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frankLauda

frankLauda

Ben Kennedy
Well boredom has hit me this bye round so I thought I would ask the question of what most people think of the footy this year with the new rules?

There’s been a few current and ex-players saying they are not enjoying the game currently as much.

I have to agree. Great we are one of the teams that have adapted quickly to the rules but I’m not big fan of bigger score lines.

The rule with the six again in the opposition 20 I liked. But now it’s the 40 I don’t. If feel the ref can influence the game. Sure we need to control the ruck but the refs need to get a feel for the game and try to create a game where both teams flow. At the moment it’s black and white, teams or player don’t get warnings. Were if it was a penalty the refs can explain what the team is doing.

I understand also head highs, “late” hits are much more sticker. I get we are trying to protect the players but I also think they are to strick/ridgid in the calls.

So yeah they probably won’t reverse the six agains up to the footy but I think the refs can be a bit more forgiving on some calls and let the game flow.

Be interesting to see how SOO is reffed next week. But for me I don’t enjoy the games as much atm. I prefer to see a closer contest.
 
I thought in the 6 again era it was at it's best last year. Had a good balance of teams being able to score points but also wrestle momentum.

PVL and his crew got too cute with the 6 again rule and teams scoring points and has overdone this year worse than in 2021. Every game I have punted on this year except any Bulldogs game I have gone overs every time, that's how predictable it is.

Bunker calls have been awful at times and still baffled how Robert Toia's "try" was allowed by the bunker a few weeks back

Cameron Munster and Jahrome Hughes have both admitted it's been harder to watch the games this year and haven't as many as they would in previous seasons.
 
Celticman98 said:
I thought in the 6 again era it was at it's best last year. Had a good balance of teams being able to score points but also wrestle momentum.

PVL and his crew got too cute with the 6 again rule and teams scoring points and has overdone this year worse than in 2021. Every game I have punted on this year except any Bulldogs game I have gone overs every time, that's how predictable it is.

Bunker calls have been awful at times and still baffled how Robert Toia's "try" was allowed by the bunker a few weeks back

Cameron Munster and Jahrome Hughes have both admitted it's been harder to watch the games this year and haven't as many as they would in previous seasons.
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Munster and Hughes aren't enjoying it because they were getting beat. Ask them in 5-6 weeks of they win more games and see what they say. Winning changes mindset.
 
My thoughts too. Only teams complaining about the current rules are the ones who are losing.

Ricky didn’t mind it early on and then after losing to an understrength dolphins, has a sook in the press conference
 
Magic Round was a total bludger. Not sure how much that was to do with the new rules or if it was the mismatch’s.

The new rules generally have skewed the game way too much towards the attacking team. Quality Rugby League has good attack and defence. In some games the ruck is that fast it resembles touch footy and is a direct reason for the increased amount of soft tissue injuries. Sure our game against the Bunnies had excitement but it was a joke that a side can concede 38 points and win. It wasn’t proper Rugby League.

The most annoying part is that the game had found the right balance the last 3 or so seasons after the initial changes made a joke of the game in 2021. Having people in charge of the game about don’t know much about the sport itself is having an adverse effect now and the PVL apologists in the media are too cowardly or stupid to call it out.
 
Complaining while losing has a lot of reasons behind it, yes the rules might actually suck but more likely it’s used as a way to push away blame and even lower standards.

(1) it’s easier to lower standards than raise them, so by complaining you hope others will complain and than instead of being forced to meet those standards, you actually bring it down back to where you like it.

(2) What I call the “Ricky Tactic” you complain about rules and refs to hide the fact you aren’t doing your job as an elite coach which is to adapt and change to be the best you can under any rule change or circumstance, Ricky does this almost exclusively.

It’s self indulgent, losers make excuses because it’s easier to complain and make out it isn’t your fault than to meet a new standard, especially if you are already comfortable in an old format.

Like others have said winning changes mentality because once you start winning you pray it never ends and are happy the others haven’t found the way forward and don’t want to move back again, since suddenly you are gaining from said rule change or circumstance.

My personal opinion, I don’t feel sorry for any one of them as coaches or players, you are paid as elite players and coaches, if you can’t meet new standards and can’t adapt than you aren’t elite and don’t deserve the paycheque.
 
Having losing teams winge and complain, I’m not overly concerned. I’m just talking about from a fans POV. I think most of us on here want it back to what it was the last couple of years. But you never know teams/coaches may adapt again to work out how to swing momentum back. I’ve heard in Knights players interviews, Croker for instance saying we are trying to work out how to swing momentum back when it’s against you.
 
The worst part of the new rules is half the refs are trying to ignore them as much as they can, and the other half are trying to enforce them as much as they can, and none of them are really comfortable with the rules, so they are having to think about them too much.

I think it will settle down by the end of the season.
 
So how do we understand them, the rules, better than them when we haven’t been so involved or is most complaints based on our lack of knowledge and disappointment at losing in unresolved situations.
Rule changes create confusion, if it gives us games, wins we are happy, if it creates loses we are upset, angry,, then next week the decisions seem to go the other way and we are happy, we win.
Unfortunately it’s part of the game, a few bad decisions either way and the winners are happy and the losers are sad, upset and angry but ok next week when decisions go our way
 
I agree with the original premise of the thread, I think the speed of the game has tipped too far to advantage the attacking team. Blow-outs are way too regular. Injuries are up meaning we aren't seeing the best players on the field regularly. Momentum has become a self-fulfilling commodity, if you have it you are more likely to receive 6 agains which create more momentum.

I have seen the pendulum swing between attack and defence through many eras in rugby league. I think the balance was much better last year. I also think we are seeing better footy then a lot of the 2010s. What i fear most is the nrls remedy to everyone's complaints will be the kick off is taken by the scoring team. It might help current circumstances to a degree but will make the game look very different when the pendulum swings back. I'm with Billy, we don't need more rule changes, the game will sort itself out as refs adjust their interpretations.
 
On the kick off point. Maybe they was method to the man's in the proposed role to pick who kicks off. Though really, going back to attacking 20m 6 agains is the better answer
 
Two factors to restore order put it back to six agains in the 20, and the refs adjusting interpretations. Now weather they change the rule back is doubtful I do feel we will see the refs rein it in during Origin and the back end of the season.

Imagine if there’s a blow out in Origin and one side is getting all the six agains. I don’t think that will go down well. I just can’t see that happening.
 
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