Our next head coach

Who should be the head coach in 2026?

  • Blake Green

    Votes: 5 5.9%
  • Brian McDermott

    Votes: 14 16.5%
  • Brad Arthur

    Votes: 13 15.3%
  • Willie Peters

    Votes: 40 47.1%
  • John Morris

    Votes: 18 21.2%
  • Justin Holbrook

    Votes: 42 49.4%
  • Des Hasler

    Votes: 1 1.2%
  • Sam Burgess

    Votes: 1 1.2%
  • Billy Slater

    Votes: 6 7.1%
  • Other (name below)

    Votes: 1 1.2%

  • Total voters
    85
Genuine question for those who want Smith 7 and Brown 6. I have no doubt Brown was talked to about being the on ball 7 here. And i can genuinely see why people would want Smith in that role and have reservations about Brown doing that.

But the issue then becomes, as a 6, the left side is Brown's sweet spot. It is also Ponga's sweet spot. In the past, our right side attack has been neglected in favour of the left. What is the structure if Brown plays 6? Do we have both our 1 million dollar stars on the left (Ponga sweeping both sides)? That leaves Smith posted on the right and weakens that side. Or does Smith play on ball and either Brown or Ponga plays on there weaker right side?
 
Been waiting for this Owey, understand where you’ve been coming from a lot better now. 😊

The short answer is “yes”, if there’s a ‘go to’ thing I think our attack should be about, it’s opening up the left side of the field as much as possible, with Dylan Brown going into the line with options on his outside, Ponga sweeping around, in a variety of shapes and combinations. I don’t believe in a “Melbourne style” attacking system with the personnel we have. I think stylistically, teams like Souths, Easts and Parramatta make more sense as a general guide for what we should be looking to do. Obviously you don’t just attack one side of the field and that’s it but knowing in advance Souths were looking to set up Cody & Latrell on the left didn’t ever seem to make them particularly easy to stop.

I would look to play with a split field, Brown left, Smith right, as a general rule, but with alternation of which half is on the 1st & 2nd layer, and both Brown & Smith flipping over to act as the second receiver/sweeper depending on what looks the defensive line is giving them etc. The two of them are both very familiar with playing in this way. Visions of Ponga set up on the left with a wide 4-on-4 short side with Brown set to swing around Smith’s outside on the right, or Brown set up on the short side with Ponga looking to sweep, etc. I don’t think either Brown or Smith should be “on the ball”, if anything I’d want Brown ending most games with more ball receipts than Smith because if he hasn’t tested the line with his running game 10-15 times per game I’m not happy with his performance.

I actually don’t think Brown was sold on being the ‘on ball’ 7 at all, as he tells it number on the back was never even discussed. I’ve come to the conclusion actually that the idea was getting two dynamic ball runners into the halves, having a lot of ‘switching’ of roles, but ultimately Ponga carrying a lot of the ‘halfback’ load, was AOB’s actual vision for the attack. I think that’s crazy and I just want Ponga playing as a fullback. A fullback-*** fullback. For years the line on Ponga has been that if only he had better halves and didn’t have to shoulder so much creative load we’d see him play more like he has in Origin with better halves setting him up. Well, now’s the great chance to see that. If he’s not keen on playing like that and it causes him to want to leave, well, Fletcher is right there.

You don’t say, “no, we can never have Ponga linking play through the middle third”, especially when we get a roll on and have a lot of time and space he can very effectively pick the right option. But Ponga on the ball when we’re trying to earn that roll on? I think that takes away so much from what actually makes him a good player. I believe AOB’s biggest recurring mistake with the attack is constantly trying to change the kind of player Ponga is, turn him into some imaginary “complete” player to justify our investment in him. We’ve seen by now it likely is possible to do that with Reece Walsh, but I just don’t think that’s the kind of player Kalyn is. Kalyn isn’t a lead playmaker IMO, he’s a strike weapon. We want others setting him up rather than him setting up others.
 
Left side attack is most teams strong side.

Ponga can go where he likes and not restricted to left side.
 
Been waiting for this Owey, understand where you’ve been coming from a lot better now. 😊

The short answer is “yes”, if there’s a ‘go to’ thing I think our attack should be about, it’s opening up the left side of the field as much as possible, with Dylan Brown going into the line with options on his outside, Ponga sweeping around, in a variety of shapes and combinations. I don’t believe in a “Melbourne style” attacking system with the personnel we have. I think stylistically, teams like Souths, Easts and Parramatta make more sense as a general guide for what we should be looking to do. Obviously you don’t just attack one side of the field and that’s it but knowing in advance Souths were looking to set up Cody & Latrell on the left didn’t ever seem to make them particularly easy to stop.

