Grandpa Joe
Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
Your right just not every play, every game.........
Get Mullen off NOW!!!
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Your right just not every play, every game.........
Jonno....... Mullen and Stig were good today. They gave our outside backs plenty of room. And most of all, Mullen stood up in defence today. But keep bagging him, its a broken record.......Mate you and i must have watched different games if you think Mullen was good today and just the fact that you say keep bagging him its a brocken record just goes to show that people have had enough of him over a long period of time. The biggest thing is he comes out each year and says i didnt have a great season last year but this year is my time to shine but he hasnt done it yet . Someone said his contract is up next year so give him next year under Bennett and if he doesnt play consistantly better with a better mind set then get rid of him but if he does play the way he should be then i will never bag him again.We will probably know by say round 10 because if they havent resigned him by then theyre probably not going too.
He is signed until 2014, so get used to him buddy.
And it is a broken record, I dont care if people criticize his game as it can be warranted at times, even the last month I've been one of his biggest critics.
But to say to hook him midway through the game, or to say that he doesnt deserve a spot in the side in 2012 is downright ludicrous. He is still the most talented half in the side by far, and no-one in the squad has even a comparable territorial kicking game.
I've said it once, and I'll say it again, I'm glad a lot of of the ppl have nothing to do with team selections. Its easy to select and coach an NRL side from your armchair. But I'll bet my life savings on the fact he'll be starting in round 1 2012, but hey, what does Wayne Bennett know?
Jonno we'll all breathe a sigh of relief when Mullen kicks on 6 years later. What a waste.
BTW He will also have a stellar line-up to thank for making him look good because he is not and will never be a dominant halfback.
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Also, I might add, Mullen is at his strengths when he has time. The major thing he is lacking is the ability to make split second decisions, and still produce great plays (see Cronk yesterday when DeGois rushed up on him on the 5th, he stepped him, changed his kicking style, and had a pinpoint kick which led to a try). This is why he is more suited to a 5/8 style role.
The 'wrestling' age of the NRL doesnt suit Mullens strengths, especially when he is the experienced half, and expected to pull out all the tricks. Rush a few defenders at him and he turns to dust. But have the team of the front foot, and give him time he can come up with some great plays. I think Bennett will have him playing much deeper at second reciever, which will give him more time, and we will see less dumb plays. Just look at what he is capable playing 2-3 wide of the ruck with that left to right ball.
The 'wrestling' age of the NRL doesnt suit Mullens strengths, especially when he is the experienced half, and expected to pull out all the tricks. Rush a few defenders at him and he turns to dust. But have the team of the front foot, and give him time he can come up with some great plays. I think Bennett will have him playing much deeper at second reciever, which will give him more time, and we will see less dumb plays. Just look at what he is capable playing 2-3 wide of the ruck with that left to right ball.
Dont have to get used to him mate if he plays next year the way he has the last few Bennett will make him leave the same as Paterson ,Kafusi and Henry
But I'll bet my life savings on the fact he'll be starting in round 1 2012, but hey, what does Wayne Bennett know ......talked to wayne have you....and actually i said give him next year under Bennett and see if he comes good and believe me i hope he does . Also i didnt say pull him off during the game so im not the only one that thinks this way but i havent seen anyone else say Mullen had a good game and i agree that mullen is the most talented half we have and so he should be hes been there the longest and been trained by mathew and andrew , but hes the most inconsistant half we have by far to mate and thats the problem.
But I'll bet my life savings on the fact he'll be starting in round 1 2012, but hey, what does Wayne Bennett know ......talked to wayne have you....and actually i said give him next year under Bennett and see if he comes good and believe me i hope he does . Also i didnt say pull him off during the game so im not the only one that thinks this way but i havent seen anyone else say Mullen had a good game and i agree that mullen is the most talented half we have and so he should be hes been there the longest and been trained by mathew and andrew , but hes the most inconsistant half we have by far to mate and thats the problem.
Didnt say you said that. But it was the theme of this thread to start with. And then many people have been leaving him out of their 2012 sides for Roberts who is virtually untested. It was in not directed at you in that sense, but it was directed at you in the sense that you questioned me as to why I thought it was a broken record, to which I gave my response.
And no, I havent spoken to Wayne, normally when you bet on things you dont know the outcome, and if you do you end up down the same path as Tandy...
And there have been a few ppl in this thread that have also looked at the positives from his game yesterday instead of deathriding his every move. Thats all that I'm doing. Im not saying he was MOTM yesterday (my MSKOTW votes show that), all I'm saying is that aside from the rushed kicks, he wasnt too bad yesterday. He threw some nice balls, had some nice long range kicks that found grass and the touchline (something not many kickers can do against Slater), and was the best he has been in defence since coming back from injury. It was nowhere near his worst performance of the last 2 months, but many people are making out he was totally out of his depth, and cannot handle FG footy.
And whats being coached by Joey and Matty once a month (which hasnt happened for about 4-5 months) got to do with anything? Didnt Joey do speciality training at the Eels and Dogs? That did wonders for their halves.
Also, a bit of an aside, the quote button is there for a reason, it makes it difficult to read your posts when you directly quote me, and its hidden in the middle of your message.
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Joshhh
Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
In my own personal opinion, i think it would be a dumb option to drop him for next year. If he's playing sh*t after say 10 rounds then yeah i have no problem with it, but he is easily our most talented half. He will be there next year & he will play well.
