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Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
Don't see Maloney sitting out a year!
Rumour: Knights looking at Maloney
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Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
Newcastle Knights recruitment failures fail to faze coach Nathan Brown
BARRY TOOHEY, The Sunday Telegraph
May 27, 2017 6:30pm
THEIR targets have included some of the game’s biggest names — Kieran Foran, Matt Scott, James Graham and Jack Bird.
Melbourne Storm’s Dale Finucane had a look around the club’s facilities. Likewise Matt Prior, who was offered a good deal to leave the Sharks.
Ben Matulino was spoken to and Cooper Cronk sounded out. An offer was in for Shaun Kenny-Dowall before it was withdrawn following his arrest for alleged cocaine possession.
And they are just the players we know about.
Despite being armed with a $3 million war chest for next season, the battling Newcastle Knights have so far struck out in their bid to land a recruitment blow since the signing of Cowboys wunderkind Kalyn Ponga last November.
And just to rub salt into those wounds, their only Origin player, Dane Gagai, is on his way out the back door at the end of the season after quitting the club for South Sydney.
All of which has everyone more than a little nervous about the club’s future and ability to climb out of the NRL cellar.
Everyone, that is, except the two men at the Knights with the most to lose if they don’t — coach Nathan Brown and recruitment boss Darren Mooney.
Brown, who has already won a wooden spoon and is heavily favoured to win another, is off contract at the end of 2018. How many coaches have survived two consecutive wooden spoon seasons?
Yet the unflappable Brown, with just three wins in the past season and a half, remains committed to and confident of his process in rebuilding the club from the ground up, even if it leaves his own position vulnerable.
“When I took the job, it was about the long-term plan rather than the short-term fix because there was no choice,” Brown said.
“Nothing has changed. It is not about worrying what people think. It is about sticking to the strategy.
“It is about developing our own and bringing in the right type of player and the right type of person. At the moment, the right type of players — the players we have identified to take us forward the quickest — haven’t wanted to come, apart from Kalyn.
“It’s a leap of faith because of where we are and where we have been and we don’t have the third-party resources most other clubs have.
“But no one can deny we are in a far stronger position now than we were 12 months ago as far as competitiveness goes with a squad not too dissimilar to what we started with back then.
“And we’ll continue to build.”
When Mooney arrived at the Knights early last year, the club couldn’t afford to sign a single player because they were still in the process of repairing a cap that had blown out by as much as $700,000.
Chris Houston, Adam Clydsdale and Joe Tapine were shopped to other clubs before a ball was kicked and Brown was forced to blood 11 rookies last season and decided to let others like Tariq Sims and his brother Korbin leave mid-contract with the aim of creating space in the cap to recruit the right players.
The strategy has been painful but with $3 million now in the kitty following Jarrod Mullen’s drugs ban, the money is there to improve the roster and ensure the majority, if not all, the best young players at the club are signed longer term.
The only question now is who will come.
“We are definitely going to add quality players to our roster. It is just going to be who and when, but we are not going to rush around and panic buy,” Mooney said.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...n/news-story/205919c5eee06009cf06495163ec690b
BARRY TOOHEY, The Sunday Telegraph
May 27, 2017 6:30pm
THEIR targets have included some of the game’s biggest names — Kieran Foran, Matt Scott, James Graham and Jack Bird.
Melbourne Storm’s Dale Finucane had a look around the club’s facilities. Likewise Matt Prior, who was offered a good deal to leave the Sharks.
Ben Matulino was spoken to and Cooper Cronk sounded out. An offer was in for Shaun Kenny-Dowall before it was withdrawn following his arrest for alleged cocaine possession.
And they are just the players we know about.
Despite being armed with a $3 million war chest for next season, the battling Newcastle Knights have so far struck out in their bid to land a recruitment blow since the signing of Cowboys wunderkind Kalyn Ponga last November.
And just to rub salt into those wounds, their only Origin player, Dane Gagai, is on his way out the back door at the end of the season after quitting the club for South Sydney.
All of which has everyone more than a little nervous about the club’s future and ability to climb out of the NRL cellar.
Everyone, that is, except the two men at the Knights with the most to lose if they don’t — coach Nathan Brown and recruitment boss Darren Mooney.
Brown, who has already won a wooden spoon and is heavily favoured to win another, is off contract at the end of 2018. How many coaches have survived two consecutive wooden spoon seasons?
Yet the unflappable Brown, with just three wins in the past season and a half, remains committed to and confident of his process in rebuilding the club from the ground up, even if it leaves his own position vulnerable.
“When I took the job, it was about the long-term plan rather than the short-term fix because there was no choice,” Brown said.
“Nothing has changed. It is not about worrying what people think. It is about sticking to the strategy.
“It is about developing our own and bringing in the right type of player and the right type of person. At the moment, the right type of players — the players we have identified to take us forward the quickest — haven’t wanted to come, apart from Kalyn.
“It’s a leap of faith because of where we are and where we have been and we don’t have the third-party resources most other clubs have.
“But no one can deny we are in a far stronger position now than we were 12 months ago as far as competitiveness goes with a squad not too dissimilar to what we started with back then.
“And we’ll continue to build.”
When Mooney arrived at the Knights early last year, the club couldn’t afford to sign a single player because they were still in the process of repairing a cap that had blown out by as much as $700,000.
