NRL Round 22 - Panthers V Knights - 2:00pm Sunday 4 August - BlueBet Stadium, Penrith

Sarge said:
Yep have had a lot of foot issues myself . Feet are notoriously slow to heel . (& painful.
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I have had a Lisfranc injury myself, so I’m speaking from experience. I have been told that Lisfranc injuries are the worst possible foot injuries.

You are correct in saying that injuries generally are slow and painful to heal.
 
Les Misérables said:
Am I to take this comment as you placing yourself in the former? Because I can't tolerate it.

Speaking sincerely I think club culture is driven largely by the attitude of the fan base. Our passion and loyalty is great for the club in many ways but 'unconditional' support produces exclusively poor outcomes in professional and competitive environments.

If the fans refuse to tolerate mediocre outcomes the club will be forced to remedy it. As it stands, we're keeping the coach, have no CEO and no plan to fundamentally improve the squad into next season and beyond. These things should be intolerable to the fan base. And while we tolerate these things they will persist. I guarantee it.
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I understand what what you're saying but we're playing the panthers and if it happens next week against tigers then you can have your little solkie poos
 
Having Best today would have changed the result. A lot of times Lucas had a half break but couldn’t break through.
Keep Nix at the 7, great to have the extra defence out wide and he can hold his own let’s be honest. Gamble & KP can focus on attacking kicks, Nix can get us out of trouble.
 
Sheldon said:
I understand what what you're saying but we're playing the panthers and if it happens next week against tigers then you can have your little solkie poos
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Yea i get that, but the season didn't start today Sheldon.

The previous two games, where the season was on the line, we played without any effort. 44-6 Eagles and 30-14 Broncos.
 
If JSAF is out for a while, I think we should move Lucas to left edge, KPP to the right, Friz to prop and play anyone at the club who can play centre in his spot. I thought a couple of times KP did a nice bit of playmaking but then the ball goes to Lucas who just doesn’t have the pace or Pearce-Paul who just isn’t an explosive player. I wish KP clued on a bit quicker than was an 18 year old on the other side of the field because he started to expose that mismatch at the end of the game.
 
MontyBrogan said:
He didn't have a good game, but I think you're misreading what happened on the Cleary try.

He absorbed the contact, stopped momentum, and had a teammate (Brailey) wrapping the ball up high. He wanted to pass the contact over, and wrap up the legs - because he's the fullback on the try line, and it's much easier to reset your position in the line if you're the low man. That try is 95% on Brailey.
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You just don't let go two metres from your line with the game in the balance ... and Brailey definitely wasn't expecting it and didn't have a good enough handle that he wasn't easily twisted away from. If he had slid down and wrapped up the legs then we would have been fine.
 
jamesgould said:
You just don't let go two metres from your line with the game in the balance ... and Brailey definitely wasn't expecting it and didn't have a good enough handle that he wasn't easily twisted away from. If he had slid down and wrapped up the legs then we would have been fine.
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He does, all the time - and it's the way fullbacks are coached to defend in that situation. We'd already given up an (almost) try earlier in the game because he got caught in a ruck on the goaline and they put a grubber through.

You said it yourself, "Brailey didn't have a good enough handle that he wasn't easily twisted away from" - he should have, and it's his fault he didn't. He didn't even have to bear the brunt of the initial contact. We're talking about a halfback, not Moses Leota.

Your original comment was that Ponga "just gave up" on the tackle. That isn't what happened
 
MontyBrogan said:
He does, all the time - and it's the way fullbacks are coached to defend in that situation. We'd already given up an (almost) try earlier in the game because he got caught in a ruck on the goaline and they put a grubber through.

You said it yourself, "Brailey didn't have a good enough handle that he wasn't easily twisted away from" - he should have, and it's his fault he didn't. He didn't even have to bear the brunt of the initial contact. We're talking about a halfback, not Moses Leota.

Your original comment was that Ponga "just gave up" on the tackle. That isn't what happened
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Well, whatever lol. Sometimes you just gotta take the L as a fullback and not get back to defend behind the line imo.
 
Les Misérables said:
Put Ponga at the Storm and he's an immortal.

It's not the player.

We play a very vanilla and predictable brand of footy. Go check the stats for that game, a notable one - offloads.
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We’ll have to agree to disagree. I still think he’s poor value. The other point to my argument is that he get injured a lot & b4 everyone jumps down my throat, I know that’s not his fault but some players are injury prone & unfortunately he’s one of them.
 
Steen said:
We’ll have to agree to disagree. I still think he’s poor value. The other point to my argument is that he get injured a lot & b4 everyone jumps down my throat, I know that’s not his fault but some players are injury prone & unfortunately he’s one of them.
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To be fair I was surprised he didn't go off for a HIA
 
Steen said:
We’ll have to agree to disagree. I still think he’s poor value. The other point to my argument is that he get injured a lot & b4 everyone jumps down my throat, I know that’s not his fault but some players are injury prone & unfortunately he’s one of them.
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Injury prone implies it’s the same issue over and over ie Turbo.
 
Yep even with us playing with more effort and ticker, we still weren't going to win.

Today has shown once again why you can't win the comp without a genuinely good halfback.

KP doesn't look himself at all, albeit coming from a long term injury. I actually think the off season will do the world of good for him.
 
I'd like to buy into the talk about Ponga being injured still, but I thought he was surprisingly good and agile V Broncos. He had 17 runs and topped our metres and fantasy points. Then he has been in camp with Qld and they didn't find anything wrong with him.
I don't have a theory on why he was so sub par today, but I'm not buying it was injury related.
 
He wasn't having a great season even before his injury. I'm sure the injury is still affecting him to some extent, but some of his problems seem like brain fades to me, or a lack of anticipation. Is his mind fully on the job?
 
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