Perenara has been appalling.
2013 Rugby League World Cup Thread
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rhugh89
Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
Agreed !!
Just on Wayne Bennett , what a dream coach you have. If I was to pick the one person who I believe could wake the sleeping giant the Warriors finally after nineteen seasons in the Comp it is your coach , I don't even think the six Million dollar bid we offered Bellamy would have been as sure a thing as having Wayne.
Anyway just on Henry , I used to work with his Uncle and was kinda a friend o the family so I have a soft spot for him.
I think I might have posted somewhere on this site that he has been the worst of the NRL Refs , that's largely based on the England Aussie opener when every time England smashed an Australian runner forcing a turn over , Henry weakly ruled knock on England.
I've looked at the 7th Try NRL farce afew times and what stands out about that is if you watch Perenara closely he is very intense and in that set of seven he is too busy bending over with Myopic vision of the Ruck.
No excuses it was dreadful but it stands out as a singular worst moment in his career.
Where I admire Henry is he gets a lot of Warriors Games. When he was dropped by the Warriors and shipped off to the Storm I know for a fact he was really bitter and angry with the Warriors organisation.
He is more than fair when he Refs the Warriors and that's a credit to his integrity even though I know he doesn't have fond memories or regard for Mt Smart .
What you get with Henry is inexperience and mistakes. But there is a core integrity and intensity to his Reffing that could one day make him one of the better ones.
Anyway just on Henry , I used to work with his Uncle and was kinda a friend o the family so I have a soft spot for him.
I think I might have posted somewhere on this site that he has been the worst of the NRL Refs , that's largely based on the England Aussie opener when every time England smashed an Australian runner forcing a turn over , Henry weakly ruled knock on England.
I've looked at the 7th Try NRL farce afew times and what stands out about that is if you watch Perenara closely he is very intense and in that set of seven he is too busy bending over with Myopic vision of the Ruck.
No excuses it was dreadful but it stands out as a singular worst moment in his career.
Where I admire Henry is he gets a lot of Warriors Games. When he was dropped by the Warriors and shipped off to the Storm I know for a fact he was really bitter and angry with the Warriors organisation.
He is more than fair when he Refs the Warriors and that's a credit to his integrity even though I know he doesn't have fond memories or regard for Mt Smart .
What you get with Henry is inexperience and mistakes. But there is a core integrity and intensity to his Reffing that could one day make him one of the better ones.
danielyou56
1997 & 2001...
who isn't
who isn't
Inglis also seems to have many cousins hahah
danielyou56
1997 & 2001...
mundine has millions
rhugh89
Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
Buzz: This is an open letter to the board of the International Rugby League
This is an open letter to the board of the International Rugby League.
Gentlemen, congratulations on staging one of the greatest internationals in the history of the game on Saturday night at Wembley Stadium.
I enjoyed the England-Kiwis match as much as any State of Origin game or any grand final.
It was an absolutely magnificent showpiece of skill, sweeping ball movement, intensity, courage and excitement.
The try Panthers centre Dean Whare set up for Roger Tuivasa-Sheck was as spectacular and as stunning as anything you will ever see.
We will be watching it on YouTube and talking about it for years.
Sam Burgess turned in one of the greatest front-row performances from an English forward in international football.
Sonny Bill Williams was just Sonny Bill Williams - simply sensational.
James Graham and Gareth Widdup showed why they are both regarded as world class players.
Shaun Johnson showed why he is the game's next boom halfback with the awareness, the step, the acceleration and the speed to score the last try and then calmly convert.
Compare this to the penalty goal shootouts we so often see rugby union Tests.
Or nil-all draws in soccer internationals.
You guys should put this game be on a DVD and show it to the world as there could be no better advertisement for the game of rugby league.
People who have never watched the game will immediately become fans.
As for the second game guys, the Kangaroos against Fiji, I can't comment because I refuse to sit up in the wee small hours to watch any sport when you already know the result.
