NRL Supercoach Fantasy 2013 Thread
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cowboyman
Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
First article on this years supercoach season is on league central for anyone interested in seeing new prices for some players.
I really like the new pricing system to with gun rookies not at the basement price of 87'500 which mean't everyone would have them but now they are based on their 1 or 2 games last year and are much more expensive.
I really like the new pricing system to with gun rookies not at the basement price of 87'500 which mean't everyone would have them but now they are based on their 1 or 2 games last year and are much more expensive.
rhugh89
Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
Exclusive sneak peek at key NRL SuperCoach player prices for season 2014
NATHAN Peats has emerged as the only must-have SuperCoach buy for a season set to be the hardest in fantasy history.
Peats, who finally gets a chance to step out of Issac Luke's shadow after signing as first-choice hooker at the Eels, will be the most popular player in SuperCoach following a crackdown on bargain buys.
Supercoach launches on Wednesday January 29.
In the past, SuperCoaches were presented with a glut of automatic cheap buys at the start of the season.
For example, last year saw George Burgess, Albert Kelly, Tohu Harris, Mahe Fonua, Jack Buchanan and Daniel Tupou picked in as many 50 per cent of sides for round one.
But this season, the game providers have identified players who would normally be automatic buys and upped their prices.
The end result is less obvious cheapies, which will create a more exciting competition by reducing player repetition across teams.
For example, many SuperCoaches had already pencilled in Luke Brooks (to take over from Benji Marshall as Wests Tigers playmaker) and Ben Hampton (to take Gareth Widdop's five-eighth spot at the Storm).
Brooks played just one game in 2014.
Hampton played two.
In the past, this wouldn't have been deemed enough games to incur a re-price based on average, and they would start the next season at rookie rates.
But for 2014, the 2013 performances of players who played just one or two games have been taken into account.
As such, Brooks will start the season at $225,100, while Hampton is $145,800, essentially ruling them out as cheapies.
Corey Parker ($421,500) is the most expensive player in SuperCoach once again, while returning Eel Will Hopoate ($204,200) is underpriced.The SuperCoach salary cap remains at $5m.
THE LOSERS
• Matt Gillett ($329,800) back-row - Gillett's high price is predicable given his great form last year, but his SuperCoach value has dipped after being stripped of dual position status.
• Josh Mantellato ($169,500) centre/wing - In line for backline spot at the Knights following a brilliant 2013 in which he made the NSW Cup Team of the Year on the wing and starred for Italy at the World Cup.
But a 59 on debut last year has seen him priced out of range.
• Wayne Ulugia ($184,800) centre/wing, fullback - Burst onto the scene late last year and is gunning for a round one spot at the Cowboys following the departures of Matt Bowen (Wigan Warriors), Kalifa Faifai Loa (Titans), Ashley Graham (retired) and Clint Greenshields (retired).
But he's a victim of his own SuperCoach success, priced high due to tryscoring exploits in limited regular season matches last year.
• Charlie Gubb ($129,300) front-row - The young Warriors prop is expected to step up this year following the departures of Russell Packer (Knights), Todd Lowrie (Broncos), Steve Rapira (Salford) and Elijah Taylor (Panthers).
He's been priced above rookie rates, but still may come into contention as a buy at a handy $129,300.
• Sam Tomkins ($334,000) - The star Warriors recruit is one of many Super League players to be priced awkwardly based on a combination of Super League stats and, if relevant, past NRL stats.
Others include Michael Dobson ($176,000), Daniel Holdsworth ($206,900), Pat Richards ($224,300), Cory Paterson ($219,800) and Remi Casty ($233,400).
• Luke Brooks ($225,100) halfback - Earmarked by many as the next superstar of the game.
Will take over from Benji Marshall as chief playmaker for the Tigers, but has been priced out of SuperCoach.
• Ben Hampton ($145,100) five-eighth, fullback - Produced a brilliant 70 on debut last year and is set to take Gareth Widdop's five-eighth spot at the Storm, but better cheapies will emerge well below his starting price of $145,100.
THE WINNERS
• Corey Parker ($421,500) back-row - He may be the most expensive player in the game, but expect Parker to dramatically up his scores this year after re-inheriting the full time kicking duties off Scott Prince (retired).
• Will Hopoate ($204,200) fullback, centre/wing - A serious decision needs to be made here. Hopoate's been handed a significant discount on his past average in the 60s, which would usually lead to a price around the $300,000 mark.
But even so, he's far from an automatic buy at $204,200 given he is injury-prone, hasn't played in two years, is now at the reigning wooden spooners and won't play in his favoured fullback position.
(Jarryd Hayne will play No. 1, with Corey Norman at five-eighth, meaning Hopoate is likely to play centre or wing).
• Anthony Milford ($283,400) fullback, five-eighth - Priced just below the top guns in his positions, but set to join the SuperCoach elite given he averaged just 60 minutes last year.
