2017/2018 Knights Player signing speculation

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Kenny Powers said:
He doesn't have a one dimensionalready step, no amount of homework can neutralize it. He leaves people for dead the same way RTS and Benji Marshall do/did

Marshall was a tiny kid upon his debut and had immediate impact. I dont buy into the 'age' arguement either, hes either good enough or he's not.. and land if you're suggesting that he'd be better off playing reserve grade for 12 months then please explain to me how young stars like latrell Mitchell manage to impress in FG at 18 straight out of NYC? And please don't simply say 'size' because I'll just point you to one of half a dozen other small 18 year olds currently or just previously ripping it up at FG level
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Depending on position size matters! A 18yr old that is 82kg will get owned every return at fullback!

Name me 5 current NRL players under 85kg please champion.

Offs Simone played for Australia at 18 and 2yrs later still hasn't found his feet!!! Anyone hedging there bets on a kid to save us is delusional

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Aidos said:
The guy is 18 and a FB, of course he's got a small frame. Nothing a pre-season and growing into his body won't fix.
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Yep mamo showed us that result!
 
Ponga isn't a small frame, he's a tall bloke with a relatively big frame at 183cm he's taller than most of the squad bar a handfull of forwards

His natural weight will be something like 90-100kgs, and having never had a FG preseason his current weight is a reflection of his age and not 'some restriction of his body type'. In other words, he'll probably put on 5kgs between last season and next and be playing at closer to 90kgs by the time the action starts

I'm not concerned at all. And what he will bring in attack will far out way whatever amateur shortcomings we can expect of an 18 year old

FYI most of the halves in the comp are well under 90kgs and have much smaller frames than Ponga
 
Aidos said:
Holmes, Cleary, Taylor, Elgey, Baptiste, plus many more.

This is irrelevant anyway as he's still growing and will likely be bigger by next year anyway.

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One of the ones that didn't out of about a hundred. Well done lol.
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Lol @ Holmes being under 85kgs.
All those players you listed are halves and a hooker which you could get away with being bit smaller.
 
Left Foot said:
Lol @ Holmes being under 85kgs.
All those players you listed are halves and a hooker which you could get away with being bit smaller.
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He was listed as 85kg from the front page of google but I actually now see he is 87kg on the official sharks website.

He said current NRL players so I went off that.
 
In 2005 Greg Inglis weighed 88kg's he's now 105kg's, their working with the best dietitians and trainers they will get him to his optimum weight.
 
Aidos said:
He was listed as 85kg from the front page of google but I actually now see he is 87kg on the official sharks website.

He said current NRL players so I went off that.
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Holmes will be well over 90kgs.
The club websites are always off.
Just like how Sione being taller than Gagai.
 
All 18-year-old NRL players are skinny because they haven't trained full time & are still growing. He should be right, he looks like the kind of frame that will put on some weight to match his height in coming years.
 
88Knight4life said:
Have to catch him first... Remember Alex Glenn snapping Mamo in half?

I'm stoked we signed him but I'm also happy to see him sit in NQ for another yr growing and learning as he will be hot and cold for a couple of yr here as is.

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It was reported when he did the NFL tour that he was 182cm 97kg or about the same as Sione was during 2016.

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11yrs ago and I'd say the 88kg was dribble anyway! Considering in 2008 he hit 116kg
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Sorry forgot you knew everything.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...a/news-story/649ce46b96e43e7f9f7483d340d5e963
 
Size aside, would he not be our most damaging FB? I think he would and for that reason I want him here.

And also, by 2018 there will be combinations building and we can hit the ground running. But if he stays at the Cowboys playing reserve grade, against a low quality of opposition, he will begin 2018 in Newcastle in arguably a weaker position than if he were to play 2017 with us... obviously I dont buy into the JT will teach him bs
 
GI played for Macksville Sea Eagles up to Under 16's and the Group Junior representative side, and he certainly was a skinny little weed and neither Greg nor his family will take offence at that, as he still believes there is an 88kg man inside there somewhere. He attended Broadmeadow Sports High and was contracted to the Storm whil;st there, who moved him to Queensland to get him out of the sight of talent scouts. Matt Gillett followed a similar course but went North, not South.

I could name at least one fullback bigger - Kevin 'Lummy' Longbottom who also played for Souths in the late 60's and won the 1967 GF with a perfect goal. He regularly kicked goals from his own half. He was a very good golfer and caddied at one stage for the great Bruce Devlin. Kevin died at about 45 or so from memory.
 
@kenny.

There is no "ifs" about it mate.... it is what it is and there is no point complaining about it tbh.

The club signed him knowing he had a yr to go in NQ and imo the nrl has to change this crap and fast cause every yr this happens
 
It looks like Jack Bird isn't heading to Newcastle anytime soon


By Alex Campbell
January 11th, 2017


Premiership-winning three-quarter Jack Bird is the man at the centre of Newcastle’s plans to rebuild the struggling club’s roster, but if his latest comments are any indication, he’ll be in the black, white and blue for some time to come.

Off contract at the end of 2017, Bird insisted he wasn’t money hungry at the Auckland Nines launch back in December - and his latest comments appear to back that up.

“I’ve got (2017) at the Sharks and I guess all that contract stuff will fall into place when it comes around,” Bird told The NRL Podcast.

“Hopefully I can stay at the Sharks for a long time.”

“I guess you can get complacent,” Bird said.

“People that are on big dollars, they think they’ve done it all and they don’t perform as well.

“You’re not going to go to a team you don’t really want to go to, but they’re offering you $1 million.

“You want to go to a team where you’re going to achieve a lot in your own footy; you want to make semi-finals and all that kind of stuff.

“If you know you’re going to a team that’s going to finish last, but you’re on the most money there, you’re probably not going to enjoy your football.”

While he didn’t explicitly say Newcastle, Knytro the Knight himself couldn’t deny that both the offer – a nice, round million a season – and the ladder position – cellar dwellers – seems to indicate that even if Bird doesn’t end up as the first-choice fullback at Cronulla, Newcastle won't land him anytime soon.


http://www.sportingnews.com/au/leag...n-predictions-video/xord5j594rt018mfnytwlinv4
 
Lmao never heard a bigger load of horse**** in my life

If we or any other club offered him eveb 20% more than what the Sharks could, his manager would convince him to take it

Words are cheap, especially for young kids riding the emotion of a grandfinal win. What an unrealistic and juvenile thing to say
 
At least he isn't jerking us around.
His manager should be telling him to use us to talk up his next contract at Cronulla - but the kid is using the interesting negotiating tactic of telling Cronulla he'll sign whatever they put in front of him.
 
Billy said:
At least he isn't jerking us around.
His manager should be telling him to use us to talk up his next contract at Cronulla - but the kid is using the interesting negotiating tactic of telling Cronulla he'll sign whatever they put in front of him.
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See wouldn't a challenge be to bring a struggling club to the top then cash in ? Brain smith did it with us and got a huge deal at the roosters
 
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