Johns v Smith: The Interview

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Johns v Smith: The Interview
February 17, 2008 12:00am

HAVING battled injury and depression for much of last year, the coming season has brought new hope for Parramatta halfback Tim Smith. He opens up to Andrew Johns.

Q. You have come through a pretty tough off-season, mate. How are you now?

A. Yeah, feeling pretty good at the moment. Still coming off a shoulder injury as well, so a lot of my time has been taken up with that. But I'm going good.

Q. I didn't really mean the shoulder, mate, to be honest. More the off-field dramas you've been dealing with. The media scrutiny was intense - how did you handle that at the time?

A. Obviously it was tough at the time. I didn't know what to do, to be honest.

Q. Did you read the papers? Did you know what was being written about you?

A. No. Since my first little incident, I've learned to not read the papers. But I've had a lot of good people around me who have helped me and the club has been good as well, so I've just got to make sure I learn from it.

Q. What about people in the street pulling you up and having a go at you?

A. You're always going to have a few knockers out there but, to be honest with you, I don't really care what they have to say. I've just got to move on.

Q. From my own experience, all that pressure can take a pretty big toll, which the average bloke finds hard to understand. How have you handled it?

A. Like I said before, it's been pretty tough. I think I just tried to put myself around people who were supportive, and my family and friends did that for me. Obviously it was a tough time, only being a young bloke, but you've got to move on and that's what I'm trying to do.

Q. During that low period after you got yourself into trouble, did you fear your career with the Eels might be over?

A. It went through my mind, for sure, and I was sort of dreading it because the club has been so good to me. But like I said, the club's been great - they've looked after me and helped me through a lot, so hopefully I can repay them this year.

Q. So you feel a little bit indebted to the club for the way they've supported you and stood by you? Maybe you could repay them with a premiership?

A. I'd definitely love to repay them with a premiership. But first, I just want to do the right thing, put the dramas behind me and get back on the field and do my best to help the club.

Q. Did you ever feel like getting up and walking away from the game altogether during all the drama?

A. There were times, yeah ... being only 22, that sort of pressure can get to you if you let it.
I didn't really want it or know how to handle it. But when I thought about it, if I didn't have footy then I wouldn't have too much else going on. But I had a good, long think about what I should do and I know I've made the right choice.

Q. You touched on the support from the club. What about from your family and friends?

A. Mum and dad were top notch and helped me through a lot. A few of my mates helped me as well, but I guess it all comes back to me in the end. I've just got to bite the bullet and face up to things. In saying that, family were definitely a big key in helping me get through it.

Q. Sorry to touch on it, mate, because I know you don't want to talk about it, but everyone knows you spent a little bit of time in rehabilitation. What lessons did you learn about yourself in there?

A. I think I learned a lot of people are a lot worse off than what we are.

Joey interrupts: We? (laughs)

Oh sorry, mate, I meant me. No, look, obviously it was a really tough little stint there but, like I said - and I'm going to keep saying whenever I'm asked - I don't want to dwell on it any more. It's over and I just want to move forward.

Q. Parra fans will want to know: do you have everything under control in your personal life now and can you put that into 100 per cent concentration on footy?

A. I think I'm going pretty well. I'm putting all my energy into getting back on the field. If I didn't have footy I'd be struggling, so if I can just put all my energy into that, I'll be in a good place. And maybe do some surfing.

Q. You touched on surfing. Is that a real escape from the pressure, and does it keep you on that even keel?

A. I think you'd know ... you get treated differently out there. You're not a footballer, you're just one of the boys. It's definitely an escape and I enjoy getting out there whenever I can.

Q. Take me back to your first season in '05. You were the rookie of the year and sort of blew everyone's mind that year. Playing for Parra in the seven jersey, there were even comparisons to the great Peter Sterling. How hard was that to handle?

A. During that year, it didn't really bother me at all but obviously the next year, I probably read one or two papers I shouldn't have. It ended up being a bit of a bad year but last season I went all right. Obviously there are thingsI can improve on and that's what you are here for. But if I can just get out there and get myself in a good place, hopefully we can get a premiership at the end of the year.

Q. As a halfback, are you looking to change anything about the way you play?

A. Obviously, there has been a lot of stuff about me running the ball and there are a few little things I have to change in the way I do things with the ball. I really want to get my defence right up there as well and not be such a target.

