Cronulla Sharks salary cap breaches

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  1. R_A

    R_A Sean Rudder

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    The Sharks have lost multiple members of their backline, and two of them to us. And they replaced them with Josh Morris, lol.

    Yep. Pretty ridiculous. It's like the Storm scandal scared the NRL into handing harsh punishments again because it would hurt the game.
     
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    rhugh89 Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus Staff Member Admin

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    From Fox Sports

    More details are emerging on the Cronulla Sharks’ financial woes, after the club yesterday sacked 10 staff members following a $3 million loss on the 2018 season.

    That move should save $1.5 million, but the club faces around a $2 million revenue hit after the loss of key sponsors Opal Solar (front of jersey), Bang and Olufsen (back), and Martec (sleeves).

    According to The Daily Telegraph, the club nearly secured a $6 million major sponsor for the next five years, but it fell through following Andrew Fifita and Josh Dugan’s antics on a podcast three months ago.

    NRL boss Todd Greenberg confirmed there would be no more cash coming from the governing body to bail out the Sharks.

    “We’re keeping a very close eye on the issues at Cronulla. I’m confident in their leadership that they’ll do what’s required,” he said.

    “I’m on record as saying and I’ll say it again — the NRL will not be bailing out clubs in the next phase of their financial cycle. They’re matters for clubs.

    “Clearly Cronulla are going through a difficult spot but we’re confident they’ll find their way through it.”

    Asked what would happen if the club did go require financial assistance or risk collapse, Greenberg said: “That’s a question for the club.

    “But I don’t see that being a reality at the moment. I see them making some hard financial decisions in order to ensure their financial stability.

    Pressed on whether relocation was an option, Greenberg said: “I’m not going to talk about what-if or what might happen.

    “What I’m saying to you is that Cronulla are going through some difficulties and they’re managing their way through that.”


    https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nr...s/news-story/a7168293e530810cc589ce117a159660
     
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    R_A Sean Rudder

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    I noticed in the SMH today they reported Val Holmes partner had a job at Cronulla Leagues she was asked to leave as soon as Holmes announced he was leaving. Nothing suss about that at all, sounds like a totally legitimate role.
     
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    She had a media role for the last 2 or so years I believe.
     
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    R_A Sean Rudder

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    James Hooper was on FSN saying he thinks Sharks coach Shane Flanagan will be deregistered by the NRL next week for his role in the salary cap rort.

    Yeah was claimed she had a good relationship with the club. And did not leave on bad terms. Hmmm

    Also Hooper was saying the NRL Commission is meeting next week to finalize the punishment for the Sharks.

    Like any report associated with a Telecrap reporter take it with a grain of salt until it's actually confirmed.
     
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    rhugh89 Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus Staff Member Admin

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    rhugh89 Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus Staff Member Admin

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    From Fox Sports

    Shane Flanagan’s coaching future will be decided on Tuesday at Rugby League Headquarters however it’s unlikely to be revealed until 24 hours later.

    It’s believed NRL CEO Todd Greenberg on Tuesday will put forward to the ARL Commission (ARLC) proposed sanctions against the Cronulla coach for defying a 2014 ban from the game.

    Various media outlets are reporting that Flanagan can expect to be rubbed out of the game.


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    Frank McWilliams Sean Rudder

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    Serious matter when ban in place is ignored. Both Flanagan and Board Members at fault for supplying and receiving information in direct conflict with the bans. Hard to know what penalty would be suitable but whatever it is should be adhered to by all at Cronulla.
     
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    rhugh89 Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus Staff Member Admin

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    Report: Shane Flanagan set to be banned from NRL


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    December 18, 2018 9:42pm



    Under-fire Sharks coach Shane Flanagan will face the full force of the ARLC tomorrow and will reportedly cop an indefinite ban from the NRL over his latest controversy.

    The premiership-winning coach made headlines this month after allegations of him communicating with club officials during his 2014 ban, which had expressly forbidden contact with Sharks staff, surfaced.

    “According to sources, the NRL believes it had no choice but to indefinitely deregister Flanagan, rather than just impose another 12-month ban, because he blatantly ignored the previous suspension,” the Daily Telegraph reported Tuesday night.