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Oh btw i thought Mullen was going great in the first 15-20 minutes or so, until Costigan's game turning errors, Mullen was playing his best game in a while in my opinion. Apart from bombing Slater ofcourse, but his kicks & passes looked good.
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Oh btw i thought Mullen was going great in the first 15-20 minutes or so, until Costigan's game turning errors, Mullen was playing his best game in a while in my opinion. Apart from bombing Slater ofcourse, but his kicks & passes looked good.
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As far as the quote thing goes still learning so thanks i will do that from now on .....hes been coached by Andrew for years and even more when they played together imagine how much more inconsistant he would be without that coaching. What im saying is that for the money were paying him and the amount of years weve been paying him id like him to be better than not bad as i dont think hes been better than not bad and not bad isnt going to win us a premiership.Tell me something mate are you happy with his overall performance in the last few years .
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Also jonno if PEOPLE are leaving him out of they,re 2012 sides then im obviously not the only one that thinks hes had long enough. As i said before i think 12 months under bennett and then by the end of next season if he hasnt filled his many promises to play consistant good footy get rid of him but if he does pull it all together then sign him up again.
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Also jonno if PEOPLE are leaving him out of they,re 2012 sides then im obviously not the only one that thinks hes had long enough. As i said before i think 12 months under bennett and then by the end of next season if he hasnt filled his many promises to play consistant good footy get rid of him but if he does pull it all together then sign him up again.
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Treadly
Todd Bates
That could be due to the fact that he partially dislocated his shoulder in a tackle 11 mins into the game.
Anyone out there ever dislocated there shoulder? I did in my teens, couldnt lift my arm that day or for a few days after.
Pain can make ya do alotta funny things, like not make the best choices, i think he did ok under the circumstances. Not great but ok.
Im not impressed by his kick choices and did groan a few times at him, but as josh said there were some good passes and i thought he defended very well for a one armed man.
Big game mental strength (belief) team wide is what we need, along with a structured attack inside opp 30, both of those Bennet always brings.
He has had long enough to prove himself and has always had a horrid time with injuries, 3 months with Bennet and he is another Soward style success story or hes fending off Stig and Henry
In this day and age of the game 6 and 7 for the most part aren't as distinct as they used to be but please Bennett put the 6 on Mullen's back he definitely plays better there. And Stig mainly played half so why swap the two seems stupid.
I personally thought Mullen did alright on Sunday, the only thing I didn't like was the continuous bombing of Slater, planned or not, when does that man drop a ball. He looked to hold his own in defence as well. Anyway if Wally Lewis was coaching our team he would have Kurt at half permanently, don't know how good an idea that is, but that discussion is for another time.
I personally thought Mullen did alright on Sunday, the only thing I didn't like was the continuous bombing of Slater, planned or not, when does that man drop a ball. He looked to hold his own in defence as well. Anyway if Wally Lewis was coaching our team he would have Kurt at half permanently, don't know how good an idea that is, but that discussion is for another time.
I agree Mullen is much better at 6 with that bit of space he can be a devastating ball running 5/8 my problem with him is not skill its consistance and mind set he makes a mistake and instead of shaking it off and getting on with it he goes to pieces for the rest of the game and sometimes the next game too.
If he was consistant i would not swap him for anyone but he hasnt played consistant good footy for a few years now and we need a 1/2 and 5/8 who play good footy every week or we will never win this comp again.
If he was consistant i would not swap him for anyone but he hasnt played consistant good footy for a few years now and we need a 1/2 and 5/8 who play good footy every week or we will never win this comp again.
Joel
Touche...
When he is playing 'consistent' he is a SOO half, well at least he is talked up by the media that he is.
Wayne won't flick his wand and turn him into a consistent half. I expect a slow turnaround, next year I'm expecting a definate top 8. I'm happy with that tbh, after what the Knights have been dishing up the last 5 or so years.
Then after a year expect miracles :razz:
Wayne won't flick his wand and turn him into a consistent half. I expect a slow turnaround, next year I'm expecting a definate top 8. I'm happy with that tbh, after what the Knights have been dishing up the last 5 or so years.
Then after a year expect miracles :razz:
hunting140
Greg Hayward
Good halves shouldn't need much coaching, it should come naturally.
Yes and no.
Their ability to catch, step, pass, have a wide vision, incredible reflexes and have a pretty accurate boot probably develop naturally.
How they run a team and where they put themselves sometimes needs to be coached into them. Where they kick at different times of the game and who they kick to, how to break down a team is something you might have to teach a half. Players like Marshall, Smith (as a ballplayer) and Thurston all seem to be naturals and will probably play well under any coach. But these are great players. Some people I see up there in a few years will be Shaun Johnson, Maloney and DCE, who are so young but seem to be making all teh right moves already.
Good halves do need people to get their head straight. Mullen is a good half who could become great. Mitch Pearce, Soward and Peter Wallace are all examples of adequate halves, who are good but if they didn't have a good coach and a team to work with they wouldn't be looked at twice.
anthemlost
Steve Linnane
so by your theory cooper cronk would have been on the scrap pile as he's been a manufactured 7 and isn't a natural one? sometimes what things feel like in games are not what's happening and another set of eyes can help.