Australia has now won its last four games by a combined score of 210-2.
It's just embarrassing.
The purpose of this letter is to point out ways to improve the game at an international level without subjecting hapless, outclassed opponents to meaningless floggings.
A World Cup should be all about the high quality and standard of the Poms v Kiwis blockbuster.
Instead of exposing the minnows every four years, they need your full time funding, attention and support.
Has an NRL side ever toured Fiji, Tonga or Samoa?
Surely you could stage NRL pre-season trial games in the Pacific Islands, just like we do in Tamworth, Wagga and Coff Harbour.
If we are to stage a Manly v Canberra NRL game in China next year, why not in a developing rugby league country?
Clubs too should be encouraged to bring more Fijian players into the NRL competition.
Give salary cap discounts or exemptions to clubs that sign players from Fiji.
The only reason England and the Kiwis are so competitive now is because their players are hardened by the weekly demands and professionalism of NRL football.
In the meantime stage your World Cup every four years but restrict it to the best of the best.
Eventually, if you guys can get the development right over the next decade, we'll have more competitive countries and more magnificent games like England v New Zealand.
Maybe even a Four Nations tournament with a competitive Fiji, not a side that gets belted by 60.
That should be your aim.
Regards, Buzz.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...nal-rugby-league/story-fni3fbgz-1226767326147
- PHIL ROTHFIELD
- THE DAILY TELEGRAPH
- NOVEMBER 25, 2013 12:00AM
This is an open letter to the board of the International Rugby League.
Gentlemen, congratulations on staging one of the greatest internationals in the history of the game on Saturday night at Wembley Stadium.
I enjoyed the England-Kiwis match as much as any State of Origin game or any grand final.
It was an absolutely magnificent showpiece of skill, sweeping ball movement, intensity, courage and excitement.
The try Panthers centre Dean Whare set up for Roger Tuivasa-Sheck was as spectacular and as stunning as anything you will ever see.
We will be watching it on YouTube and talking about it for years.
Sam Burgess turned in one of the greatest front-row performances from an English forward in international football.
Sonny Bill Williams was just Sonny Bill Williams - simply sensational.
James Graham and Gareth Widdup showed why they are both regarded as world class players.
Shaun Johnson showed why he is the game's next boom halfback with the awareness, the step, the acceleration and the speed to score the last try and then calmly convert.
Compare this to the penalty goal shootouts we so often see rugby union Tests.
Or nil-all draws in soccer internationals.
You guys should put this game be on a DVD and show it to the world as there could be no better advertisement for the game of rugby league.
People who have never watched the game will immediately become fans.
As for the second game guys, the Kangaroos against Fiji, I can't comment because I refuse to sit up in the wee small hours to watch any sport when you already know the result.
Australia has now won its last four games by a combined score of 210-2.
It's just embarrassing.
The purpose of this letter is to point out ways to improve the game at an international level without subjecting hapless, outclassed opponents to meaningless floggings.
A World Cup should be all about the high quality and standard of the Poms v Kiwis blockbuster.
Instead of exposing the minnows every four years, they need your full time funding, attention and support.
Has an NRL side ever toured Fiji, Tonga or Samoa?
Surely you could stage NRL pre-season trial games in the Pacific Islands, just like we do in Tamworth, Wagga and Coff Harbour.
If we are to stage a Manly v Canberra NRL game in China next year, why not in a developing rugby league country?
Clubs too should be encouraged to bring more Fijian players into the NRL competition.
Give salary cap discounts or exemptions to clubs that sign players from Fiji.
The only reason England and the Kiwis are so competitive now is because their players are hardened by the weekly demands and professionalism of NRL football.
In the meantime stage your World Cup every four years but restrict it to the best of the best.
Eventually, if you guys can get the development right over the next decade, we'll have more competitive countries and more magnificent games like England v New Zealand.
