Dane Gagai discussion

SharpeGreatness said:
There is absolutely no room for sentiment for successful teams, you have to be ruthless
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On the other hand you were saying we should make Dom Young sit in NSW Cup because of some random hierarchy or order in which players sign with the club though?
 
SharpeGreatness said:
There is absolutely no room for sentiment for successful teams, you have to be ruthless, if he finds a club and moves on I wish him the absolute best but POS is making sure we don’t do the dumb **** anymore.

And that means paying for sentiment, if we can get him for less than I want the club to do so.
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Disagree, within reason.

There is plenty of room for sentiment in successful teams. Doing the right thing by your players and how you treat players and look after them is seen by everyone.

Ricky resting players so they play milestone games at home. Starting bench players for milestone games. Those decisions aren’t in the best interests of their team, but they do them.

Re-signing injured players another example.

Pahulu for example, Titans rested him to save some $$ instead of doing the right thing by the player. 12 months later he says see you later.

I’d love to see what we are planning to do with the 400K in 2026 before making a final choice. But offloading our 300 NRL game player with 200+ appearances for the Knights may not be a good move among the playing group, or prospective signings.
 
bremsstrahlung said:
Disagree, within reason.

There is plenty of room for sentiment in successful teams. Doing the right thing by your players and how you treat players and look after them is seen by everyone.

Ricky resting players so they play milestone games at home. Starting bench players for milestone games. Those decisions aren’t in the best interests of their team, but they do them.

Re-signing injured players another example.

Pahulu for example, Titans rested him to save some $$ instead of doing the right thing by the player. 12 months later he says see you later.

I’d love to see what we are planning to do with the 400K in 2026 before making a final choice. But offloading our 300 NRL game player with 200+ appearances for the Knights may not be a good move among the playing group, or prospective signings.
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Although he’s turned to rubbish anyway, treating Leo Thompson like that is how we lost him, as well.
 
bremsstrahlung said:
Disagree, within reason.

There is plenty of room for sentiment in successful teams. Doing the right thing by your players and how you treat players and look after them is seen by everyone.

Ricky resting players so they play milestone games at home. Starting bench players for milestone games. Those decisions aren’t in the best interests of their team, but they do them.

Re-signing injured players another example.

Pahulu for example, Titans rested him to save some $$ instead of doing the right thing by the player. 12 months later he says see you later.

I’d love to see what we are planning to do with the 400K in 2026 before making a final choice. But offloading our 300 NRL game player with 200+ appearances for the Knights may not be a good move among the playing group, or prospective signings.
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It's not like we punted a guy on contract though, we declined a mutual option, we said we would sign him, but not for 400k.

And its not like the club hasn't done that in the past, we signed Watson after an injury for a year and he turned around and signed with the chooks after.
 
Newygirl said:
The club must be thinking why pay $400k when we can probably get him for $250- $300k. He’s not likely to pack up his family and move to Sydney for 100k more, it would be pointless.

Paying everyone 100k extra adds up and clearly they’re trying to put a stop to that. Hopefully they can work something out. Maybe they can offer him a job once he retires if wants
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Just because POS can save some coin doesn’t mean he should in this situation. As other posters have pointed out, Leo and Pahulu are recent examples of clubs trying to be cute because technically they could get away with it.

If POS doesn’t see Gagai being worth 400k to our team then I’m curious to see what he think the rest of the players in our squad are worth.
 
Oliver said:
Just because POS can save some coin doesn’t mean he should in this situation. As other posters have pointed out, Leo and Pahulu are recent examples of clubs trying to be cute because technically they could get away with it.

If POS doesn’t see Gagai being worth 400k to our team then I’m curious to see what he think the rest of the players in our squad are worth.
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POS had nothing to do with Leo…

It was reported that previous management promised him pay raises that never came and he got sick of the broken promises and had enough.

Pahulu was always going to join Melbourne they are much more successful and are known for getting the best out of the players.


Funny how history repeats, everywhere POS has gone fans have been critical of what he does but he always gets it done, remember the roosters when he went for Keary? The fans were furious didn’t believe he was good enough. How did that turn out again I think two premierships?.

The fact is Gagai is a legend and is still playing really well but Hunt and McCarthy are the future and have shown they are ready for the NRL right now, people are just being stubborn on Gagai for nostalgia.
 
SharpeGreatness said:
POS had nothing to do with Leo…

It was reported that previous management promised him pay raises that never came and he got sick of the broken promises and had enough.

Pahulu was always going to join Melbourne they are much more successful and are known for getting the best out of the players.


Funny how history repeats, everywhere POS has gone fans have been critical of what he does but he always gets it done, remember the roosters when he went for Keary? The fans were furious didn’t believe he was good enough. How did that turn out again I think two premierships?.

The fact is Gagai is a legend and is still playing really well but Hunt and McCarthy are the future and have shown they are ready for the NRL right now, people are just being stubborn on Gagai for nostalgia.
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Who ever said POS was involved in Pahulu leaving the Titans or Leo not receiving what Zammit promised him?
 
Random stat, but honestly Gags has been of great service to the club over his two stints. A decade in the red and blue approaching his 11th season for us and will be 35 before we kick off next season but the man has managed to average 21.6 games a year since being here and that's not only including byes, injuries and suspensions but also a pretty impressive rep stint form 2015-2024.

Plus not to mention his first year he only played 12 games so his other 9 have been of high input, rarely missing games.
Hats off to you Gags!👏👏
 
Thought he would have got Val’s jersey! I think he might picking more on tough opponents. Anyway I love this from Gags.
 

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I think people are going into meltdown to much, I mean we don’t know what will happen and it wouldn’t be the first time a guy has come out of nowhere in cup to become a first grade player.

I personally think people don’t know how recruitment works and don’t realise by keeping him it would be someone else that gets the shove and the knock on effect from that.

I do find it funny that people on here say they trust POS until he makes a call they don’t agree with, as a club we have to move on and give the up and comers the game time they need to actually develop as cup will only ever take them so far, it’s about the future and making sure those kids reach their potential by playing against the best week in and out and not stalling them and potentially losing them for a 35 year old.

I am perfectly happy with what we have and wish him the best, I think we will be fine and don’t believe in the whole “don’t have anyone” not matter how much people want to tell me otherwise, I’m very confident in them.
 
It’s nothing for us to be blowing up over. Sure our young guys might not be quite ready yet, but they will be in a year or 2 given the depth we have acquired. Until one stands out above the others, you rotate between 2 or 3 of them until they can handle first grade

If you keep Gagai at the expense of one of the younger guys, you will loose one of them, which could bite us later

We should be happy, we are now in a situation where we can decide if we want to keep older players and not feel we have no option but to keep them.

All successful sporting organisations have plans in place to replace their ageing stars with new talent to keep them competitive.

Best example I can think of is Green Bay Packers. They plan ahead with their quarterback and draft them 3 years before they want them to take over. When they had Farve, they drafted Rogers and sat him for 3 years. They then did the same thing with Love
 
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