Discussion in 'Knights Signings, Rumours & Player Movement' started by Defender1, Sep 27, 2020.
There is also the young asi fellow who has a fair few wraps. Maybe he sees a lot in him?
You are correct. Billy is off the mark as usual. Zammit is a scout and had nothing to do with being a list/squad manager at the Cowboys.
Green won a premiership and I’ll forever thank him for that but he set this club back 5 years at a minimum.
Someone posted on the Cowboys forum a couple days how far the Cowboys have come (or gone backwards) compared to Penrith when it was only a couple years ago we were the two best junior sides in the country.
2015 we won the title and the club championship (NRL + NYC combined points tally), won the schoolboys national title and won QCup.
Our U20’s were by far and away the best 2 sides towards the end of the NYC comp, Kirwan won the national schoolboys title again in 2017 I believe and while 6-8 of the Penrith junior rep sides of 2017/18 were playing in a GF for Penrith yesterday we have a solid 5-6 FG/rep standard guys from those years playing for other NRL sides and the ones we have kept haven’t progressed which is solely down to Green.
It’s criminal what he did to the club and how he got away with it for so long without the media attention is astounding.
Not sure what the go is with Clifford as he definitely showed enough towards the backend of the season that there is talent and a FG half there if the forwards hold their own.
Clifford's defensive stats aren't very impressive.
His tackle efficiency this year is 80% and it looks like that is a big improvement on Last year.
Mason Lino was nearly 82% this year, and Hoy and Crossland both 83%.
Kurt Mann had over 88% tackle efficiency and was averaging nearly double the number of tackles as Clifford - but a good part of the was playing hooker for half the season.
Clifford is 6'1" and 95kg so he shouldn't have a problem defending, but it does look like he'll need to work on that.
"Green won a premiership and I’ll forever thank him for that but he set this club back 5 years at a minimum."
Sounds like how I feel about Michael Hagan. Difference is probably Green had more work to do to gain the premiership.
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All this stuff is probably just silly season rumours.
The knights don't give away anything for the last few years.
Tuala, Shibasaki, Frizzel, McCullough and even Green were all guys we found out about a day or two before they were doing interviews in Knights Jerseys.
I get a feeling there is a bit more to the Clifford one, there has been nothing said out of the organisation though.
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Yeah, i'm feeling confident with Clifford. We haven't heard anything from the club, and have had no denials from Cows or Clifford.
Nothing from the cowgirls hosing it down either.
Newcastle Knights coach insists Mitchell Pearce is part of the club's future
By Craig Hamilton and Carly Cook
Posted 1hhour ago
The Knights want to extend Mitchell Pearce's contract beyond 2021.(AAP: Darren Pateman)
Newcastle Knights coach Adam O'Brien insists Mitchell Pearce is part of the club's future as rumours about the halfback's plans continue to swirl.
Mitchell Pearce is contracted to the Newcastle Knights until the end of the 2021 season
The club is eager to extend Pearce's contract, but there have been persistent rumours that he could return to the Roosters
Knights coach Adam O'Brien is set to meet with Pearce to discuss the future
Pearce is contracted to the Knights until the end of next season, but in recent weeks he has been linked to his former club the Sydney Roosters, where he played 11 NRL seasons.
Expectations of a possible return were heightened after Roosters halfback Kyle Flanagan was released to join the Bulldogs on a three-year deal.
But O'Brien says he will meet with Pearce soon to discuss extending his contract.
"He's got a business and a wedding to plan at the moment," O'Brien said.
"I've assured him the club will be sitting down with him to work out his future, which I'm sure is going to be here with the Knights.
"We want him here and he's an important part of this club — I don't know how much more clearer I can be on that."
Pearce's coach is adamant the halfback won't be donning a Roosters jersey anytime soon.(AAP: Dean Lewins)
Pay cut chat hosed down
Reports had suggested Pearce – one of the club's highest-paid players – would be asked to take a pay cut, but O’Brien said there were measures in place to manage the salary cap.
He said the negotiation was about looking beyond next year and making sound decisions.
"That's why we're not rushing into anything until we can sit down with Mitchell and find out where he sees things and then where we see things," O'Brien said.
"It's just a matter of taking baby steps.
"When he comes back and everybody is comfortable we'll sit down and get it done.
"He's on contract for next year — it will certainly be done before then."
Despite the media reports, O’Brien is confident Pearce will remain at the Knights.
"With only the one game to talk about last week I think it's easy for most journalists to jump on the back of this story," he said.
"It seems to be one article feeding the other."
This article is written by Craig Hamilton, so I believe it to be factual.
The Townsville Bulletin has reported today that Jake Clifford has asked for a release from the Cowboys but the club’s management are tight lipped over the situation. I can’t read the test of the article because I’m not a member.
It won't surprise me if Clifford is a direct replacement for Lino and will be Pearce's understudy.
I think Pearce would have been rested for maybe 5 games at least this year if we had a credible number 7 up our sleeve.
Pearce isn't getting any younger. Clifford could get half the season next year as a 7.
Apparently Tigers throwing their hat in the ring for Clifford as well.
To be fair coach's don't normally coming out throwing fists defending fringe first graders.
Hagan pretty much walked into a team that was ready to win a premiereship as shown the previous year minus Wok's mediorce past his used by date coaching.
At least Green/Parr and the Cowboys made moves to give Thurston help and make them better gearing them up for those 2015-2018 window years as opposed to Hagan who made the team worse but still made the finals in his last year there because of Joey's brilliance.
Probably because the Broncos got all the media attention with Seibold this time around, even though admittedly Green underachieved in the past with said roster/retention as well.
O’Brien says “there were measures in place to manage the salary cap.” Clifford would command decent money, interesting to know where his money would come from as club has stated previously that Glasby’s contract money will be directed towards acquiring another middle. Could Sione’s rumoured release to ESL be contingent upon club acquiring a quality 5/8? Lino, King and Moga have not be resigned, however there money would assist Ponga’s upgrade
Would love to have Clifford here. Would take a great deal of pressure off of Pearce.
Surely the thought of having Pearce covered by Clifford for possibly half the season is ridiculous, paying top dollar for a 7 to play half a season and considering an extension to him. So will we offer him $500k to play quarter a season?
Green was doing his thing long before Seibold arrived in town. He got well and truely looked after by the media.
Guerra, Ese Ese, Glasby, Lino and Moga are all gone freeing up a fair purse. We have money to spend on a 6 and a couple of forwards...
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