Maybe even a Four Nations tournament with a competitive Fiji, not a side that gets belted by 60.
That should be your aim.
Regards, Buzz.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...nal-rugby-league/story-fni3fbgz-1226767326147
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Rothfield must have had a brain transplant since his article last week, he's actually making sense for once!
rhugh89
Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
Rugby league's greatest internationals, in the wake of New Zealand v England epic
Darren Lockyer scores the winning try in the first Test against Great Britain in 2003. Source: News Corp Australia
THE oft-maligned beast that is international rugby league has provided plenty of sparkling moments to offset the epic mismatches and record maulings.
New Zealand's last-gasp 20-18 win against England on the weekend in front of a huge Wembley crowd has put some gloss back on the international game and the Kiwis' rematch in the final against Australia should prove a willing contest.
Counting down towards Sonny Bill Williams v Paul Gallen and Shaun Johnson v Cooper Cronk on Sunday, we've taken a look at the greatest rugby league internationals in recent memory.
AUSTRALIA 26 v NEW ZEALAND 20, 1985:
A match made memorable by perhaps the greatest stink in the history of rugby league. Australia's Greg Dowling and New Zealand's Kevin Tamati were going at it on the field, so the referee sent them to the bin for 10 minutes to cool down.
But that's when the real fun started.
Push and shove occurred as the pair left the ground and plenty of words were exchanged before Tamati exploded with an elbow. Fists flew, the crowd went wild and other players ran over to get involved.
AUSTRALIA 14 GREAT BRITAIN 10, 1990:
The Brits were set to reclaim the Ashes for the first time in 20 years when Paul Loughlin scored an intercept try late in the match, yet winger Paul Eastwood missed a simple conversion to leave the score at 10-all.
What followed was perhaps the most famous try in Kangaroos history.
Australian halfback Ricky Stuart made a break and ran 70m before passing to Mal Meninga, who scored to force the three-Test series into a decider.
Australia won the third match 14-0 to retain the Ashes.
The second Test also featured an epic Kangaroos team try, scored by Cliff Lyons after a kick back infield by Andrew Ettingshausen.
AUSTRALIA 10 v 6 GREAT BRITAIN, 1992:
The 1992 World Cup final was the culmination of a several-year international format and the match at Wembley set a new world record for a rugby league international of 73,631.
It was a hard-fought match and Great Britain led 6-4 with only 12 minutes remaining.
Then the Aussies struck for the only try of the match. Replacement back Kevin Walters threw a brilliant cut-out pass to put his Brisbane Broncos teammate Steve Renouf over for a try in the corner.
The Kangaroos' defence remained resolute in the dying stages despite pouring rain and they held on for a fourth straight World Cup win.
It was also a case of the Aussies breaking a hoodoo at Wembley, where they had lost three of their past four matches.
AUSTRALIA 22 v GREAT BRITAIN 18, 2003:
The Brits were ahead 18-14 with less than 10 minutes remaining in the opener of a three-Test series. Then came some brilliance from the Kangaroos in the 75th minute.
Swinging the ball to the left of the field, utility Craig Wing made a break and passed back inside for Darren Lockyer, who ran the remaining 15m to score untouched under the posts.
With Lockyer having tied the scores, Craig Fitzgibbon kicked the easy conversion to hand Australia a 20-18 lead.
Fitzgibbon then booted a penalty after Andy Farrell sent a dropout into touch on the full. The match set the scene for a fiercely contested series, though ultimately Australia prevailed 3-0.
AUSTRALIA 16 v NEW ZEALAND 12, 2006:
The Tri-Nations final was a crowning glory for the great Darren Lockyer, who produced a repeat of his 2003 try-scoring heroics. The score was tied at 12-all with two minutes to go and Johnathan Thurston missed a field goal that would have claimed victory.
Lockyer and Stacey Jones both missed field-goal attempts in the first period of golden point extra time.
