Trent Estetheo on ACA

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AussieKnight said:
So his Dad forced him and he didn't want this or ?
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I wouldn't necessarily say forced, but this is a 15 year old kid we're talking about here whose dream was to one day play for the Newcastle Knights, and when the club signs you and tells you you have to bulk up and your father who you put all your trust in comes to you with these steroids and basically says this is the best thing for you and your career right now, what do you do?
 
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TippleNickler said:
That's actually not true. The Knights apparently signed him to a scholarship and said the only way he'd be playing FG in the near future is if he bulks up a lot, and Trent thought he'd just eat a lot and workout a lot, but his dad obviously had different plans and started injecting him with these animal steroids that made his body break down.
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well he was at least 17 when he was captain of flegg and at least 18 when he played firstgrade - which is 2 or 3 years after taking steroids apparently.
He was a great player then - don't know what he was like pre roids.
 
AussieKnight said:
The man should be punished.
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Maybe, maybe not :S Id partly blame Trent. I mean as a kid you learn that steroids and drugs arent the way to go and that they do you no good etc. Especially with it being stuff he picked up from the vet.
 
Roopy said:
The Knights sign heaps of kids to scholarships - and a hell of a lot of them would make the grade if they grew 15 cm and 8kg bigger.
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Yeah I know, but you're acting like they sign any old bum off the street to a scholarship. The kid obviously had talent seeing as though he got signed by the club in the first place. It's not like they hand these scholarships out at will to anyone who wants to be a Knight. They only recruit the kids who have talent and the kids who they think have the potential to develop into something down the track, which they obviously thought this kid had pre-steroids.
 
TippleNickler said:
Yeah I know, but you're acting like they sign any old bum off the street to a scholarship. The kid obviously had talent seeing as though he got signed by the club in the first place. It's not like they hand these scholarships out at will to anyone who wants to be a Knight. They only recruit the kids who have talent and the kids who they think have the potential to develop into something down the track, which they obviously thought this kid had pre-steroids.
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One in ten make firstgrade - probably less - and the number who make firstgrade at 18 - Perry, Tahu, Quinn, Mullen, Esatheo - thats all i can remember.
 
Roopy said:
One in ten make firstgrade - probably less.
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I have no idea what you're talking about honestly. You were making out like this kid was some bum with no talent until he started taking these animal steroids. Sure, they obviously made him bigger, and most probably stronger and faster, but he was obviously talented seeing as though they signed him to a scholarship in the first place.
 
Sports clubs do sign an awful lot of kids and only a small percentage of those go on to make it at the highest level of whichever sport they've chosen. The Father has a great deal to answer for - his son obviously trusted him without question and he abused that trust. The Dad was just trying to live out his own failed sports career through his son. Sad, very very sad.
 
TippleNickler said:
I have no idea what you're talking about honestly. You were making out like this kid was some bum with no talent until he started taking these animal steroids. Sure, they obviously made him bigger, and most probably stronger and faster, but he was obviously talented seeing as though they signed him to a scholarship in the first place.
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The bloke packing into the scrum next to him was Luke Quigley - add 15cm and 8kg to him and he plays for australia.
The guy packing into the scrum behind him was Blake Mueller - add 15 cm and 8kg to him and he plays for australia.
The guy feeding the scrum was Chris Tyrie - add 15cm and 8kg to him and he pushes joey out of firstgrade.

Do you even watch juniors. We have a dozen kids with the same story every year. They would all be fantastic on steroids.
 
Roopy said:
The bloke packing into the scrum next to him was Luke Quigley - add 15cm and 8kg to him and he plays for australia.
The guy packing into the scrum behind him was Blake Mueller - add 15 cm and 8kg to him and he plays for australia.
The guy feeding the scrum was Chris Tyrie - add 15cm and 8kg to him and he pushes joey out of firstgrade.

Do you even watch juniors. We have a dozen kids with the same story every year. They would all be fantastic on steroids.
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I have a feeling I know more about junior footy than you do looking at your posts. I don't care how big Quigley or Mueller are or any other examples of ex-fringe FG players you want to refer to, because the fact of the matter is, steroids can't give you talent, they just make you more physically gifted. Quigley at 15 cm's taller and 8 kg's heavier is not going to make him more talented than say Buderus or Smith. Period. Tyrie was not going to be more skillful than Johns if he was 15 cm's taller and 8 kg's heavier. Period. You need to have talent. It's no good if you look like Tarzen and play like Jane.

I'm sure the steroids are why Trent made a couple of FG appearances, but the fact of the matter is is that you never know what could've happened if he never took those steroids. As I've been saying, he obviously had some talent in the first place considering the Knights signed him. They didn't sign him because of his height and weight, because he didn't have that when they signed him, all he had was talent and potential in the Knights eyes.
 
TippleNickler said:
I have a feeling I know more about junior footy than you do looking at your posts. I don't care how big Quigley or Mueller are or any other examples of ex-fringe FG players you want to refer to, because the fact of the matter is, steroids can't give you talent, they just make you more physically gifted. Quigley at 15 cm's taller and 8 kg's heavier is not going to make him more talented than say Buderus or Smith. Period. Tyrie was not going to be more skillful than Johns if he was 15 cm's taller and 8 kg's heavier. Period. You need to have talent. It's no good if you look like Tarzen and play like Jane.

I'm sure the steroids are why Trent made a couple of FG appearances, but the fact of the matter is is that you never know what could've happened if he never took those steroids. As I've been saying, he obviously had some talent in the first place considering the Knights signed him. They didn't sign him because of his height and weight, because he didn't have that when they digned him, all he had was talent and potential in the Knights eyes.
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You win cough*****wit*cough
 
aww thats so sad knowing how terrible some parents can be.
you just feel so lucky when you hear about stories like this that you dont have people like his dad in your life.
i feel sorry for him (trent)
 
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