mullenmagic
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Courier Mail reporting Ponga is set to sign a 5 or 6 year extension. Both parties keen to get the deal done by mid-season.
Kalyn Ponga re-signs with the Knights
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Kurriboy
Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
Fingers crossed. Would be good to keep other teams out of negotiating for him.
88Knight4life
Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
5yr extension is a bit much atm imo. 3yr woild be smarter.
Grandpa Joe - Prev Lord
Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
Nah I'll take 5 years man his marketability alone will pay his wages 5 times over even if his form goes to plod at some stage.
packo
:) (:
Be mad not to, will set him up for life really. Then he can do what ever he pleases. I would like to see him back in the halves when Pearce is done.
rhugh89
Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
Kalyn Ponga in talks with Newcastle over $6m new contract
Peter Badel, The Courier-Mail
April 6, 2019 6:00pm
Kalyn Ponga has begun negotiations with Newcastle hierarchy on a proposed $6 million contract that will keep the Maroons whizkid in the NRL and away from the clutches of the mighty All Blacks.
The Courier-Mail can reveal Ponga’s management has started preliminary talks with Knights hierarchy ahead of the Queensland Origin star’s return to fullback against the Dragons in Newcastle on Sunday.
Ponga has had an indifferent start to the 2019 season in a new role at five-eighth, but his minor blip in form won’t stop the 21-year-old becoming the next young gun to join the NRL’s elite $1 million club.
The new deal will represent the richest contract in Newcastle’s 31-year history. It would eclipse David Klemmer’s $4.3m mega deal, signed last November, and see Ponga financially surge past the Knights’ greatest playmakers — the famous Johns brothers, Matthew and NRL Immortal Andrew.
Ponga is currently contracted to Newcastle until the end of 2021, with an option in his favour for the following season. But the former Cowboys sensation is so content at his new club he sees a longer-term future at Newcastle and the Knights are amenable to an upgrade.
Newcastle bosses have not discussed figures at this stage but have indicated they would like to extend Ponga beyond 2022. The rookie’s management is keen to broker an extension until at least the end of 2024, when Ponga turns 26.
Under the proposal, Ponga’s salary this season, around $750,000, would not change. But a beefed-up five or six-year extension would see Ponga earn up to $1.2 million annually, a salary package that would make a poaching threat from New Zealand rugby seriously prohibitive.
There are suggestions Ponga is worth $1.5m on the open market, but the Knights would likely baulk at such a figure given the constraints of the NRL’s $9.6m salary cap.
The Knights ace was last year linked with a shock move to play rugby for New Zealand, the birthplace of his father Andre, but the Ponga camp are not entertaining any notion of an All Blacks defection.
It is understood Ponga’s management will formalise the upgrade this season, preferably before the completion of the Origin series in July.
Ponga told The Sunday Mail he was relishing life in Newcastle after the emotional anguish of the toughest call of his young career — telling Cowboys superstar Johnathan Thurston he would be leaving Townsville.
“I’m really happy at the Knights,” said Ponga, who plays his 24th game for Newcastle on Sunday and just his 33rd NRL game overall.
“I didn’t think I would establish myself at Newcastle as quickly as I have.
“It’s been awesome. I’ve learnt a lot on and off the field. It’s been a good move … the right move.
“To be honest, it would have been the easier option to stay (at the Cowboys), but I had faith in myself and my family backed me. I felt confident with what I was doing.”
The Cowboys were carefully grooming Ponga to succeed Thurston. The mentoring plan was humming along when Thurston was left stunned by Ponga’s Knights bombshell.
“It was definitely hard to walk away from the Cowboys,” he said. “They had a bloke like ‘Jonno’ who was such a huge figure and I was doing some mentoring with him.
“We had a chat. I told him I was leaving.
“He respected what I said. He had his views. What I chose probably wasn’t what ‘JT’ wanted to hear but I’d like to think he is happy for me now.
“Going to a different city with a struggling team (Newcastle was a tough call, but I was confident I could make it work.”
While he played nine games for the Cowboys, Ponga’s sizzling 2018 campaign with the Knights represented his first full season of NRL. Almost overnight, he became a State of Origin star, but Ponga is determined not to become a bighead. He is not seduced by success. He is adamant he will not be a victim of second-year syndrome.
