Sadly it's that time, your team for 2020

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  1. krustykraz

    krustykraz Darren Albert

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    We do only have one established first grade winger for next year in Lee.
    Unless Obi wants to play Hunt or Toa on a wing?

    At the moment our back 5 would look something like,
    1.Ponga
    2.Lee
    3.Hunt
    4.Best/Moga
    5.Toa

    I think we need a big metre eating winger more than a centre. Oates fits the bill.
     
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  2. R_A

    R_A Ben Kennedy

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    I like Oates but he will be asking for too much, that is probably out of our price range and in the amounts that I wouldn't want to spend on an outside back.

    I'd rather play hardball and pay for 2 years of Jack Bird at 400k (us paying that amount) or so and strictly put him in the centres and let him do his thing.

    Also I know we talked about Jennings at various times this year and I don't know he if joined the Sharks peptide program at some point but he's been pretty good this season and notably in the back half of the year.
     
  3. Ethan

    Ethan Matthew Johns

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    Imo Izzy would make Bird look like a reserve grader .
     
  4. Wobbles

    Wobbles Evan Cochrane

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    It's a big no from me on Izzy.

    Can't see the NRL clearing him to return, let alone Wests.

    If the NRL did reconsider, I reckon the Broncos would probably see him as the fullback they're desperate for, especially if they don't snare Holmes.
     
  5. krustykraz

    krustykraz Darren Albert

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    Broncos, Roosters & Storm would be the only clubs the NRL would let register Folau
     
  6. Lord of the Skraelings

    Lord of the Skraelings Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    How funny are the bronco's at the moment, haven't got a good 1-6-7-9 at all.

    Honestly Boyd had 1 good game this year where he was a standout, Milford had none that I can remember and Mccullough try's hard but is awful.
     
  7. R_A

    R_A Ben Kennedy

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    Milford is ok to hang on to when he has his role and isn’t doing the roles of three positions in one game. He’s probably slowed down a bit but he’s still a threat to break the line.
    The Broncos had a halfback who was capable of complimenting Milford even minus the choking but they decided that it wasn’t worth paying a ridiculous contract (which is fair) the team is just worse off for it.

    I can totally understand cleaning out Bennett’s boys like Bird Boyd McCullough Gillett etc
     
  8. mozza

    mozza Game on broheim

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    If a notoriously underachieving and mentally weak team like Canberra can turn it all around and make a Grand Final there’s no reason we can’t do the same.
     
  9. kurtsux

    kurtsux Jeff Doyle

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    Yep, and yet they made it too the finals and we didn't fml
     
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  10. Billy

    Billy Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    Old guys

    1 Edrick Lee
    2 Hymel Hunt
    3 Kurt Mann
    4 Tautau Moga
    5 Kiah Cooper
    6 Mason Lino
    7 Mitchell Pearce
    8 David Klemmer
    9 Connor Watson
    10 James Gavet
    11 Fitz
    12 Barnett
    13 Glasby

    14 Chris Randall
    15 Guerra
    16 Eseese
    17 Josh King

    Young guys

    1 Ponga
    2 Hoy
    3 Star Toa
    4 Bradman Best
    5 Mitch Andrews
    6 Crossland
    7 Searle
    8 Dan Saifiti
    9 Brailey
    10 Jake Saifiti
    11 Sione
    12 Fermor
    13 Saulo

    14 Luke Huth
    15 Jones
    16 Momoisea
    17 Brandon Russell

    The cut off is age 23. Watson, Dan Saifiti, Jake Saifiti and Sione are all 23, but Watson is a few weeks older.
    If Watson had been a day older than the Saifitis the cut off would have been Dan in the old guys and 20 minutes younger Jake in the young guys.
     
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    R_A Ben Kennedy

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    Ricky Stuart has been around for nearly 20 years in the coaching scene and I still am undecided on if he is a really great coach or just a good coach. If he wins a GF with the Raiders i’ll Probably put him at great but if he loses admirably I’ll still consider him pretty good.
    He was able to take the Sharks to within a game of the grand final without the need to cheat with peptides against a team over the cap and he’s gotten the raiders to GF. And on paper IMO the Raiders have had better players in the past and underachieved.

    Struggling with the Roosters after Fitler retired will always be a mark against him but winning a GF with the Raiders against the Roosters will be up there in terms of impressive imo.
     
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    R_A Ben Kennedy

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    Penalty Broncos
     
  13. Lord of the Skraelings

    Lord of the Skraelings Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    How many years has sticky been at the raiders and there second finals appearance even with a win I'd say just good.
     
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    R_A Ben Kennedy

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    He has been there since 2014 (so six seasons) and two of those were playoffs (one preliminary final, one grand Final so far)
    If he does pull it off he's been able to get a Premiereship each decade, which is impressive in itself because there were different challenges to being a coach when he was first coaching to the present.
    His record this decade though before this season kicked off was ordinary, one wooden spoon, one 15th/16 finish and two 10th place finishes with one finals appearance to show for it.

    He royally screwed it up at Parramatta and that's probably a black mark on his name. You could almost say his record since his last Grand Final has been rather ordinary with 2 and now three finals appearances since 2004 which is not great.
    Although both the Eels and the Sharks were a mess going back to Kearney and Chris Anderson at the Sharks.

    A premiereship will buy him some time but in a place like Canberra where expectations aren't as high as Sydney teams he could probably survive doing what he has been doing, with every second year and maybe third being in finals contention. ALthough the Raiders are probably good enough to be a mainstay in the 8 for the time being.
     
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    Billy Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    One of the big decisions the new coach will have to make is how soon do we start working on replacing Pearce?
    He is our best player, and we can win against all but the very top sides if Pearce is fit and in form, but this year showed that he struggles to stay fit over the whole season.
     
  16. Lord of the Skraelings

    Lord of the Skraelings Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    Gee Billy that's a bit harsh, bloke had a few niggles he played through. Hopefully a healthy offseason and he comes back fresh.
     
  17. Billy

    Billy Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    He'll be 31 and not getting younger by kickoff next year.
    If the new coach isn't looking at what we do after Pearce, I don't know why we bothered changing coaches.
    All the forwards and all the backs in the world don't make you a winning side if you don't have someone organising them. Ask Brisbane.
     
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    R_A Ben Kennedy

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    He was the guy chasing a loose kicked ball and running it back 20-30m against the Panthers when we were down by 30 points.
    That’s what a leader does.
     
  19. Billy

    Billy Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    As you would expect from someone banking a million a year.
    But what do we do if he can't get his wheelchair to move that quickly at 32 or 33?
     
  20. luke46

    luke46 James Goulding

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    Cronk and thurston retired at 35. I think we will be ok with pearce at 31.
     
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