• Jake Trbojevich ($102,500) front-row - With Brent Kite (Panthers), George Rose (Storm), David Gower (Eels) and Joe Galuvao (retired) having left Manly, front row spots are up for grabs.
Thankfully, Junior Kangaroo Trbojevich hasn't incurred a price rise despite playing one game last year, remaining at rookie rates.
• Luke Keary ($102,500) halfback, five-eighth - Remains at a bargain basement price despite playing 10 games last year.
His average of 18, low due to long stints on the bench, was not deemed enough for a price recalculation.
SuperCoaches will be hoping Keary can push John Sutton into the forwards.
• Carlos Tuimavave ($102,500) centre/wing - Has been wound back to a rookie price following an injury-ruined season in which he played just three games for a lowly average of 18.
But Tuimavave averaged 56 in five games in 2012 and will offer value if he can force his way into first grade.
• Feleti Mateo ($233,700) back-row - Once a SuperCoach essential, the star Warrior starts at a very juicy price following a poor season, but has been stripped of dual position status.
• Jarryd Hayne ($290,200) fullback, five-eighth - The best back in SuperCoach history starts at his lowest ever price following his worst fantasy season. Ricky Stuart's focus on defence ruined Hayne's SuperCoach output last year.
But under new coach Brad Arthur, Hayne is set to re-join the SuperCoach elite.
He seems set to play in his favoured fullback position (with Corey Norman at five-eighth) and has an incredible SuperCoach pedigree, averaging 61 in 2013, 89 in 2012, 70 in 2011, 82 in 2010, 92 in 2009 and 65 in 2008.
• Nathan Peats ($102,500) front-row, back-row - Set to dramatically improve his output by stepping out of Issac Luke's shadow to become first-choice hooker at the Eels.
THE GUNS
• Cameron Smith ($398,400) front-row
• Paul Gallen ($388,300) back-row, front-row
• Andrew Fifita ($384,400) front-row• Robbie Farah ($367,200) front-row
• Johnathan Thurston ($364,000) halfback, five-eighth
• Sonny Bill Williams ($364,000) back-row
• Trent Merrin ($362,400) front-row, back-row• Billy Slater ($345,300) fullback
• Shaun Fensom ($320,700) back row
• Jamie Lyon ($308,900) centre/wing
• Greg Inglis ($314,000) fullback, centre/wing
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...-for-season-2014/story-fni3fs14-1226806189031
- TOM SANGSTER
- NEWS LIMITED NETWORK
- JANUARY 21, 2014 12:00AM
NATHAN Peats has emerged as the only must-have SuperCoach buy for a season set to be the hardest in fantasy history.
Peats, who finally gets a chance to step out of Issac Luke's shadow after signing as first-choice hooker at the Eels, will be the most popular player in SuperCoach following a crackdown on bargain buys.
Supercoach launches on Wednesday January 29.
In the past, SuperCoaches were presented with a glut of automatic cheap buys at the start of the season.
For example, last year saw George Burgess, Albert Kelly, Tohu Harris, Mahe Fonua, Jack Buchanan and Daniel Tupou picked in as many 50 per cent of sides for round one.
But this season, the game providers have identified players who would normally be automatic buys and upped their prices.
The end result is less obvious cheapies, which will create a more exciting competition by reducing player repetition across teams.
For example, many SuperCoaches had already pencilled in Luke Brooks (to take over from Benji Marshall as Wests Tigers playmaker) and Ben Hampton (to take Gareth Widdop's five-eighth spot at the Storm).
Brooks played just one game in 2014.
Hampton played two.
In the past, this wouldn't have been deemed enough games to incur a re-price based on average, and they would start the next season at rookie rates.
But for 2014, the 2013 performances of players who played just one or two games have been taken into account.
As such, Brooks will start the season at $225,100, while Hampton is $145,800, essentially ruling them out as cheapies.
Corey Parker ($421,500) is the most expensive player in SuperCoach once again, while returning Eel Will Hopoate ($204,200) is underpriced.The SuperCoach salary cap remains at $5m.
THE LOSERS
• Matt Gillett ($329,800) back-row - Gillett's high price is predicable given his great form last year, but his SuperCoach value has dipped after being stripped of dual position status.
• Josh Mantellato ($169,500) centre/wing - In line for backline spot at the Knights following a brilliant 2013 in which he made the NSW Cup Team of the Year on the wing and starred for Italy at the World Cup.
But a 59 on debut last year has seen him priced out of range.
• Wayne Ulugia ($184,800) centre/wing, fullback - Burst onto the scene late last year and is gunning for a round one spot at the Cowboys following the departures of Matt Bowen (Wigan Warriors), Kalifa Faifai Loa (Titans), Ashley Graham (retired) and Clint Greenshields (retired).
But he's a victim of his own SuperCoach success, priced high due to tryscoring exploits in limited regular season matches last year.
