Sack Adam O’Brien

Morris seems like a lateral move. Coached for 3 years for a 7th and 8th placed finishes and didn’t make it to the end of the 3rd with a losing record overall. Doesn’t inspire much confidence.
 
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waynesworld said:
I don’t really understand what people’s expectations are for the season when our play from our halfback has been so poor, our five eighth missed half the season and our 1.4m dollar player missed a large chunk too. Even on the weekend if Gamble doesn’t break, his our on field general at the moment we’re probably more likely to kick a field goal.

Do people think that with the same circumstances John Morris would have us in better shape?
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Everyone Is still hungover from last years run and you can't really blame us.

Even through those circumstances you mentiomed, how we've managed to get to this low point from last year is beyond beggars belief.
 
mozza said:
Morris seems like a lateral move. Coached for 3 years for a 7th and 8th placed finishes and didn’t make it to the end of the 3rd with a losing record overall. Doesn’t inspire much confidence.
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Have a look at the rosters though. He got those finishes with his best player injured most of the time & with teams where about half of the roster had been playing for the Newtown Jets before he got there.

Coaches aren’t miracle workers. You can only judge them on performance relative to the players they have available. Seven time premiership winning coach Wayne Bennett has the Dolphins on the fringe of the 8. Sounds meh in a vacuum until you dig into the specifics.
 
HarVeeGee13 said:
Have a look at the rosters though. He got those finishes with his best player injured most of the time & with teams where about half of the roster had been playing for the Newtown Jets before he got there.

Coaches aren’t miracle workers. You can only judge them on performance relative to the players they have available. Seven time premiership winning coach Wayne Bennett has the Dolphins on the fringe of the 8. Sounds meh in a vacuum until you dig into the specifics.
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Who was their best player?
Looking at their squad from 19 and 20 and it’s alright nothing special but a bottom of the 8 finish looks about par for the squads.
Not saying he can’t coach but I can’t see why people would expect a big improvement under him?
 
mozza said:
Who was their best player?
Looking at their squad from 19 and 20 and it’s alright nothing special but a bottom of the 8 finish looks about par for the squads.
Not saying he can’t coach but I can’t see why people would expect a big improvement under him?
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Anything other than one out runs and non contested ends to sets is an improvement.

We don't play to score points. Can't win without scoring points.
We have one of the most gifted players in the nrl who just gets given the ball and everyone watches and hopes he does something special.

No decent players will want to come here and play AOB ball.
 
I know there's not alot out there, but AOB is out of ideas and has exhausted his options. If we persist with him we KNOW we will get the same next year. If we try someone else we MIGHT get someone who unlocks the teams potential and gets us results. We could also get someone worse, but at least try something else or well all be here next year saying the same stuff.
 
waynesworld said:
I don’t really understand what people’s expectations are for the season when our play from our halfback has been so poor, our five eighth missed half the season and our 1.4m dollar player missed a large chunk too. Even on the weekend if Gamble doesn’t break, his our on field general at the moment we’re probably more likely to kick a field goal.

Do people think that with the same circumstances John Morris would have us in better shape?
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Its a fair case to make this year that injuries defitely struck a chord this year in ending our season and finishing 9th-12th wasn't terrible, plus the growth of teams like Dogs and Dragons who have had very little injury interruptions through the year.

Form of our spine not being great had absolutely had its affect as well.

If we had a good run with injuries like last year then we may have had a better year and be fighting it out for 6th-8th.

The start of the year is my biggest concern, coming off a strong season and starting the way we did, with player forgetting the 1%'s that win you games and get the likes of KP in the position he needs. We kind of rectified that in the middle of the year, had some good wins, then we relaxed again.
That needs to be fixed next season and they need to start well and in unison. a whole season and preseason with KPP to link up that edge or Lucas.
Even if we bring in a new half it all needs to be sorted before Xmas. Players need to have a hard off season and remember to win they need to compete at a very high standard all season.
 
Kurriboy said:
Apparently OB has a clause in his contract he has to finish above 13th or can be terminated.

With the rabbits home, then 2 away games in qld its still possible.

But I have to say, a clause that the coach has to finish 12th or above is peak Knights mediocrity.
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We play Souths away, then play the Titans and Dolphins at home.
 
Bulldogs and Sea Eagles finished 12th or lower last year but are currently in top 8. Cowboys 11th last year too. I'm sure they're quite pleased they didn't sack their coaches based on last year's result.
 
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Its a fair case to make this year that injuries defitely struck a chord this year in ending our season and finishing 9th-12th wasn't terrible, plus the growth of teams like Dogs and Dragons who have had very little injury interruptions through the year.

Form of our spine not being great had absolutely had its affect as well.

If we had a good run with injuries like last year then we may have had a better year and be fighting it out for 6th-8th.

The start of the year is my biggest concern, coming off a strong season and starting the way we did, with player forgetting the 1%'s that win you games and get the likes of KP in the position he needs. We kind of rectified that in the middle of the year, had some good wins, then we relaxed again.
That needs to be fixed next season and they need to start well and in unison. a whole season and preseason with KPP to link up that edge or Lucas.
Even if we bring in a new half it all needs to be sorted before Xmas. Players need to have a hard off season and remember to win they need to compete at a very high standard all season.
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Completely agree that we missed the jump, but I’ve got a feeling they weren’t prepared for Hastings drop off. He looked completely off the pace and a shadow of himself from the season before.

I think the grinding style that they’ve implemented has been off the back of the halves struggling, and it’s really been bleak how we can’t run away with game in the last 20. At the end of the season I think it’ll be really interesting to see when in games we scored our most tries, because it does feel like we’ve just tried to hold onto so many games this year and lost late.

The toughest thing about 2025 is the halves situation isn’t going to change, but I guess our game style will have to adapt. We were the best attacking side in 2023, so the ability is there they definitely just need to refresh the mindset.
 
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Kurriboy said:
Apparently OB has a clause in his contract he has to finish above 13th or can be terminated.

With the rabbits home, then 2 away games in qld its still possible.

But I have to say, a clause that the coach has to finish 12th or above is peak Knights mediocrity.
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The clause is finishing 12th or above triggers the last two years of his contract. Below that, he is still contracted for next year. If it came to a payout, he'd be getting one year's pay, not three.
 
mozza said:
Who was their best player?
Looking at their squad from 19 and 20 and it’s alright nothing special but a bottom of the 8 finish looks about par for the squads.
Not saying he can’t coach but I can’t see why people would expect a big improvement under him?
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Shaun Johnson IMO.
 
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