Then finally, after 87 minutes, Thurston dummied and broke the Kiwi defence. After a 50m run he found Lockyer on the inside, who was ankle-tapped but stumbled over for the winning try under the posts.
AUSTRALIA 20 NEW ZEALAND 34, 2008:
The World Cup final will forever be remembered for Billy Slater's epic pass blunder. With New Zealand leading 18-16 with 20 minutes to go, Slater took the ball on his own 10-metre line and thought he could get on the outside of Manu Vatuvei.
"The Beast" had other ideas, pushing Billy toward the sideline and the Aussie No.1 desperately threw the ball back infield. The pill ended up in the hands of Benji Marshall, who scored the try that guided the Kiwis to the Cup in the greatest of upsets.
Australian captain Darren Lockyer was named man of the match before full-time.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...d-v-england-epic/story-fni3fbgz-1226767824672
- STAFF WRITERS
- THE DAILY TELEGRAPH
- NOVEMBER 26, 2013 12:00PM
Darren Lockyer scores the winning try in the first Test against Great Britain in 2003. Source: News Corp Australia
THE oft-maligned beast that is international rugby league has provided plenty of sparkling moments to offset the epic mismatches and record maulings.
New Zealand's last-gasp 20-18 win against England on the weekend in front of a huge Wembley crowd has put some gloss back on the international game and the Kiwis' rematch in the final against Australia should prove a willing contest.
Counting down towards Sonny Bill Williams v Paul Gallen and Shaun Johnson v Cooper Cronk on Sunday, we've taken a look at the greatest rugby league internationals in recent memory.
AUSTRALIA 26 v NEW ZEALAND 20, 1985:
A match made memorable by perhaps the greatest stink in the history of rugby league. Australia's Greg Dowling and New Zealand's Kevin Tamati were going at it on the field, so the referee sent them to the bin for 10 minutes to cool down.
But that's when the real fun started.
Push and shove occurred as the pair left the ground and plenty of words were exchanged before Tamati exploded with an elbow. Fists flew, the crowd went wild and other players ran over to get involved.
AUSTRALIA 14 GREAT BRITAIN 10, 1990:
The Brits were set to reclaim the Ashes for the first time in 20 years when Paul Loughlin scored an intercept try late in the match, yet winger Paul Eastwood missed a simple conversion to leave the score at 10-all.
What followed was perhaps the most famous try in Kangaroos history.
Australian halfback Ricky Stuart made a break and ran 70m before passing to Mal Meninga, who scored to force the three-Test series into a decider.
Australia won the third match 14-0 to retain the Ashes.
The second Test also featured an epic Kangaroos team try, scored by Cliff Lyons after a kick back infield by Andrew Ettingshausen.
AUSTRALIA 10 v 6 GREAT BRITAIN, 1992:
The 1992 World Cup final was the culmination of a several-year international format and the match at Wembley set a new world record for a rugby league international of 73,631.
It was a hard-fought match and Great Britain led 6-4 with only 12 minutes remaining.
Then the Aussies struck for the only try of the match. Replacement back Kevin Walters threw a brilliant cut-out pass to put his Brisbane Broncos teammate Steve Renouf over for a try in the corner.
The Kangaroos' defence remained resolute in the dying stages despite pouring rain and they held on for a fourth straight World Cup win.
It was also a case of the Aussies breaking a hoodoo at Wembley, where they had lost three of their past four matches.
AUSTRALIA 22 v GREAT BRITAIN 18, 2003:
The Brits were ahead 18-14 with less than 10 minutes remaining in the opener of a three-Test series. Then came some brilliance from the Kangaroos in the 75th minute.
Swinging the ball to the left of the field, utility Craig Wing made a break and passed back inside for Darren Lockyer, who ran the remaining 15m to score untouched under the posts.
With Lockyer having tied the scores, Craig Fitzgibbon kicked the easy conversion to hand Australia a 20-18 lead.