“I’ve heard about that term,” he says.
“I haven’t watched anyone myself and thought they were great in their rookie year, but geez, they suck this year.
“I’m not worried about the negatives. I’ve always looked for positives in life so that’s the way I will approach this year.
“My humility comes from my family. My dad has a lot of brothers and I’ve always had them to keep me in line. Any time dad saw things going to my head, he pulled my head in very quickly.
“I’ve still got a long way to go. I’m still keen, still working hard. I don’t want to get to the end of my career thinking, ‘Far out, I should have done this, I should have improved in this area’.
“I always want to get better. As long as I keep that mindset, I’ll keep getting better.”
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/teams/knights/kalyn-ponga-in-talks-with-newcastle-over-6m-new-contract/news-story/c8537860c9d02eadee33ce7cc16e4c6d
Peter Badel, The Courier-Mail
April 6, 2019 6:00pm
Kalyn Ponga has begun negotiations with Newcastle hierarchy on a proposed $6 million contract that will keep the Maroons whizkid in the NRL and away from the clutches of the mighty All Blacks.
The Courier-Mail can reveal Ponga’s management has started preliminary talks with Knights hierarchy ahead of the Queensland Origin star’s return to fullback against the Dragons in Newcastle on Sunday.
Ponga has had an indifferent start to the 2019 season in a new role at five-eighth, but his minor blip in form won’t stop the 21-year-old becoming the next young gun to join the NRL’s elite $1 million club.
The new deal will represent the richest contract in Newcastle’s 31-year history. It would eclipse David Klemmer’s $4.3m mega deal, signed last November, and see Ponga financially surge past the Knights’ greatest playmakers — the famous Johns brothers, Matthew and NRL Immortal Andrew.
Ponga is currently contracted to Newcastle until the end of 2021, with an option in his favour for the following season. But the former Cowboys sensation is so content at his new club he sees a longer-term future at Newcastle and the Knights are amenable to an upgrade.
Newcastle bosses have not discussed figures at this stage but have indicated they would like to extend Ponga beyond 2022. The rookie’s management is keen to broker an extension until at least the end of 2024, when Ponga turns 26.
Under the proposal, Ponga’s salary this season, around $750,000, would not change. But a beefed-up five or six-year extension would see Ponga earn up to $1.2 million annually, a salary package that would make a poaching threat from New Zealand rugby seriously prohibitive.
There are suggestions Ponga is worth $1.5m on the open market, but the Knights would likely baulk at such a figure given the constraints of the NRL’s $9.6m salary cap.
The Knights ace was last year linked with a shock move to play rugby for New Zealand, the birthplace of his father Andre, but the Ponga camp are not entertaining any notion of an All Blacks defection.
It is understood Ponga’s management will formalise the upgrade this season, preferably before the completion of the Origin series in July.
Ponga told The Sunday Mail he was relishing life in Newcastle after the emotional anguish of the toughest call of his young career — telling Cowboys superstar Johnathan Thurston he would be leaving Townsville.
“I’m really happy at the Knights,” said Ponga, who plays his 24th game for Newcastle on Sunday and just his 33rd NRL game overall.
“I didn’t think I would establish myself at Newcastle as quickly as I have.
“It’s been awesome. I’ve learnt a lot on and off the field. It’s been a good move … the right move.
“To be honest, it would have been the easier option to stay (at the Cowboys), but I had faith in myself and my family backed me. I felt confident with what I was doing.”
The Cowboys were carefully grooming Ponga to succeed Thurston. The mentoring plan was humming along when Thurston was left stunned by Ponga’s Knights bombshell.
“It was definitely hard to walk away from the Cowboys,” he said. “They had a bloke like ‘Jonno’ who was such a huge figure and I was doing some mentoring with him.
“We had a chat. I told him I was leaving.
“He respected what I said. He had his views. What I chose probably wasn’t what ‘JT’ wanted to hear but I’d like to think he is happy for me now.
“Going to a different city with a struggling team (Newcastle was a tough call, but I was confident I could make it work.”