Chris Houston, Adam Clydsdale and Joe Tapine were shopped to other clubs before a ball was kicked and Brown was forced to blood 11 rookies last season and decided to let others like Tariq Sims and his brother Korbin leave mid-contract with the aim of creating space in the cap to recruit the right players.
The strategy has been painful but with $3 million now in the kitty following Jarrod Mullen’s drugs ban, the money is there to improve the roster and ensure the majority, if not all, the best young players at the club are signed longer term.
The only question now is who will come.
“We are definitely going to add quality players to our roster. It is just going to be who and when, but we are not going to rush around and panic buy,” Mooney said.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...n/news-story/205919c5eee06009cf06495163ec690b
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Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
Also seems Souths are going after Maloney as well now!
They will need to drop a couple of guys soon enough..... Musgrove please
bateupaidan
Cameron Ciraldo
James Maloney. Get him at any price. Don't care. Our money has to be thrown at this guy. Rest will follow
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Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
Plus, Maloney is contracted.
Would absolutely love to get Maloney but like everyone has said I don't he will leave Sydney. We should be really going hard for Connor Watson. although wouldn't add much experience but a spine of Ponga, Watson, Lamb and Levi would have this club on the right path for many many years to come. Add some forwards and a strike centre.
danknights
Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
I'd uproot for double all day everyday. Once he learns newy isn't a bad place to bring up a family. You have to look at the bigger picture when deciding on a place to live potentially stay. Jobs available after footy etc. Lifestyle. All those things. If he can't do that then that's totally up too Maloney. Young blokes don't really have much choice. If you want a decent payday you gotta go.
Grandpa Joe
Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
How much longer will Maloney play for is another factor? 2-3 years, for such a short period of time for a bloke that's already very comfortable would you want to move? Don't forget he will have opportunities in the media and or coaching post career, his a popular fella.
Why move to Newie and run the huge risk of damaging his profile.
Kurriboy
Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
The real question is how much will it take to get Maloney here. Maybe he has no interest in coming here, or leaving Sydney at all.
No amount of money is going to change his mind if he is dead against coming here. If we throw stupid money at him to change his mind, sure, that may encourage other very good players to consider us, but I would bet they would be sniffing for that similar stupid money offer Maloney got.
No amount of money is going to change his mind if he is dead against coming here. If we throw stupid money at him to change his mind, sure, that may encourage other very good players to consider us, but I would bet they would be sniffing for that similar stupid money offer Maloney got.
88Knight4life
Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
Id be happy with 1-1.2mil anything over 1.3 is to much.
His a leader and makes others around him better! What more in a half can u want?
His got 4yrs in him as well imo, his a tactical player who doesnt seem to be running himself into the ground every week.
Id offer 4.5mil for 4yrs and see what interest he shows.
Then id get gids to have a chat with matty johns and see if he can get a role on the matty johns show.
Thats a enticing offer he wont get twice.
Chief Longhorn
Logan Campbell
Apparently the Rabbit's are the club interested in Maloney! Just to make it a little bit harder to entice him out of Sydney!
Dane Gaigai said he loves Newcastle, bought his family, and brother here, even helped tour potential recruits around Newcastle showing them his favourite spots, and yet...
dalpretzel
Dan Tolar
I believe the knights recruitment drive should be the following deals tied in with the west buying the knights to give them sustainability
Guerra - 900k 2yrs
Cronk - 3.2M 2yrs
Graham - 1.9M 2yrs
Klemmer - 3.2M 4yrs
Ponga - what ever he's getting
Ferguson - 1M 2yrs
Watson - 2M 4yrs
Gutherson - 3.2M 4yrs
Hess - 2.6 - 3yrs
Next year we would spend all the cap on new deals, hopefully west purchase knights and bring tpa and enough swag to put this together. The way knights need to recruit is not only selling the town but a chance a winning a championship. Convince all above that if they sign the others will sign and fly them all in at the same time and push that we would be able contenders next year plus paying them a pretty penny.
Wishful thinking I guess
Guerra - 900k 2yrs
Cronk - 3.2M 2yrs
Graham - 1.9M 2yrs
Klemmer - 3.2M 4yrs
Ponga - what ever he's getting
Ferguson - 1M 2yrs
Watson - 2M 4yrs
Gutherson - 3.2M 4yrs
Hess - 2.6 - 3yrs
Next year we would spend all the cap on new deals, hopefully west purchase knights and bring tpa and enough swag to put this together. The way knights need to recruit is not only selling the town but a chance a winning a championship. Convince all above that if they sign the others will sign and fly them all in at the same time and push that we would be able contenders next year plus paying them a pretty penny.
Wishful thinking I guess
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Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
Cronk - wants to live in Sydney
Graham - contracted
Klemmer - contracted
Watson - contracted
Gutherson - contracted
Hess - contracted
Graham - contracted
Klemmer - contracted
Watson - contracted
Gutherson - contracted
Hess - contracted
Grandpa Joe
Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
Doing an 88 hearing from a mate, with a very good contact will not elaborate believe or don't believe.
We have a great offer on the table for Maloney and is only pending a release from Sharks which his manager is confident on getting. Would be quite ironic after I listed all the reasons he would not come here.
We have a great offer on the table for Maloney and is only pending a release from Sharks which his manager is confident on getting. Would be quite ironic after I listed all the reasons he would not come here.
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Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
Cant beat em join em ay?
Jimmy would be great, though i cant see the sharks releasing him while under contract... way to valuable a player to let walk early.