I would look to play with a split field, Brown left, Smith right, as a general rule, but with alternation of which half is on the 1st & 2nd layer, and both Brown & Smith flipping over to act as the second receiver/sweeper depending on what looks the defensive line is giving them etc. The two of them are both very familiar with playing in this way. Visions of Ponga set up on the left with a wide 4-on-4 short side with Brown set to swing around Smith’s outside on the right, or Brown set up on the short side with Ponga looking to sweep, etc. I don’t think either Brown or Smith should be “on the ball”, if anything I’d want Brown ending most games with more ball receipts than Smith because if he hasn’t tested the line with his running game 10-15 times per game I’m not happy with his performance.

I actually don’t think Brown was sold on being the ‘on ball’ 7 at all, as he tells it number on the back was never even discussed. I’ve come to the conclusion actually that the idea was getting two dynamic ball runners into the halves, having a lot of ‘switching’ of roles, but ultimately Ponga carrying a lot of the ‘halfback’ load, was AOB’s actual vision for the attack. I think that’s crazy and I just want Ponga playing as a fullback. A fullback-*** fullback. For years the line on Ponga has been that if only he had better halves and didn’t have to shoulder so much creative load we’d see him play more like he has in Origin with better halves setting him up. Well, now’s the great chance to see that. If he’s not keen on playing like that and it causes him to want to leave, well, Fletcher is right there.

You don’t say, “no, we can never have Ponga linking play through the middle third”, especially when we get a roll on and have a lot of time and space he can very effectively pick the right option. But Ponga on the ball when we’re trying to earn that roll on? I think that takes away so much from what actually makes him a good player. I believe AOB’s biggest recurring mistake with the attack is constantly trying to change the kind of player Ponga is, turn him into some imaginary “complete” player to justify our investment in him. We’ve seen by now it likely is possible to do that with Reece Walsh, but I just don’t think that’s the kind of player Kalyn is. Kalyn isn’t a lead playmaker IMO, he’s a strike weapon. We want others setting him up rather than him setting up others.
Ok, so that's more of a Parramatta style rather the Melbourne or Penrith. It would make Brown feel comfortable i guess. But then Moses is the one making sure Parramatta is getting to their key points on the field. Can Brown step up to that? Can Smith be that guy? If the answer to that is Brown, what's the issue with him wearing 7?

I do feel a lot of people throw out the Brown 6 Smith 7 thing without really thinking about how that will play out on the field. The role matters more then the number on the back.

That word "playmaker" is so interesting in this context too. I don't think Ponga is a playmaker who gets the team to the points on the field they need to be, but obviously when we pull the trigger he is usually the guy the play goes through. Two different definitions of the word playmaker.
 
I think if there’s one thing we can thank AOB for with Ponga it’s that he has become much better on the right. In fact in the finals win in 2023 we scored two crucial tries with him sweeping around the right, and it would have been two in 2024 if Gagai hadn’t dropped that pass. The key thing IMO is getting him wider out there and using him more as a runner. Which is what most sides do with their fullbacks anyway, it’s just barely anyone throws even a comparable right to left bullet to Kalyn, so the natural inclination is to really open up that left side as much as possible with him.

Also wouldn’t understate how good Brown’s pass is in both directions if you want to set up for wider sweep shapes on the right.

Ok, so that's more of a Parramatta style rather the Melbourne or Penrith. It would make Brown feel comfortable i guess. But then Moses is the one making sure Parramatta is getting to their key points on the field. Can Brown step up to that? Can Smith be that guy? If the answer to that is Brown, what's the issue with him wearing 7?

I do feel a lot of people throw out the Brown 6 Smith 7 thing without really thinking about how that will play out on the field. The role matters more then the number on the back.

That word "playmaker" is so interesting in this context too. I don't think Ponga is a playmaker who gets the team to the points on the field they need to be, but obviously when we pull the trigger he is usually the guy the play goes through. Two different definitions of the word playmaker.
I don’t care who wears what number tbh because I don’t think either has the bandwidth to be a dominant 7 in the style of a Cleary or Katoa. I think this needs to be a pretty equal partnership. I don’t think you can put too much on either player’s plate without it hurting their game. Robbo for example this season had Sandon as the dominant organiser in Walker’s absence, and his lower kicking load isn’t purely Savala having a bigger boot - it’s role simplification. I’d look to flip that a bit with Sandon’s kicking game being the #1 thing I want him to improve over pre-season and trusting that a guy who’s played over 100 first grade games in the halves can help with the work of steering the side around more than Savala did. But at the end of the day Sandon was the half touching the ball the most for what was the 5th best attack in the NRL even before Sam Walker came back and replaced him. There’s a real chance the guy becomes genuinely quite a good first grade #7.

