Jackson Hastings

I'm glad we got Hastings instead of Brooks, but some of the frothing on here is a bit premature. I remember some of the same comments on here when we signed Clifford, we all know how that went.
Clifford played out of his skin first couple of games at the start of the season.

Whatever his reasoning he just fell off, I think Hastings has been through the grinder and will just be able to handle It better whatever comes his way.
 
I'm glad we got Hastings instead of Brooks, but some of the frothing on here is a bit premature. I remember some of the same comments on here when we signed Clifford, we all know how that went.
I’ve seen people getting excited which is a good thing, but I haven’t seen anyone go way over the top? Nobody is saying we’re premiership contenders now from what I’ve seen, so I’m not too sure what you and slots are talking about.

For me it moves us from a 15-17 team to a 10-14 team, with the possibility of sneaking into the eight. It’s not a gift from god, but it’s got me looking forward to the season a lot more than I was.
 
I'm glad we got Hastings instead of Brooks, but some of the frothing on here is a bit premature. I remember some of the same comments on here when we signed Clifford, we all know how that went.

It’s kind of the opposite situation here. With Clifford I’ll put my hand up as one who got over-excited, but I’m far from alone in thinking he’d be a gun - massively hyped junior who has every physical tool you’d want in a halfback or five-eighth (except for his pretty bad passing for a first grade half, which I guess I just assumed would get better rather than worse). It was excitement over what we thought the kid may be one day. And to be fair he went really well in his first half season for us and looked like he could be a good foil for Pearce, who from what we had heard would be sticking around for a few more years, and take over when he’s ready.

Hastings isn’t a guy where you salivate over his potential. He’s not likely to become pacy and elusive, suddenly add distance to his clearing kicks, become as precise and accurate as Nathan Cleary, etc. He’s a high floor, low ceiling signing, his main areas where he’s likely to keep getting better are incremental stuff around his understanding of his role, manipulating defences, organising, decision-making around which triggers he pulls and when, etc - all categories in which he’s already miles ahead of any other spine player we have.

Pretty sure the broad consensus was - he’s a no-brainer signing for us, he should help our attacking weapons play better (particularly KP, and that goes double now he’s gonna play 6), and he’s a way more obvious fit for what we need than Luke Brooks.

If there’s jubilation, a lot of it might be over that last point in particular - he’s not Brooks lol.
 
It’s kind of the opposite situation here. With Clifford I’ll put my hand up as one who got over-excited, but I’m far from alone in thinking he’d be a gun - massively hyped junior who has every physical tool you’d want in a halfback or five-eighth (except for his pretty bad passing for a first grade half, which I guess I just assumed would get better rather than worse). It was excitement over what we thought the kid may be one day. And to be fair he went really well in his first half season for us and looked like he could be a good foil for Pearce, who from what we had heard would be sticking around for a few more years, and take over when he’s ready.

Hastings isn’t a guy where you salivate over his potential. He’s not likely to become pacy and elusive, suddenly add distance to his clearing kicks, become as precise and accurate as Nathan Cleary, etc. He’s a high floor, low ceiling signing, his main areas where he’s likely to keep getting better are incremental stuff around his understanding of his role, manipulating defences, organising, decision-making around which triggers he pulls and when, etc - all categories in which he’s already miles ahead of any other spine player we have.

Pretty sure the broad consensus was - he’s a no-brainer signing for us, he should help our attacking weapons play better (particularly KP, and that goes double now he’s gonna play 6), and he’s a way more obvious fit for what we need than Luke Brooks.

If there’s jubilation, a lot of it might be over that last point in particular - he’s not Brooks lol.

We will never hear about Clifford again
 
To put in perspective where our roster is at - here’s the likely best 17 for 2023 of the team which finished 9th last year:

1. Reece Walsh
2. Corey Oates
3. Herbie Farnworth
4. Kotoni Staggs
5. Selwyn Cobbo
6. Ezra Mam
7. Adam Reynolds

13. Patrick Carrigan
12. Jordan Riki/TC Robati
11. Kurt Capewell
10. Payne Haas
9. Billy Walters
8. Thomas Flegler

14. Cory Paix
15. Kobe Hetherington
16. Keenan Palasia
17. Corey Jensen

Not a perfect roster - issue at hooker obviously (though Paix is pretty good in my opinion), not a huge fan of their edge forward options but they at least have a lot to choose from… but aside from that you’ve got an excellent 7, 6 and 1, one of the best 2-5’s in the comp, great starting middles with a strong bench rotation and depth beyond the starting 17… and they came 9th!

