Origin win or Premiers Tag?

[Ms.Nobody]

Well, which one would you prefer?

Your State to win the Origin or Newcastle to win the comp.

Do I even have to add a poll? So much people blow up about refs in Origin etc (Not this forum, just in general)

My understanding is who cares?

Players want both, but they should be looking at Premiership success! More important.

Thoughts?

Players say they give it all in Origin.

Give it all in club then! Buderus was quoted 'Bellamy is a coach you want to play for'

So what does he think of Smith then?

 

[mozza]

I wouldn't give a s*it if we lost every game in Origin 50-0 nil for the next 20 years if it mean't we would win the comp I would happy with that

 

[knight-no-7]

Ill have both thanks

 

[U23]

Who says we can't take both?

It's way too hard for me to choose though.

 

[Ms.Nobody]

It's way too hard for me to choose though.

Are you serious!!!!!!!!!!

Premiership all the way!

F*ck Origin if we win the title.

 

[U23]

Are you serious!!!!!!!!!!

Premiership all the way!

F*ck Origin if we win the title.

Sure, I love the Knights, but I'm just as much a Sky Blue at heart as I am in the Red and Blue.

 

[jamesgould]

Both are important, but premiership for sure. A premiership comes along once a lifetime for some, but origin wins are much more frequent. Plus you play for your team all year, it would mean more, you'd think.

I'd put a tri nations or world cup win for the Kiwis equal with a premiership for the Knights, though. 2005 tri nations final is the best day of my life along with 1997 and 2001 premierships.

 

[pommieknight]

I'd put a tri nations or world cup win for the Kiwis equal with a premiership for the Knights, though.

I'd second that but swap England/GB for Kiwis obvs.

 

[mozza]

Sure, I love the Knights, but I'm just as much a Sky Blue at heart as I am in the Red and Blue.

I like your passion for Origin it's good to see
TBH though I wouldn't care much at all about it if Knights players weren't playing

 

[Jonno]

I'd love to have both but a premiership brings more bragging rights, like there aint too many QLDers in NSW schools lol. From a players perspective a premiership is harder work 27-28 games compared to 3. U have greater friendships with teammates at club level. the other thing is to win the nrl you have to fight off 15 other teams whereas in origin its only 1.

 

[NK FAN]

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Give it all in club then! Buderus was quoted 'Bellamy is a coach you want to play for'

So what does he think of Smith then?

Bedsy and smith, what a great battle....
bedsy is definetly leaving because of smith, and IMO F@#K smith off and keep bedsy....
Smith IMO is the worst coach to ever step into the NRL... sorry but he just lets all the half descent players go and make the **** ones play and then complain he is losing... i can't wait to the knights axe him, it will be the best thing they ever do

 

[Jonno]

Bedsy and smith, what a great battle....
bedsy is definetly leaving because of smith, and IMO F@#K smith off and keep bedsy....
Smith IMO is the worst coach to ever step into the NRL... sorry but he just lets all the half descent players go and make the **** ones play and then complain he is losing... i can't wait to the knights axe him, it will be the best thing they ever do

is he as bad as Paul Langmack was at coaching. He has been coaching for 500 games, obviously he is doing something right.

 

[Jonno]

Give it all in club then! Buderus was quoted 'Bellamy is a coach you want to play for'

So what does he think of Smith then?

A lot of the NSW players said that didnt they? that doesnt mean they hate their club coaches. Do you want a NSW coach that the players arn't gunna want to play for?

and u cant say Bedsy doesnt give 110% for the knights each week.

 

[NK FAN]

is he as bad as Paul Langmack was at coaching. He has been coaching for 500 games, obviously he is doing something right.

yeah sorry langmack does take the cake for worst coach i do agree with u there, i just completely forgot about him, but i think smith would be better as a ball boy maybe then he will get something right

 

[jamesgould]

A lot of the NSW players said that didnt they? that doesnt mean they hate their club coaches. Do you want a NSW coach that the players arn't gunna want to play for?

and u cant say Bedsy doesnt give 110% for the knights each week.

Buderus said before the start of the season, or early in the season, that Smith was doing a great job.

We won't ever know what any of them really think. I mean, Buderus is hardly likely to say in a pre-match interview that Bellamy is hopeless and has no idea, is he?

 

[jamesgould]

yeah sorry langmack does take the cake for worst coach i do agree with u there, i just completely forgot about him, but i think smith would be better as a ball boy maybe then he will get something right

What hasn't he got right? We are in a miles better position than we have been since about 2001 or 2002, I reckon. This comment is relating to coaching, tactics, conditioning, player roster, player attitude, defence and injuries.

 

[NK FAN]

there is just something i don't like about him because the knights have some very good players but he makes weak choices at the wrong times and puts these players who shouldn't be playing yet or in the positions they are playing for example starting Wicks. IMO wicks is a bench player and plays 100 times better when he comes off the bench. I'm no coach nor am i anywhere close to it but this is just my opinion

 

[~knightsgirljess~]

I think smith is a great coach but he has ways many people dont agree with!
He is the coach the board and management are happy with him, our team are only 4 points off the leaders! Smith is not the one out there making silly little mistakes like our players are!

for the pick premiership please the town goes nutters when we win would love to experience that again

 

[shamz]

For me there is no other option. Premiership all the way.

 

[Deanoknights]

I would pick a premiership for Newcastle way way way in front of origin or world cup glory for Australia. Nsw win on average every 2nd game of origin and just about every game they play so it's nowhere near as special as playing/supporting week in week out and to come out on top.

As for NKFAN's observation on B Smiths . It seems he's just regurgitating what we've all heard from journo's who have a vendetta against the man. Who has he got rid of that didn't deserve it and who he hasn't replaced with much better long term options. We struggled to win fullstop without JOEY with our previous roster now after just a dozen games we have already improved that stat immensely. He has improved the rehab and general professionalism at the club. From all reports one of the main reasons players stated for being enticed to join the Knights this year was to play under Smith.
I think he is doing a great job and if anyone thinks we'd be better off with Hages still are kidding themselves.

I agree that Wicks needs a wake up call and either dropped or left on the bench as an impact player But NO coach is perfect all supporters have gripes with atleast one thing their coach does or doesn't do.