• Charlie Gubb ($129,300) front-row - The young Warriors prop is expected to step up this year following the departures of Russell Packer (Knights), Todd Lowrie (Broncos), Steve Rapira (Salford) and Elijah Taylor (Panthers).
He's been priced above rookie rates, but still may come into contention as a buy at a handy $129,300.
• Sam Tomkins ($334,000) - The star Warriors recruit is one of many Super League players to be priced awkwardly based on a combination of Super League stats and, if relevant, past NRL stats.
Others include Michael Dobson ($176,000), Daniel Holdsworth ($206,900), Pat Richards ($224,300), Cory Paterson ($219,800) and Remi Casty ($233,400).
• Luke Brooks ($225,100) halfback - Earmarked by many as the next superstar of the game.
Will take over from Benji Marshall as chief playmaker for the Tigers, but has been priced out of SuperCoach.
• Ben Hampton ($145,100) five-eighth, fullback - Produced a brilliant 70 on debut last year and is set to take Gareth Widdop's five-eighth spot at the Storm, but better cheapies will emerge well below his starting price of $145,100.
THE WINNERS
• Corey Parker ($421,500) back-row - He may be the most expensive player in the game, but expect Parker to dramatically up his scores this year after re-inheriting the full time kicking duties off Scott Prince (retired).
• Will Hopoate ($204,200) fullback, centre/wing - A serious decision needs to be made here. Hopoate's been handed a significant discount on his past average in the 60s, which would usually lead to a price around the $300,000 mark.
But even so, he's far from an automatic buy at $204,200 given he is injury-prone, hasn't played in two years, is now at the reigning wooden spooners and won't play in his favoured fullback position.
(Jarryd Hayne will play No. 1, with Corey Norman at five-eighth, meaning Hopoate is likely to play centre or wing).
• Anthony Milford ($283,400) fullback, five-eighth - Priced just below the top guns in his positions, but set to join the SuperCoach elite given he averaged just 60 minutes last year.
• Jake Trbojevich ($102,500) front-row - With Brent Kite (Panthers), George Rose (Storm), David Gower (Eels) and Joe Galuvao (retired) having left Manly, front row spots are up for grabs.
Thankfully, Junior Kangaroo Trbojevich hasn't incurred a price rise despite playing one game last year, remaining at rookie rates.
• Luke Keary ($102,500) halfback, five-eighth - Remains at a bargain basement price despite playing 10 games last year.
His average of 18, low due to long stints on the bench, was not deemed enough for a price recalculation.
SuperCoaches will be hoping Keary can push John Sutton into the forwards.
• Carlos Tuimavave ($102,500) centre/wing - Has been wound back to a rookie price following an injury-ruined season in which he played just three games for a lowly average of 18.
But Tuimavave averaged 56 in five games in 2012 and will offer value if he can force his way into first grade.
• Feleti Mateo ($233,700) back-row - Once a SuperCoach essential, the star Warrior starts at a very juicy price following a poor season, but has been stripped of dual position status.
• Jarryd Hayne ($290,200) fullback, five-eighth - The best back in SuperCoach history starts at his lowest ever price following his worst fantasy season. Ricky Stuart's focus on defence ruined Hayne's SuperCoach output last year.
But under new coach Brad Arthur, Hayne is set to re-join the SuperCoach elite.
He seems set to play in his favoured fullback position (with Corey Norman at five-eighth) and has an incredible SuperCoach pedigree, averaging 61 in 2013, 89 in 2012, 70 in 2011, 82 in 2010, 92 in 2009 and 65 in 2008.
• Nathan Peats ($102,500) front-row, back-row - Set to dramatically improve his output by stepping out of Issac Luke's shadow to become first-choice hooker at the Eels.
THE GUNS
• Cameron Smith ($398,400) front-row
• Paul Gallen ($388,300) back-row, front-row
• Andrew Fifita ($384,400) front-row• Robbie Farah ($367,200) front-row
• Johnathan Thurston ($364,000) halfback, five-eighth
• Sonny Bill Williams ($364,000) back-row
• Trent Merrin ($362,400) front-row, back-row• Billy Slater ($345,300) fullback
• Shaun Fensom ($320,700) back row
• Jamie Lyon ($308,900) centre/wing
• Greg Inglis ($314,000) fullback, centre/wing
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...-for-season-2014/story-fni3fs14-1226806189031
Milford and Hayne are specials at those prices by the look of it. I don't really get the love for Peats, yeah sure he'll be a handy back-up, but surely Parra will have a bench hooker as well, so I wouldn't want him in my starting supercoach 17.
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I also like the overpricing of some of the rookies too, makes things a bit more interesting and challenging. Brooks would be a risk at that price, but still could be worth it considering the lower-middle priced halves are usually pretty weak.
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I also like the overpricing of some of the rookies too, makes things a bit more interesting and challenging. Brooks would be a risk at that price, but still could be worth it considering the lower-middle priced halves are usually pretty weak.