member 2299
Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
Junior, players have unfortunately been fatally injured for decades and decades sadly, as it is a contact sport. Most sports have some danger, even golf, let alone contact sports.
Rebuild The Knights
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Billy
Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
Rugby Union has about double the rate of serious spinal injuries than RL because of broken necks in collapsed scrums.
That is why league went to the non contested scrum decades ago, and why Union will have to some day, if just because they won't be able to afford insurance.
That is why league went to the non contested scrum decades ago, and why Union will have to some day, if just because they won't be able to afford insurance.
Junior Eagle
Chris Houston
That's a fair point. I personally don't care if the shoulder charge is gone. Making good hard traditional tackles can be just as good. Either way, banning the SC has certainly led to a change in technique as you've pointed out but rather than bringing back the SC to combat this, wrestling techniques to slow the play the ball down and place undue pressure on players necks and other areas of the body, need to be penalised severely which it just isn't at the moment. Easier said than done obviously but nevertheless, just because it would be difficult to do, doesn't mean it isn't worth doing.
Those tackles were all around before shoulder charges got banned. That's had no impact on wrestling tackles. Shoulder charges were more likely to produce a fast play the ball, that's why they were already frowned upon by coaches.
IanG
Darren Treacy
I've said it before and I'll say it again. This is what happens when you have merchant bankers and lawyers running the game. I just hope the NRL don't put the roadblocks up if and when Wests want to take control. Can't just be a coincidence that the clubs under NRL control are at the bottom of the ladder.
Daniel Ebert
Jake Mamo
Agreed!
Joshhh
Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
Despite some of the questionable statements by Brian McGuigan in the past & the talk of 'magic', I like what he says here, sounds pretty ruthless & intent in how quickly the board wants to see the new coach get things happening & what standards they expect of the players.
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...rship-within-three-years-20150801-gipcwa.html
They've sacked Stone already, so we know they have the balls & aren't bull****ting about accountability. Maybe, just maybe things are finally changing for the better.
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...rship-within-three-years-20150801-gipcwa.html
They've sacked Stone already, so we know they have the balls & aren't bull****ting about accountability. Maybe, just maybe things are finally changing for the better.
member 2299
Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
Still does not explain why no one will come clean and tell members and supporters precisely how much whathisname left us in hock for to the NRL. Some report $15m and if that was the case don't think we will ever clear the NRL debt. I for one would have left the so and so to carry his own debts and let the mighty HSG go into receivership.
The clubs the NRL has taken over were all in disarray, so I think it makes perfect sense that they are all down so low on the ladder. If they were going well, they wouldn't have collapsed.
Joshhh
Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
A few interesting comments in here by Brian McGuigan, says Matt Gidley led the decision to sack Stone & they wanted to leave it to the end of the season but the Souths game was the last straw & says it was the right decision to do it early so they can at least give some other, young players an opportunity to show their wares to the next coach coming in.
Sounds like the board were just as unhappy with the selection of the team as us.
https://soundcloud.com/1233newcastl...-chairman-brian-mcguigan-on-the-weekends-loss
Sounds like the board were just as unhappy with the selection of the team as us.
https://soundcloud.com/1233newcastl...-chairman-brian-mcguigan-on-the-weekends-loss
Kenny Powers
Banned
Even Stevie Wonder agrees
rhugh89
Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
Newcastle board member John Quayle says Knights will have solid foundation
August 3, 2015 - 6:36PM
As Newcastle start their review into each position in the football operations this week, board member John Quayle said the Knights would refer to long-term principles and substance to turn the club's fortunes around.
Last week the Knights sacked coach Rick Stone and Quayle, who was chief executive of the ARL during the Super League war, said parting ways with Stone before the season ended was to give the review a head start.
Quayle is one of seven directors of a reconstituted Newcastle board, formed by the NRL after it took ownership of the Knights following the exit of businessman Nathan Tinkler midway through 2014.
"We're not going to rush it and that's why we wanted these five weeks to do it rather than an off-season," said Quayle.
"We made a decision last week because we didn't want to do the review behind Rick's back."
While players will be offloaded and employees in the front office scrutinised, Quayle said the aim was to provide Newcastle with a solid foundation.
"You can take the Newcastle model [under the Hunter Sports Group] and have someone like Nathan Tinkler who can bring in supposedly the best coach, supposedly do all this and it'll all happen in three years," he said.
"But it didn't and it never does these days.