Fitzgibbon then booted a penalty after Andy Farrell sent a dropout into touch on the full. The match set the scene for a fiercely contested series, though ultimately Australia prevailed 3-0.
AUSTRALIA 16 v NEW ZEALAND 12, 2006:
The Tri-Nations final was a crowning glory for the great Darren Lockyer, who produced a repeat of his 2003 try-scoring heroics. The score was tied at 12-all with two minutes to go and Johnathan Thurston missed a field goal that would have claimed victory.
Lockyer and Stacey Jones both missed field-goal attempts in the first period of golden point extra time.
Then finally, after 87 minutes, Thurston dummied and broke the Kiwi defence. After a 50m run he found Lockyer on the inside, who was ankle-tapped but stumbled over for the winning try under the posts.
AUSTRALIA 20 NEW ZEALAND 34, 2008:
The World Cup final will forever be remembered for Billy Slater's epic pass blunder. With New Zealand leading 18-16 with 20 minutes to go, Slater took the ball on his own 10-metre line and thought he could get on the outside of Manu Vatuvei.
"The Beast" had other ideas, pushing Billy toward the sideline and the Aussie No.1 desperately threw the ball back infield. The pill ended up in the hands of Benji Marshall, who scored the try that guided the Kiwis to the Cup in the greatest of upsets.
Australian captain Darren Lockyer was named man of the match before full-time.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...d-v-england-epic/story-fni3fbgz-1226767824672
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rhugh89
Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
Best World Cup ever: Five things we've learnt
By Matt Encarnacion
NRL.com
4:10pm Tue 26th November, 2013
1. This has been the best World Cup ever
At the very least, the unforgettable semi-final between England and New Zealand confirmed one thing: no matter what happens in the final, RLWC 2013 is already the best World Cup ever.
Inaugural 1953 hosts France and 2008 first-time winners New Zealand might disagree, but who can argue with Joseph Paulo's face being photoshopped on Mount Rushmore, Petero Civoniceva turning back the clock to guide Fiji to the semi-finals and the great Sonny Bill Williams humiliating himself over the dead ball line?
And we haven't even begun talking about the big games yet!
The minnows entertained and the superpowers provided an encore. What more could we possibly want?
2. Jury still out on Sam Tomkins
It's easy to say this now, what with the blonde-haired Billy Slater prototype busy packing his winter coats for the chilly temperatures of Auckland, but the fact that incumbent Warriors fullback Kevin Locke outplayed the incoming one last weekend must surely raise the eyebrows of our trans-Tasman friends.
Locke has made no secret of his desire to keep his jersey, but then again, Eric Watson and Sir Owen Glenn aren't paying a record $1.2 million in transfer fees for the England's megastar to sit on the wings.
And with many of the Locke's clubmates defending in the front line at international level, it's going to make for a very interesting welcome for the England No. 1.
3. A fourth superpower will be born
Is there any chance the wily Civoniceva can hold onto those boots for another 12 months? Because it seems like next year's Four Nations tournament is about to get another touch of the Pacific Islands.
Plans are underway for Fiji and Samoa to face-off during next year's representative round for the right to become the much-needed fourth superpower.
Whether or not they actually have what it takes to overcome the Kangaroos, Lions and Kiwis is another debate altogether, but none can deny that the next step for the World Cup is to create a semi-final team that won't get embarrassed 62-0.
4. Current Kangaroos defend like Invincibles
It's been over 320 minutes since the Australian tryline has been breached, and that takes this batch of Kangaroos as close to the original Invincibles as you can get.
The opposition – of which they faced the Bati twice – hasn't been that great, but at the very least it takes a whole lot of determination to hold four teams out for that long.
New Zealand, who boast an attacking artillery more dangerous than SWAT, present a worthy challenge for this current Australian team.
5. Burgess v SBW is the real deal
Whether it's Sam, Luke, George, Tom or even mum Julie, the rivalry between the code-hopping Kiwi and the four-headed Rabbitoh is genuine, and the high shot from George Burgess that cost England the World Cup won't be forgotten.
