2019 Pre Season and Trials

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  1. packo

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    Yep that’s got to get addressed. Every time he gets the ball he’s a handfull.
     
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    Matty23 Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    Watson looks much more dangerous as a running back, the only thing he needs to work on is controlling the ball. He looks certain to score half the time only he comes up with an error nearly every opportunity he gets. Glasby looks like he solidify our middle, getting guys on their backs and slowing down the play the ball is a strength of his. I like Gavet so far, just has a few niggling penalties. Levi is going to be our biggest improver this season I think. Mann looked decent on the wing, just need better communication on our edges and more early ball and we’ll be real exciting to watch.
     
  3. Ljackson

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    I hope that arse kicking is the bitter pill our team needs right before the season kicks off.

    The sign of a champion team is how they bounce back from disappointment, so I hope the boys all rip in @ training . Because we’ve got redemption in less than 2 weeks time.
     
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    Billy Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    slotmachine Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    On first viewing I had that bust up the middle on Guerra and Fitz, but sounds like they were just doing their best to plug the gap left by Herman.
    He was super good last year but definitely had a lazy effort in him at times. Not sure a bench of mann, guerra, dan and barnett/sione excites me too much though.
     
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    Barnett is fine. He’s just an easy target because he makes the odd error and has been here for a while.
     
  8. Billy

    Billy Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    Star To'a is being described as a winger in every article I read.
    Not sure how he'd feel about that.
    He has been at fullback or centre in every game I've seen till 2 weeks ago.
    Only a few months ago he was playing fullback for Australia in the schoolboys test.
    At 18, they should let him try out all the positions he is capable of before sticking him on a wing.
     
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    slotmachine Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    Do not disagree with the coach in his assessment. Notice he doesn't mention Watson there, fullback position very concerning imo.
     
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    Lord of the Skraelings Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    2 games in and I don't think his been that bad, lets give him a couple of months before we panic.
     
  11. Billy

    Billy Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    I'm not worried about Watson.
    He had a shocker with poor handling in a trial game, but I don't remember him having a problem with ball security last year - unless you count throwing dodgy passes as poor ball security.
    He'll go OK when he stops trying too hard.
    Might say the same about Kalyn too.
    Both of them are turning the ball over a lot.
     
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    Can’t see Ese’ese missing out on top 17 went too well all of last season to not be considered, like to see Klemmer and Dan start with Gavet and Ese’ese on bench, Glasby at 13
    Am more worried about our backs with some doubts about SKD, Moga & Hunt due to injuries and if they play will they last.
     
  13. slotmachine

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    Fullback is obviously an important position. Where would you rank Watson in the NRL? At this point realistically bottom 2 or 3.
     
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    If the Knights are serious about challenging for a Premiership they can't do it with Watson at fullback the way he is currently playing. You can't win anything these days with a fullback who can't/won't pass.

    Cronulla have had this discussion. Dugan was signed as a fullback on big money but can't pass so is now exclusively a centre. Might be part of the reason Saints let him go and have subsequently gone with Widdop/Norman at fullback.

    In the last 10 grand finals the winning fullbacks have been Tedesco, Slater x 3, Barba, Coote, Inglis, Minichello/Tuivasa-Sheck, Stewart and Boyd. The losing fullbacks have been Hayne, Minichello, Locke, Barba, Stewart, Perrett, Boyd, Munster, Coote and Slater. I realise Watson is only young but excluding Locke and Perrett he is not in the same ballpark of these as a fullback and until he adds a decent pass to his game he will never get near them.

    The beauty of Ponga last year was that he is a brilliant broken field runner and kick returner but also chimed in and was a danger with his passing game on the edge. Watson has not shown any ability or desire to do the same. Until he becomes a threat with a passing option in his game I don't think the Knights can be considered a serious contender.

    Despite having a horrible first touch where he dropped a bomb and gifted Newtown a try otherwise I thought Hoy was pretty good at fullback and may be a better long term option with Watson going back with Mann as an option at 14.
     
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    Billy Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    Tedesco didn't have much of a passing game till about 2 seasons ago. He is a much better player now he has one though.
     
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    Barnett's very close to smashing someone. He looks bigger and stronger and when he gets his timing right and/or hits with his shoulder he's going to hurt someone. Brown said the team has to forget about the hype around the team I think it was too many trying too hard too impress.
     
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    Agreed. The Roosters have taken him to another level and it provides another threat in his/their game.

    That's kind of my point. Do the Knights weaken their side (in my opinion) by moving Ponga from fullback (where he is close to a superstar already) and experiment while trying to turn Watson into a top class fullback, which they need to win the comp. Or do you leave Ponga at the back and have a no frills "catch and pass" five eight like say a Blake Green or Mason Lino maybe, and have the options of Ponga still returning kicks and running in broken play but also popping up either side of the ruck and having back rowers run into the holes he creates?
     
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    I'd like to see Watson get a bit more time at fullback first. He's had limited time playing there for us, in trials no less. I agree with you regarding Ponga though. I think he's best at fullback. However, again, I'd like to see him play a bit more at 5/8 before that call is made. Ultimately, I think Ponga will go back to 1 and then Watson will be competing for the 6 or 14 jumpers.
     
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    Don't really have the luxury of time for Watson to get it right.8 weeks in and a third of the season is already gone.

    Will probably come out and get motm when we smash the sharks now.
     
  20. Billy

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    I like Hoy, but only last year he was our second best under 20s fullback behind Matt Cooper, or our 4th best in reserve grade behind Nick Meaney, Matt Cooper and Brent Naden.
     

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