Johns never played elite juniors.
He played a bit of park footy in Manly.
At age 19 he decided to give footy a crack and got a Jersey Flegg chance at the Knights under a coach who happened to know his father a bit.
In that year of Flegg, and in the preseason, he was training like a firstgrader, doing many sessions with a private coach named Matt Johns.
He went OK playing 5/8 or centre in Flegg, but missed a lot of games because of injuries that were probably caused by over training I reckon.
He had a few years of reserve grade at the knights where he was in and out with injuries and seemed too slow to be a back and not big enough to be a forward and not skilful enough to be a half.
He went to South Sydney where he played a bit of halves in reserves and got a lot of praise for his cool head and maturity as captain and playmaker.
He has pretty much converted into a forward since being back at the Knights, and my opinion is that he is finally big enough and fit enough to pull off NRL standard forward.
I'd like to see him get a few years of NRL footy somewhere, and then take up coaching.
He is a very smart guy with a great personality who knows footy inside out. He's had some good teachers.