Round 19: Newcastle Knights vs Wests Tigers

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  1. Lefty

    Lefty Daniel Abraham

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    My team would be:

    1 Ponga
    2 Hunt
    3 Moga
    4 Hoy
    5 Kenny-Dowall
    6 Crossland
    7 Pearce
    8 D Saf
    9 Watson
    10 Klem
    11 Brodie Jones
    12 Guerra
    13 Glasby
    14 Woolford
    15 Ese'ese
    16 J Saf
    17 Saulo
     
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    slotmachine Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    More chance winning lotto than that side running out.
     
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    Matty23 Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    1. Ponga
    2. Hoy
    3. Hunt
    4. Moga
    5. SKD
    6. Lino
    7. Pearce
    8. Klemmer
    9. Watson
    10. DSaf
    11. Mata’utia
    12. Barnett
    13. Glasby

    14. Levi
    15. Ese’ese
    16. JSaf
    17. Guerra

    Time to bite the bloody bullet and dump Ramien, Mann, Gavet and Buhrer to reserves and bring in Hoy to debut either on the wing or at centre, start Watson at hooker with Levi rotating and bring in JSaf and Guerra on the bench. If this team can’t beat the f***ing Tigers than we should fold. Worse comes to worse than give Jones/Saulo a shot.
     
  4. Billy

    Billy Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    The Roosters cruelly exposed our weaknesses, but no need to panic.
    The only two sides to really have the firepower to put us to the sword so far have been Melbourne and Roosters when both have had strong rosters available.

    We'll be fine against Wests.

    Unchanged side for me. I think that's our best side till Fitz, Lee etc come back.

    We were never going to beat a near full strength Roosters side, but the Wests game is a must win game, and a should win game for us.
     
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    Beaumont Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    1 Ponga
    2 Ramien
    3 Hunt
    4 Moga
    5 SKD
    6 Watson
    7 Pearce
    8 DSaf
    9 levi
    10 Klemmer
    11 Glasby
    12 Barnett
    13 Ese'ese

    14 Mann
    15 JSaf
    16 Sione
    17 Guerra
     
  6. mozza

    mozza Game on broheim

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    Yeah we’ll win this. I’d drop Ramien but don’t think we have anyone to replace him?

    Guerra in for Buhrer too. Waste of a bench spot.
     
  7. AlbertWillScore97

    AlbertWillScore97 Graeme Foster

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    Issue is some of the lower placed sides are starting to find a little form, at least enough to cause upsets or push sides for most of a match, it will be an early mad Monday if the knights dont get their act together next week, not to mention, really, what's the point of making the finals if you're merely there to make up the numbers?
     
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  8. R_A

    R_A Sean Rudder

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    Are just picking Sione because we know Brownie is never going to drop him or do people legitamately believe he is apart of the best 17 we can put out?
     
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    knightime Steve Southern

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    I'd stick with the same 1-17, although perhaps JSaf in for Buhrer. When we had a run of 6 losses or so in a row earlier in the year, Brown stuck solid and we turned it around. No point making more drastic changes IMO.
     
  10. Lord of the Skraelings

    Lord of the Skraelings Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    Normally I'd come down hard on such a rant but our last 4 outings. Yep weld the axe.
     
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    Lord of the Skraelings Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    No one loves Sione more than me lol. But that being said Sione on the bench has been great on there his almost a must.
     
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    relicorange94 Chris Mandalidis

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    I’d move Mann to Wing, he did so well there during the trial against Cronulla earlier this year so why not?
    1. Ponga
    2. Mann
    3. Hunt
    4. Moga
    5. SKD
    6. Lino
    7. Pearce.
    8. Klemmer
    9. Watson
    10. D.Saifiti
    11. Matautia
    12. Barnett
    13. Glasby

    14. Levi
    15. Ese’Ese
    16. J.Saifiti
    17. Guerra.
     
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    Ak-47 Rod Whitaker

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    Send this Brown. Coach needs to see this lol
     
  14. Billy

    Billy Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    Mann averages just over 10 tackles per game in his hundred games.
    In the game against the Roosters the first time he made 36 tackles and missed 7. In the game against the Storm he made 28 and missed 4, and in the game this week he made 30 and missed 4.
    In the Melbourne game in particular it was very obvious that all his former team mates were targeting him, because they would have known that big numbers in defence have never been part of his game.
    even so, he has 85% tackle efficiency this year, and Lino has 82%.
    Anyway, both Mann and Lino are massive targets in our defensive line, and the well coached sides know it.
    Sides that take us on in the forwards aren't getting much joy, but those who attack us on the edges are going OK.
     
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    Frank McWilliams Sean Rudder

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    I know statistics are a good guide but more in it than that, Lino offers more in all round game which includes kicking not only for goal but in general play, offers alternative to Pearce allowing for variations in play, he just needs to play his own game when with Pearce.
    Mann is only in side if injuries happen, Ramien is specialist centre, terrible against Roosters, were Mann is more a fill in type. Moga not great but should stay so Lino in Mann out.
     
  16. mozza

    mozza Game on broheim

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    Of course he is. But he’s been our longest serving player so it’s easier to blame him rather than the shiny new players that are actually costing us games.
     
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    Lord of the Skraelings Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    Lino. Lol that is all?
     
  18. Billy

    Billy Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    I'd be tempted to play Chris Randall at 5/8.
    He averages about 40 tackles a game at 90% efficiency at least.
     
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    Owey Jake Mamo

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    I don't mind that suggestion at all. As it stands, we can't beat a good team come finals time with our right side defence being able to be picked apart like it has been of late. Along with Melbourne and the Roosters, Blake Green picked it apart as well.

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    Wobbles Chris Joynt

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    I'm guilty in the past of perhaps unfair criticism, but definitely not for his effort and willingness to throw himself into every tackle and hitup. Without the run of concussions I doubt his selection would be as controversial. I definitely don't see him playing more than 2 x 25 or 30 mins in the pack.

    The biggest weakness for mine is him rushing up out of the line and leaving a hole, but he's not the only one. It's something that can be coached out of a player's game.

    Fitz has earnt his starting spot and his form shows that, Barnett is more consistent and it'd be hard to leave him out.

    Sione's biggest competitor for a spot right now is probably Guerra, I don't know whether Brown would leave either out.

    On current form, I'd go with:

    8 - Klemmer
    9 - Levi
    10 - Dan
    11 - Fitz (Guerra while fitz is injured)
    12 - Barnett
    13 - Glasby

    14 - Watson
    15 - Sione
    16 - Herman / Guerra
    17 - Whichever prop has earnt it

    But that leaves us with a really lightweight bench.
     
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