    An NRL investigation reportedly revealed Flanagan “regularly ignored the strict terms of the 12-month ban imposed on him over Cronulla’s peptide scandal in 2011”.

    It is understood Flanagan will be slapped with a breach notice, pulling him forward to convince the commission why he shouldn’t be rubbed out of the game indefinitely.

    The governing body declined to comment on the matter on Tuesday. Any ban would force the Sharks to hire a new head coach, with a number of candidates already being mentioned as possible appointments.

    Manly coach Trent Barrett is reportedly an option, as is Sharks current assistant John Morris and Sydney Roosters counterpart Adam O’Brien.


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    rhugh89 Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus Staff Member Admin

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    NRL announces ‘disrespectful’ Shane Flanagan is deregistered


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    Sharks coach Shane Flanagan has been deregistered by the NRL.

    NRL boss Todd Greenberg on Wednesday confirmed disciplinary action against Flanagan following revelations the Cronulla mentor breached the terms of his 2014 season suspension, stemming from the club’s infamous supplements scandal.

    Flanagan’s deregistration has been followed up by an extraordinary $800,000 fine issued to the Sharks.

    The NRL has issued the Sharks a secondary $400,000 fine on top of the suspended $400,000 fine hanging over the club’s head since governance failings were first uncovered during the club’s supplements scandal.

    Greenberg said he had no choice but to deregister Flanagan after considering all the evidence.

    “Mr Flanagan was in contact closely and constantly with the club during his suspension,” he said.

    “As a result we’ve issued the club with a breach notice today, proposing a fine of $400,000.”

    It came as the NRL also handed down a $750,000 fine and a $639,000 salary cap reduction penalty to the Wests Tigers over an improperly disclosed ambassadorial deal with veteran Robbie Farah.

    Greenberg confirmed the NRL integrity unit discovered emails through the club’s data server that shows Flanagan was in regular contact with club officials during his suspension in 2014.

    His first correspondence was sent just weeks after his suspension and continued all the way to September 2014.

    The club is believed to have initiated most of the discussions, resulting in the extra $400,000 fine.

    However, no other clubs officials have been punished because then-CEO Steve Noyce and then-football manager Darren Mooney are no longer NRL officials.

    The evidence was uncovered during the integrity unit’s investigation into the Sharks’ 2015 salary cap breaches.

    The salary cap investigation is expected to drag into 2019.

    Greenberg said he was prepared to take action against Flanagan immediately — following a terse conversation with the now-deregistered coach.

    When asked to describe Flanagan’s behaviour during his ban, Greenberg said: “Disrespectful.

    “I offered Shane the opportunity to come in and meet with us face to face, he declined.

    “I did speak with him over the phone this morning. I won’t share with you the conversation. It should remain private, but it was a short conversation.”

    The Daily Telegraph’s Phil Rothfield on Wednesday told Macquarie Sports Radio, Flanagan’s breach notice will allow him a chance to show cause why the NRL should not enforce an indefinite ban from the game.

    Flanagan and the club have until the end of January to respond to a breach notice, which is when the NRL will make its final determination.

    However, the Sharks will have to overturn evidence found by the NRL integrity unit that more than 50 emails were sent by Flanagan concerning retention and recruitment.

    Despite having an opportunity to defend himself against the NRL integrity unit claims against him, the deregistration will reportedly be the end of the 2016 premiership-winning coach’s career in the NRL.

    Reports emerged earlier this week Flanagan is likely to walk away from the game if the NRL moved to ban him from the 2019 season.

    Flanagan was contracted at the Sharks through to the end of 2019.

    The ban will force the Sharks to hire a new head coach, with a number of candidates already being mentioned as possible appointments.

    Manly coach Trent Barrett is reportedly an option, as is Sharks current assistant John Morris and Sydney Roosters counterpart Adam O’Brien.

    Having been forced to make a series of senior positions redundant after losing most of its top-tier jersey sponsorship deals heading into 2019, there are fears the fine could bring the club to its knees.

    “That would just about wind them up,” The Daily Telegraph’s Dean Ritchie told Sky Sports Radio on Wednesday.