While he played nine games for the Cowboys, Ponga’s sizzling 2018 campaign with the Knights represented his first full season of NRL. Almost overnight, he became a State of Origin star, but Ponga is determined not to become a bighead. He is not seduced by success. He is adamant he will not be a victim of second-year syndrome.
“I’ve heard about that term,” he says.
“I haven’t watched anyone myself and thought they were great in their rookie year, but geez, they suck this year.
“I’m not worried about the negatives. I’ve always looked for positives in life so that’s the way I will approach this year.
“My humility comes from my family. My dad has a lot of brothers and I’ve always had them to keep me in line. Any time dad saw things going to my head, he pulled my head in very quickly.
“I’ve still got a long way to go. I’m still keen, still working hard. I don’t want to get to the end of my career thinking, ‘Far out, I should have done this, I should have improved in this area’.
“I always want to get better. As long as I keep that mindset, I’ll keep getting better.”
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/teams/knights/kalyn-ponga-in-talks-with-newcastle-over-6m-new-contract/news-story/c8537860c9d02eadee33ce7cc16e4c6d
Grandpa Joe - Prev Lord
Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
I know you can't guarantee 3rd parties but do a handshake anyway. $500k TPA, $750k under cap.
88Knight4life
Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
Suggestions Ponga is worth 1.5 mil hahahahaha by who? The courier mail?
A 30 game veteran worth 1.5 mil.
That makes TPJ 1 mil a fair deal.
A 30 game veteran worth 1.5 mil.
That makes TPJ 1 mil a fair deal.
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As a young superstar who doesn’t have a DH personality and off field issues Ponga can make as much as he wants off the field through third party deals and I expect him to be approached with offers as such.
But anything else in regards to actual figures is pure guesswork by the media as we already know so I never look into it too much what they say unless it comes from one of our guys.
But anything else in regards to actual figures is pure guesswork by the media as we already know so I never look into it too much what they say unless it comes from one of our guys.
Joshhh
Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
On the open market. Could definitely see offers upwards of that if he decided to test the market.
Billy
Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
I saw an article yesterday that said Pearce was on a million a year.
All the article I've read recently have speculated that sides could barely afford 1 million dollar player, and probably would be better off if they had none and went for depth instead - so I can't see how we can afford Pearce and Ponga once Ponga's new contract kicks in, which might be 2 years away still, depending on how they arrange it.
All the article I've read recently have speculated that sides could barely afford 1 million dollar player, and probably would be better off if they had none and went for depth instead - so I can't see how we can afford Pearce and Ponga once Ponga's new contract kicks in, which might be 2 years away still, depending on how they arrange it.
Kurriboy
Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
Who knows, media tend to get the contract figures wrong most cases I see, and they could be factoring in TPA value as well.
Signing Kalyn here the media went burko with all sorts of contract value speculation which was debunked. I can't see Wests mis-managing the cap, they seem fairly smooth operators.
Joshhh
Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
Might be going the Melbourne route with an expensive core & cheap good value contracts surrounding them. Pearce, Ponga & Klemmer will all be on super money. At the moment I would say most of our contracts bar a few you'd assume are decent value. They'll have to be smart managing everything for the next few years.
Kurriboy
Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
Maybe, the problem with that plan here, is at Melbourne they have a much higher expectation of results than we do at the Knights. Bellamy does not stand for mediocrity in any aspect of the team. Here, unfortunately it appears expected.
But, I do believe that is what we need to be doing. Klem will drive our team forward, if the spint can function well, we don't need a great deal from the rest, just perform to a decent level really.
Amazing how widespread the acceptance of mediocrity is amongst the Knights faithful.
Pretty sure every single contract figures the media have quoted on regarding the Knights have been wrong, that hasn't come from one of the Knights guys first.
We're not going to be giving guys like Sio an extra $30k for no reason so I'm fine with the direction the club is headed in cap wise.
Grandpa Joe - Prev Lord
Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus
Look at it this way guys, if Sione is worth $650k or $700k is it really that bad $1.2 million for Sione with a decent chunk in TPA's?
Atleast Kalyn is fast, can pass and can tackle?
Atleast Kalyn is fast, can pass and can tackle?
Do you mean $650k/$700k per year for Sione? I agree with your point regarding Kalyn, but not sure Sione is getting that much per year.