Justin Holbrook discussion

Need to look at the training methods, training loads, performance methods. I think we are generally on the bad end of injuries as a club. And I still think the season is too long.
 
frankLauda said:
Need to look at the training methods, training loads, performance methods. I think we are generally on the bad end of injuries as a club. And I still think the season is too long.
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I heard recently that our performance coach has been let go as well.
It would be interesting to see how really successful teams in the NRL and other places manage player loads to get maximum player performance with no or at least minimal injuries.
Aside from that, rugby league is a fiercely physical contact sport so some degree of injury is to be expected.
2025 has seen enormous injury numbers, particularly ankle, knee, calf, hamstring and shoulder injuries.
 
Actually be interesting to know which team has the least amount of injuries say over a 5 year time frame. And buy there performance coach!
 
Wasn't sure where to put this but saw it on X
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Yep beat me to it.

I reckon Keary would be an excellent appointment, he had a long period, honestly a few years there, where he was struggling form-wise & had to improve a lot as a student of the game to become elite. I reckon he'd have a lot of great insight to pass on to Dylan in particular.

Removing the anti-Roosters bias, the interplay between Keary and Teddy has yielded some of the sexiest attacking footy of the last decade, and something sort of like how they played off each other is how I envision Brown being the best version of himself for us. "Keary in a bigger, more robust body, with a power running game" is the best 6 in the game, no question.
 
Holbrook is an excellent choice. I am keen to see Sharpe start at right centre myself. Dom switching wings could be the making of him. He runs best from left to right and his defensive lapses involve his inside shoulder ie left. Marzhew I cannot see being here after ‘26.
 
Just had a little thought when I was listening to Bye Round Podcast with Luke Keary. Doesn’t change too much, but it intrigued me.

In pre season we were rumoured to be interested in bringing in Luke Keary - ends up at the Roosters.

Rumours swirl we are looking to bring in Nick Davis (AFL) to help with kick/catching. Ends up at the Roosters.

Curious if these were Holbrook ideas he floated while there, and pursued when he left with us, and Roosters also pursued.

Or if he tried to swoop in on the deal.
 
It’s a decent podcast but Jimmy really needs to shut up more and not keep going back to the same old things once it’s been talked about. I didn’t even finish it after part you mentioned because, (including the one after) it’s not really necessary to harp on for nearly 2 hours about every detail of Macguires coaching intensity.
You tell me any fan wouldn’t be telling their teams players who haven’t won a comp in nearly 20 years to suck it up if they heard rumblings from people on the outside who don’t have a clue what goes on inside the walls, they’d be a liar.

His insight is pretty good (knowing Holbrook well) but not surprising, completely different to what we have been used to seeing.
 
I enjoy the Bye Round but I did chuckle at Graham talking about a coach making the players buy iPads to watch video the night before a training session and he was incredulous that he’d finish training at 4 and have to do something afterwards.
You’ve gotta love that footy player entitlement.
 
I should say it’s the other dude, not James Graham I’m referring to who keeps talking over the top of things and constantly had to mention ‘we have to speculate that haas and Madge had a falling out’ maybe they didn’t mate 🤦‍♂️
He was like the third wheel between Keary (who’s insight I didn’t mind) and Graham

I know they’ve played under coaches and know what it’s like but again if there were rumblings Holbrook was ‘being a little too tough on the guys’ on the guys but they were well in the top four I’d laugh at the players for even thinking such a thing.
Especially in the first season of their tenure like Madge was

He saw them fizzle out of the 8 with blowout losses to the Storm and Dolphins, yep he can do whatever he wants, and it’s delivered results
 
R_A said:
I should say it’s the other dude, not James Graham I’m referring to who keeps talking over the top of things and constantly had to mention ‘we have to speculate that haas and Madge had a falling out’ maybe they didn’t mate 🤦‍♂️
He was like the third wheel between Keary (who’s insight I didn’t mind) and Graham

I know they’ve played under coaches and know what it’s like but again if there were rumblings Holbrook was ‘being a little too tough on the guys’ on the guys but they were well in the top four I’d laugh at the players for even thinking such a thing.
Especially in the first season of their tenure like Madge was

He saw them fizzle out of the 8 with blowout losses to the Storm and Dolphins, yep he can do whatever he wants, and it’s delivered results
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Yeh Charlie White is the other guy. Not really sure on his credentials are, if any.

He irritates me too. He seems to walk the media line. Eg whatever the mainstream media are spouting, he seems to buy into. If the media think we will get the spoon, he goes with that. And then James Graham will often propose a slightly different view and Charlie backtracks and winds up agreeing.

I normally just chuck it on for my drives or long runs, and normally I don’t delve too much into it.

But when Keary - previously Roosters in 2024 with Holbrook, and courted to join Holbrook at the Knights this year, makes some comments on Holbrooks tactics, Sandon Smiths development, my ears perked up a little. Figured he may have a bit more of an idea than opinions dished up by the others.
 
One swallow doesn’t make a summer, but the roster he inherited is one which should be turning games on their head with tries scored from within their own half, not trying to grind games out and playing scared. That’s the way we played today. I can ***** about selections all I like but the mindset of the team matters more and he has that right.
 
HarVeeGee13 said:
Don’t want to turn this into an AOB bashing, because very courageous wins were absolutely a feature of his tenure too.

But, winning courageously becomes a lot easier when you score 30 points in a half instead of zero. I’ll leave it at that.
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Bash him, why the hesitation? He's now a coach of an opposition team and AOB is leading the scheme to poach KP from our club.

**** AOB. He was an objectively subpar coach and his tenure here was 90% suffering and pain. And now he's planning on our downfall with our direct competitor. Why would the fan base of any sporting organisation hesitate in giving it to a former coach of that variety?

Wayne Bennett cops it harder for a whole lot less from members of this forum. Personal attacks no less.
 
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