Q. I don't think anyone can question your toughness. You played through the semi-finals last season even though your shoulder was popping out at training.

A. It was going in and out but it wasn't too bad. A lot of other blokes out there had the same sort of injury. It was a bit of a distraction, but that's footy.

Q. You had the reconstruction done, when will you be right to play?

A. I wouldn't mind getting back for the New Zealand game over there (round two) or the following week at home against the Knights.

Q. What about the future? You came down from the Gold Coast - any thoughts about maybe going back and playing with the Titans at some stage?

A. Not really. I've always said to myself that I want to be a one-club player, as they say. I think that's how premierships are won and I think we have a pretty good base here at the Eels at the moment and hopefully we can all stick together.

Q. Last question, Tim: any final words for Eels fans?

A. Hopefully we're going to have a big year, so get out and support us as much as you can.

Joey: Appreciate your time and honesty, mate.

Smith: Thanks, mate.
 
knight-no-7 said:
A. I think I learned a lot of people are a lot worse off than what we are.

Joey interrupts: We? (laughs)

:lol: I can imagine the look on joeys face when he said that haha.

But yeah good luck to Tim Smith this year i dont mind him as a player.

Also any news on Luke burts knee? He did something really bad to it in one of the final rounds right?
 
im pretty sure luke burt should be right he hurt his knee against newcastle and there was talk him returning for parra in the semis last year i think but he didnt
 
Eels hail coach Joey
Greg Prichard | March 3, 2008

JARRYD HAYNE has revealed the influence Andrew Johns is having on Parramatta as the Eels prepare to emulate defending premiers Melbourne.

Parramatta showed they were on track for a fast start to the competition when they defeated Sydney Roosters in a trial game at Central Coast Stadium on Saturday night. Afterwards, representative star Hayne said Johns had helped sharpen the team's attack and convinced them of the need for persistence.

Several NRL clubs employ Johns to work with the players who handle the ball most - halfbacks, five-eighths and hookers - but it is clear from what Hayne says that the former Newcastle, NSW and Australian halfback is making a far greater impression than his job description suggests.

Eels coach Michael Hagan, who coached Johns for half of his first-grade career at Newcastle, knew of his potential when he employed him, and Johns feels comfortable enough under Hagan to spread his wings.

"Joey has done a lot of work with the whole team, not just the halves, and it is really showing with the way we're playing," Hayne said. "He teaches the halves and then he explains to the rest of us what we should expect from them and how best to react. He's really good at breaking things down and making them seem simple.

"You can see the effect he's having on guys in terms of their skill and knowing what to do - Feleti [Mateo] has come from the back row to play five-eighth and he's blitzing them.

"Joey says the reason Melbourne are so good is that they are so persistent - they do the simple things well and they don't let mistakes bother them. If something doesn't work on one occasion, they don't go off it, they keep at it. We're working at putting that persistence into our game. We play a similar style to Melbourne and we've got a good chance to go at them this year."

It was clear from the nature of their win over the Roosters that the Eels have had a very productive off-season. One of their six tries was remarkable. Hooker Mark Riddell angled out of dummy half and found a charging Mateo, who burst through a gap before throwing a cut-out pass to halfback Brett Finch. Replacement prop Josh Cordoba received the next pass to score.

"We've been doing a lot of stuff as good as that at training," Hayne said. "And we're bringing it to the game. We've been training well and when you train well you play well. There is still stuff we've got to work on - we've pushed the pass a bit too much at times - but our trials have been solid efforts."

Parramatta conceded three tries, but two came after they had kicked away to lead 28-6 midway through the second half. Their intensity appeared to drop for 10 minutes after that, but for the most part their defence was excellent.

"We defended our line for six sets in a row at one stage, which was great," Hayne said. "There were times last year when our defence was a bit dusty, so we need to be more consistent in that area."
 
it's dejavu for HAGAN'

Looks like joey is running the show again like he did with the knights when he was here

I reckon joey would make a fine coach in the future :)
 
Meet the next super coach

Andrew Johns's success as a halves coach has everyone guessing when he will be the boss, writes Greg Prichard

Andrew Johns has been coaching, in a specialist capacity, for three months - but the jury has already returned its verdict on whether he could cut it as a head coach. The result is a resounding yes.

The question that remains is whether Joey would want to take that responsibility. He has always said he wouldn't - but he wouldn't be the first to change his mind.