Hastings fills the biggest and most glaring issue in our roster but we still have more areas of need than the side which just finished 9th - we need our Reece Walsh at 1, big improvement in forward depth, some of our young outside backs besides Dom need to turn into studs, the Saifitis to return to 2020-21 form…

We have talent coming in in our English recruits and some talented looking juniors eg Mapapalangi, but we need more hits than busts on those kids. Which isn’t a thing you can be sure of at all.

I am very, very confident Kai Pearce-Paul is going to be great for us. Krystian Mapapalangi is going to be good player. I’m not confident about literally anyone else lol.
 
I'm not sold on Hastings not being elusive. People forget he has had a string of games at full back (early in his career). I think he isn't the fastest half, but he has a smart running game. He doesn't need to be a runner with ponga at 5/8. But if he picks his moments I think he can be very dangerous with ball in hand. Additionally he made 135 meters this year. If he dials it back and picks his opportunities I can see him make a few line breaks
 
To put in perspective where our roster is at - here’s the likely best 17 for 2023 of the team which finished 9th last year:

1. Reece Walsh
2. Corey Oates
3. Herbie Farnworth
4. Kotoni Staggs
5. Selwyn Cobbo
6. Ezra Mam
7. Adam Reynolds

13. Patrick Carrigan
12. Jordan Riki/TC Robati
11. Kurt Capewell
10. Payne Haas
9. Billy Walters
8. Thomas Flegler

14. Cory Paix
15. Kobe Hetherington
16. Keenan Palasia
17. Corey Jensen

Not a perfect roster - issue at hooker obviously (though Paix is pretty good in my opinion), not a huge fan of their edge forward options but they at least have a lot to choose from… but aside from that you’ve got an excellent 7, 6 and 1, one of the best 2-5’s in the comp, great starting middles with a strong bench rotation and depth beyond the starting 17… and they came 9th!

Hastings fills the biggest and most glaring issue in our roster but we still have more areas of need than the side which just finished 9th - we need our Reece Walsh at 1, big improvement in forward depth, some of our young outside backs besides Dom need to turn into studs, the Saifitis to return to 2020-21 form…

We have talent coming in in our English recruits and some talented looking juniors eg Mapapalangi, but we need more hits than busts on those kids. Which isn’t a thing you can be sure of at all.

I am very, very confident Kai Pearce-Paul is going to be great for us. Krystian Mapapalangi is going to be good player. I’m not confident about literally anyone else lol.
I’d put Oryn Keeley, Max Bradbury in that confident category. Lots of Flegg players need to back it up this year like last year. Between that, more depth talent need to be bought whilst they develop.

As said earlier, I think there in the right track this year, just needs to all gell together.
 
I'm not sold on Hastings not being elusive. People forget he has had a string of games at full back (early in his career). I think he isn't the fastest half, but he has a smart running game. He doesn't need to be a runner with ponga at 5/8. But if he picks his moments I think he can be very dangerous with ball in hand. Additionally he made 135 meters this year. If he dials it back and picks his opportunities I can see him make a few line breaks

You’re not wrong actually, he has an okay change of direction. He’s just not *quick*. His nickname is Snail for a reason lol.

I think he compensates in the weight room and that’s how he makes all that yardage, he can bump out of a tackle okay and he fights hard for the ground. I think he’ll make fewer metres with us and that’s a good thing, part of why he ran so much for Wests is his forwards dogging it, no willing runners lining up so he had to go himself. But yeah 3 tries in 63 NRL games tells you a bit about his running threat lol.

He might cross the stripe a few times with us as we should get him on the front foot a bit more than Wests did (if we can stay fit), but it’s definitely not his strength. He’s playing with a guy who should be the biggest run threat from 6 in the NRL though so it balances out I would say.
 
NBN did a bit about Hastings joining the Knights at training and showed a bit of footage.
The weird thing is they sent someone out there to take some footage and what they showed was Kobe Rugless running between Miles Martin and Daniel Saifiti.
I can't decide if it was just a bit of random training footage, or if someone decided the small sandy haired guy they didn't recognise was probably Hastings - job done.
 
A lot of chat about Mitch Moses meeting with Tigers officials & also that they’ve re-signed Luke Brooks - who’s still one of Mitch’s best mates.

This is the basic explanation for why they were happy to lose Hastings. They’ve put everything in the Moses basket and everyone else is expendable if they don’t contribute to that goal. Hastings leaving now, Brooks taking a pay cut and letting Doueihi walk gives them the cap space to make an offer he can’t refuse, while still being able to afford Bateman. Obviously I’d pick Mitch over Jackson too, but we don’t have a shot, Sydney boy through and through, especially if Wests can clear the space to give him the biggest annual salary in the history of the game.

Good odds that Doueihi ends up with the Bulldogs to form the world’s tallest halves combination with Burton.
 
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