George is an absolute star in the making, and with his more-than-aggressive brothers in arms, expect a cracking start when the Rabbitohs take on the Roosters in season 2014. It'll be a thing of beauty.
http://www.nrl.com/best-world-cup-ever-five-things-weve-learnt/tabid/10874/newsid/75529/default.aspx
By Matt Encarnacion
NRL.com
4:10pm Tue 26th November, 2013
1. This has been the best World Cup ever
At the very least, the unforgettable semi-final between England and New Zealand confirmed one thing: no matter what happens in the final, RLWC 2013 is already the best World Cup ever.
Inaugural 1953 hosts France and 2008 first-time winners New Zealand might disagree, but who can argue with Joseph Paulo's face being photoshopped on Mount Rushmore, Petero Civoniceva turning back the clock to guide Fiji to the semi-finals and the great Sonny Bill Williams humiliating himself over the dead ball line?
And we haven't even begun talking about the big games yet!
The minnows entertained and the superpowers provided an encore. What more could we possibly want?
2. Jury still out on Sam Tomkins
It's easy to say this now, what with the blonde-haired Billy Slater prototype busy packing his winter coats for the chilly temperatures of Auckland, but the fact that incumbent Warriors fullback Kevin Locke outplayed the incoming one last weekend must surely raise the eyebrows of our trans-Tasman friends.
Locke has made no secret of his desire to keep his jersey, but then again, Eric Watson and Sir Owen Glenn aren't paying a record $1.2 million in transfer fees for the England's megastar to sit on the wings.
And with many of the Locke's clubmates defending in the front line at international level, it's going to make for a very interesting welcome for the England No. 1.
3. A fourth superpower will be born
Is there any chance the wily Civoniceva can hold onto those boots for another 12 months? Because it seems like next year's Four Nations tournament is about to get another touch of the Pacific Islands.
Plans are underway for Fiji and Samoa to face-off during next year's representative round for the right to become the much-needed fourth superpower.
Whether or not they actually have what it takes to overcome the Kangaroos, Lions and Kiwis is another debate altogether, but none can deny that the next step for the World Cup is to create a semi-final team that won't get embarrassed 62-0.
4. Current Kangaroos defend like Invincibles
It's been over 320 minutes since the Australian tryline has been breached, and that takes this batch of Kangaroos as close to the original Invincibles as you can get.
The opposition – of which they faced the Bati twice – hasn't been that great, but at the very least it takes a whole lot of determination to hold four teams out for that long.
New Zealand, who boast an attacking artillery more dangerous than SWAT, present a worthy challenge for this current Australian team.
5. Burgess v SBW is the real deal
Whether it's Sam, Luke, George, Tom or even mum Julie, the rivalry between the code-hopping Kiwi and the four-headed Rabbitoh is genuine, and the high shot from George Burgess that cost England the World Cup won't be forgotten.
George is an absolute star in the making, and with his more-than-aggressive brothers in arms, expect a cracking start when the Rabbitohs take on the Roosters in season 2014. It'll be a thing of beauty.
http://www.nrl.com/best-world-cup-ever-five-things-weve-learnt/tabid/10874/newsid/75529/default.aspx
rhugh89
Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
Outside the big 3 Fiji are the next best by a fair margin imo...
They have NRL players left right and centre and play an exciting brand of Footy that will put bums on seats !!
They should receive a spot in the 4 nations and maybe we could have a double header for the ANZAC Test or something ??
Australia vs NZ and Fiji vs Tonga or Samoa ??
Junior11
Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
Yeah I was pretty shocked they played Darryl at 5/8, if anything he should've played off the bench I thought. Sutton and Groom sounds pretty good. Storer surely won't be going round for too much longer lol so I'm assuming Koroisai will be their full time hooker unless someone better comes along.