Honestly though the very best justification I have for Brown in 6 and Smith in 7 is aesthetic preference. Five-eighth is #1 with a bullet on what I call the Positional Coolness Index, with halfback languishing far below that, behind the entire rest of the backline in my opinion. Dylan Brown is much cooler than Sandon Smith. Therefore, Brown 6, Sandon 7. I don’t know Sandon just looks like a halfback to me. 😂
 
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Has Green officially left yet?

I can't imagine he remains after applying for head coach and not getting the job, to continue to work under the person that did!
Going to Manly apparently.
Lol Moses really has complete control of that club
 
Imagine being a defender and seeing Ponga and Brown swing to the left side of the feild, now you have to defend two of the best running halves who aren't afraid to pass on the Line and then you look who they are passing to, Lucas, Best and Marzhew!! That should scare a lot of teams
 
I do feel a lot of people throw out the Brown 6 Smith 7 thing without really thinking about how that will play out on the field. The role matters more then the number on the back.
And yes this is absolutely it, in all seriousness. They are both halves. I don’t think either is a “dominant” 7 where the 6 can just be a ball runner and that’s about it. But obviously there’s a talent disparity there which needs to be factored in to roles.

Teams have won or contended for premierships with a playing style where the 6 is unquestionably the “gun” half, the key man, with the 7 playing a more complimentary role. It hasn’t looked the same each time. Lockyer, Fittler, Soward, Maloney, Cody Walker and Luke Keary (hear me out - Cooper Cronk self-describes as a “role player” in those Roosters teams, obviously an overqualified one) are all different players.

It’s a reductive way of looking at it, but I think like Walker and prime Keary, successful utilisation of Dylan Brown means “lots of direct try involvements”.
 
Genuine question for those who want Smith 7 and Brown 6. I have no doubt Brown was talked to about being the on ball 7 here. And i can genuinely see why people would want Smith in that role and have reservations about Brown doing that.

But the issue then becomes, as a 6, the left side is Brown's sweet spot. It is also Ponga's sweet spot. In the past, our right side attack has been neglected in favour of the left. What is the structure if Brown plays 6? Do we have both our 1 million dollar stars on the left (Ponga sweeping both sides)? That leaves Smith posted on the right and weakens that side. Or does Smith play on ball and either Brown or Ponga plays on there weaker right side?
We need to have Sandon smith if he the 7 on that side and find a way for Sharpe to be on that side too as he scored those 14 tries in like 10 games in first year mainly that side and even this year he was lethal on that side for us, wether he plays centre there and get gags to left wing outside best or see if young can swap sides maybe
Would think Marz would slightly be odd one out of backline for next year unless Holbrook embraces Sandon to dummy half but who knows yet
 
Unironically I think it's a great coach/player match. David Fifita absolutely went off a cliff when they fired Holbrook, and anyone saying Fifita didn't absolutely bust his arse under Holbrook will be very surprised if they look at Fifita's stats with Holbrook there. Alofiana Khan-Pereira another whose form has torpedoed. He seems to go well with these guys where their thing is that they're a bit mercurial/have had their commitment questioned, rather than lacking in ability.
I think so too. And now that is has been made official I think having previously been at the team and based off what he has said so far in introduction it sounds like he does "get" Newcastle, but so did guys like Rick Stone lol. So we'll see.
He is probably the most experienced from a first grade coach in the NRL experience in comparison to other candidates (that were taken seriously anyway) but it's good he is not a Moses client either.
Far less fake media generated drama this time around and no fuss done around the signing which is good to hear too. Sounds like the first thing he is doing is to meet the players and chat to them about their roles and go from there.
 
I don't care what he says, the club says, or players say. Far too many words and not enough backing them up.

Jsaf before Parra said how the squad wants to send AOB out a winner. Could have fooled me.

Slogan for mine for pre season is put up or shut up. Or maybe, no words just actions.

All that matters is the talking done on the field.
 
I would love to see Cant given a go at nine to move Crossland out wide where I think he has been great. I think Cant would be great, good hands can step and has been a centre and I just don't think he is big enough to be a traditional forward.
 
I would love to see Cant given a go at nine to move Crossland out wide where I think he has been great. I think Cant would be great, good hands can step and has been a centre and I just don't think he is big enough to be a traditional forward.
Has Cant played hooker before? I’ve seen this mentioned a couple of times and am not sure if he was a hooker in his juniors or if it’s just the Knights where anyone with a contract is a potential hooker?
 
If Green is actually leaving I'm happy with that,
Our attack has been woefull for 2 years and he is the attack coach. Plus Mosses can go get .... Except he can leave us Lucas.
Also happy for all AOB's assistants to be gone for a fresh start.
 
I think Crossland is wasted at hooker and plays better out wide and I see no reason why Cant couldn't be an effective hooker
 
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