Those with whom Johns is working in his new role would not be surprised if he yearned for more.

Johns - whose life took a dramatic turn last year with his injury-forced retirement followed by admissions of drug and drinking problems and the revelation he had bipolar disorder - began working with five-eighths, halfbacks and hookers at Parramatta on December 4. He then took on similar roles at Newcastle and the Bulldogs.

It is probably no coincidence that the three coaches who employ Johns - Michael Hagan, Brian Smith and Steve Folkes - are all established and successful. Younger, less experienced coaches might feel insecure about having a living legend on their coaching staff, although Smith says: "If you've got a hang-up about that sort of thing, then you shouldn't be doing the job. Everyone has got to rely on other people with expertise."

Johns, the former Newcastle, NSW and Australia halfback and captain, may be a rookie in terms of his coaching, but his influence is growing. Eels coach Hagan had worked with Johns in a coach-player relationship at Newcastle for six years from 2001, and allowed Johns to have a big influence there. At Parramatta, the boundaries of Joey's involvement have already expanded to give him control an entire session - under Hagan's watch - once a week.

Parramatta five-eighth Brett Finch has been around, but he sounds like an excited rookie when he talks about working with Johns.

"His influence is enormous," Finch says. "His knowledge is unbelievable. I'm sure that, when I get the chance to show it, I'm going to look like a better player through working with him."

The Knights rookie halfback Scott Dureau says: "His coaching has been second to none. It's been fantastic for me. Joey's understanding of the game is the best I've ever seen."

Johns is not trying to reinvent the wheel. He's just good at what he does.

He drills the ballplayers on which lines to run, which plays to use, how to hold their body shape, which kicks to use in certain areas, what to do when the play-the-balls are fast and when they're slow. Then he takes the rest of the team and explains what he has instructed the playmakers to do and how they should react. It helps their decision-making, which Johns was always best at as a player.

There have been goalkicking coaches, such as Daryl Halligan, for years, so why not a specialist coach of halves and hookers? It makes sense.

"He's really enjoying it," Matthew Johns says of his brother. "The fire in the belly doesn't suddenly go out when you retire. He's got so many ideas on the game, and you need somewhere to funnel those."

Matthew may be best known now as a television star, but he also made a name as a specialist coach at Melbourne, where he helped halfback Cooper Cronk.

"The difference between the best players and the ones who are just pretty good is only slight," Matthew says. "The subtleties are the only difference, but for a head coach that sort of specialist stuff is difficult because he's got so much else on his plate. Bringing someone in like Joey, who can cover that, makes a big, big difference to a team."

Hagan says Johns is a good communicator. "Joey gets his point across really well," Hagan says. "And the players respond to him exactly as you would hope."

Johns takes part in video sessions at Parramatta. And he can be seen standing alongside Smith during ballwork sessions at Newcastle, chipping in with his thoughts.

"A lot of guys in footy know when something works, but they don't know how or why," Smith says. "He knows how and why, and he can communicate that to the players."

Bulldogs coach Steve Folkes invited Johns to watch the team in its final trial game against Penrith last Sunday then had him talk about it at training on Tuesday. "Joey tailors his individual coaching to fall into line with the structure we're using," Folkes says. "Then he puts on his unique touches as a great halfback. It's working well."

Johns is a few days shy of clocking up 100 in the coaching business. Somewhere down the track, he will be tempted to become a head coach. He may have been adamant a head coach's hat was not for his head, but so was Brad Fittler.

"It wasn't until I finished playing that I thought seriously about whether I wanted to be a coach," Fittler says. "I decided it was the job I was best equipped to do, so I warmed to it. Joey is putting his toe in the water."

Everyone the Herald spoke to said there was no question of whether Johns had the ability to be a head coach. His club and representative teammate Danny Buderus said Johns had a "great coach's mind". Hagan said stepping up "wouldn't be a problem". Finch said Johns would "do it on his ear". But Johns had to decide whether it was for him. So, for a while, the question remains: Will he or won't he?

Hagan says Johns would want to continue to be challenged. Buderus says Joey is enjoying it and might want to take it further. Matthew says his brother is a "big enough boy" to handle the aspects of a coach's job that has turned him off it in the past.

"He's certainly got the right temperament for coaching," Matthew laughs. "Coaches are three parts crazy, so he's nine-tenths of the way there. The madder you are, the better you go. He could win six or seven premierships in a row." :lol:

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