    Cronulla CEO Barry Russell will hold a media conference to respond to his club’s punishment from 1.30pm (AEDT).


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  11. Hughburt6

    Hughburt6 David Fa'alogo

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    Anyone else think Mooney knew this was coming and is the reason he stepped down?
     
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    R_A Sean Rudder

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    I feel like Shane Flanagan is set up to be the fall guy for everything the Sharks have done and it is absolutely ridiculous that they are not stripped of their premiereship or punished other then a roughly 1.6m fine, some of which they'll make back by not having to pay Flanno and hiring a coach on half his price tag.
    And the Tigers get a reduced salary cap because they didnt report the Farah which they should cop flak for but it seems so inconsistent considering Manly got a similar punishment for deliberately cheating the salary cap.

    Barry Russell also elluded that there have been further salary cap issues since the self report.
     
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    R_A Sean Rudder

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    Has there ever been more of a deserving 'drop the hammer' style of punishment on Shane Flanagan? and then some

    - Within a month he was emailing Sharks officials about everything involving running the club, quite literally nearly every aspect
    - Was allowed to return after completing all the approved governance and team management courses - WHILST BREAKING THE RULES THE WHOLE TIME
    - The Sharks even contacted the NRL to see if Flanagan's suspension could be relaxed

    Life ban is the only reasonable outcome

    Explains why Holmes went to NFL, and why Lewis retired.
     
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    Should never have been allowed back in the game in the first place. The first and foremost job for a coach is look after the welfare of the players in the workplace and Flanagan failed to do this and allowed experimental drugs be injected into his players which we won’t know the full extent of damage done to those players for sometime.
     
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    member 2299 Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    Of course Mr Turdburg is such an expert on these matters from his days as CEO of the Doggies, one of the biggest rorters in the game!

    The medical team at the Sharkies should have been well aware of what was going on and Flanagan was the only one hit with a real penalty. Others including leading players took the option of admitting to their cheating and got a silly few weeks suspension at the end of the season.
     
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    Agree with most of what you say but stretching it a bit with Holmes and Lewis could be a case of chasing a dream and retirement.
     
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    R_A Sean Rudder

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    Yeah ill admit that was a bit of an added sauce, but it is funny how Holmes getting released right before all this went down.

    Anyway not sure if we'll ever get to the whole truth down in that rabbit hole but hopefully once all this appeal nonsense is done they throw the book at Flanagan.
     
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    Billy Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    John Morris seems to be one of 3 or 4 possible coaches.
    He has built up a remarkable CV, with top academic qualifications to go with his coaching record.
    I can't recall any other Knights junior getting a head coach job, except for Morris and Buderus being caretaker coaches in the past.
     
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    From the SMH

    Cronulla’s entire squad has been barred by one of the Sutherland Shire’s most popular nightspots as a result of a late-night incident that the Sharks and police are investigating.

    The Herald can reveal Cronulla Sailing Club has taken the extraordinary step of telling the area’s NRL club that their players are no longer welcome there.

    The blacklisting comes after an altercation on the night of December 21 in which a series of scuffles are understood to have broken out across the venue involving lower-grade players, prompting police to be called.

    The Sharks have been investigating the incident since before Christmas and are yet to determine whether to begin disciplinary proceedings with any players.

    The action taken by the sailing club – which, like the Sharks, is considered an institution in the Shire – has led to speculation that the episode may have been more serious than a fracas involving lower-graders.

    The Herald has been told there were also first-grade players at the sailing club on the night who did not intervene.

    Sharks chief executive Barry Russell said on Friday the club was treating it “very seriously”.

    “I can confirm there was an incident, which is being investigated by the club. The club has informed the [NRL] integrity unit and is working with police with their investigation,” he said. “We will take the appropriate action once the investigation is concluded.”

    Cronulla Sailing Club licensee Ken McKay, a former NSW Police Assistant Commissioner, was also tight-lipped about what transpired at his venue before Christmas.

    “There will be no comment from the Cronulla Sailing Club as there is a current and ongoing investigation being conducted by the Licensing Police at Cronulla as well as an investigation being conducted by the CEO at the Sharks,” McKay said in a text message.


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    member 2299 Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    Footballers and late booze is a very poor mix.
     
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