees. I just wonder if he has all the resources available to him that he needs to fix the problem he is now in charge of?I actually feel sorry for Daniel because he is trying to improve a system and it seems to me some of the referees just aren't doing what he is asking them to do. That was obvious on Wednesday night if you take into account what we were told before the game.
*** GREAT YOUNG GUNS
Our NSW under-16s played before the first Origin in Sydney and beat Queensland 30-0. Then on Wednesday night our under-18s finished 56-6 winners over Queensland.Plenty of good people are doing great work behind the scenes with the next generation of Blues and they deserve recognition for their outstanding work.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...-on-all-our-lips/story-fni3fh9n-1226671608311