"You can follow quick fixes that never work or you can follow the Broncos or the premiers South Sydney and the Roosters.
"Look at the Souths model, 40-odd years ... two years in the wilderness ... and then nine years before they get a premiership.
"The Roosters ran last [in 2009] and then go to a grand final. [The message is] unless you're going to be a successfully run outfit you're going to always be on the bottom."
Quayle realised some fans wouldn't welcome the approach.
"The Newcastle model over the last three years [under Tinkler] has been you can throw all the money you like at it and it won't work," he said.
"Unless the plan and structure is in place ... it might work for one year but it won't work for 10.
"The key in all of this was it was never going to be an easy fix.
"The fan says 'our past is just around the corner and it will come back' but that won't happen.
"We have to rebuild to match the top clubs in the organisation.
"Waiting for it to come back never happens.
"No sporting organisation can return to the great eras of the past, you have to build for the future. It takes time to do it properly."
Quayle confirmed Newcastle would go to the market but said recruitment would be in keeping with building a solid foundation.
"We bought [Trent Hodkinson] from Canterbury, that's within our [salary] cap structure," he said.
"To purchase more [players] the financial side of things and the cap has to link.
"You can't just [buy] because you have money.
"You can't go out and spend it all otherwise we end up in the same position we have [been in] every second year for the last 28-years [of the club's history].
"The NRL is running a professional, corporate organisation and they expect their members to live up to that and that's why we are fortunate to have their backing.
"We want to be strong and they've done that with the Wests Tigers, they're starting with the Gold Coast and us.
"They've given us the opportunity and it's good."
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...ll-have-solid-foundation-20150803-giqmzp.html
August 3, 2015 - 6:36PM
As Newcastle start their review into each position in the football operations this week, board member John Quayle said the Knights would refer to long-term principles and substance to turn the club's fortunes around.
Last week the Knights sacked coach Rick Stone and Quayle, who was chief executive of the ARL during the Super League war, said parting ways with Stone before the season ended was to give the review a head start.
Quayle is one of seven directors of a reconstituted Newcastle board, formed by the NRL after it took ownership of the Knights following the exit of businessman Nathan Tinkler midway through 2014.
"We're not going to rush it and that's why we wanted these five weeks to do it rather than an off-season," said Quayle.
"We made a decision last week because we didn't want to do the review behind Rick's back."
While players will be offloaded and employees in the front office scrutinised, Quayle said the aim was to provide Newcastle with a solid foundation.
"You can take the Newcastle model [under the Hunter Sports Group] and have someone like Nathan Tinkler who can bring in supposedly the best coach, supposedly do all this and it'll all happen in three years," he said.
"But it didn't and it never does these days.
"You can follow quick fixes that never work or you can follow the Broncos or the premiers South Sydney and the Roosters.
"Look at the Souths model, 40-odd years ... two years in the wilderness ... and then nine years before they get a premiership.
"The Roosters ran last [in 2009] and then go to a grand final. [The message is] unless you're going to be a successfully run outfit you're going to always be on the bottom."
Quayle realised some fans wouldn't welcome the approach.
"The Newcastle model over the last three years [under Tinkler] has been you can throw all the money you like at it and it won't work," he said.
"Unless the plan and structure is in place ... it might work for one year but it won't work for 10.
"The key in all of this was it was never going to be an easy fix.
"The fan says 'our past is just around the corner and it will come back' but that won't happen.
"We have to rebuild to match the top clubs in the organisation.
"Waiting for it to come back never happens.
"No sporting organisation can return to the great eras of the past, you have to build for the future. It takes time to do it properly."
Quayle confirmed Newcastle would go to the market but said recruitment would be in keeping with building a solid foundation.
"We bought [Trent Hodkinson] from Canterbury, that's within our [salary] cap structure," he said.
"To purchase more [players] the financial side of things and the cap has to link.
"You can't just [buy] because you have money.
"You can't go out and spend it all otherwise we end up in the same position we have [been in] every second year for the last 28-years [of the club's history].
"The NRL is running a professional, corporate organisation and they expect their members to live up to that and that's why we are fortunate to have their backing.
"We want to be strong and they've done that with the Wests Tigers, they're starting with the Gold Coast and us.
"They've given us the opportunity and it's good."
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...ll-have-solid-foundation-20150803-giqmzp.html
MBQLD
Sean Rudder
And this is what is wrong with our club and will continue to be for the foreseeable future.