What to do with Sione?

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  1. Chief Longhorn

    Chief Longhorn Peter Johnston

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    LOL!
     
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    member 2299 Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    Billy Billy get a grip on this Brown bias!
     
  3. Hughburt6

    Hughburt6 Graeme Foster

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    I like brown but I can defiantly see he has his favourites. The fact he plays Barnett and buhrer with out really dropping them while they don’t perform but drops other players he didn’t sign, quickly after a poor performance is pretty obvious.
     
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    Beaumont Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    I've been on and off the Brown bandwagon a hundred times. Apart from our ordinary defence my main gripe has been to me it's obvious he has favourites.
     
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    member 2299 Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    Guys all coaches have favourites. Some players carry out a coach's directions and others, being knuckleheads, continue with the same old stuff.
     
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    Jaybro Shane Mackley

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    This

    There are reasons coaches have favourites which we probably can't see from the grandstand.
     
  7. Jaybro

    Jaybro Shane Mackley

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    He's dropped Burher this season for multiple games

    Also we don't really have anyone else to come in to drop these guys.

    I can't think of many players who would still be on deals that Brown didn't broker?? Just Sione & Pat
     
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    Frank McWilliams Todd Bates

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    Don't think Buhrer has actually been picked in first 13 this season, usually 14-17 or 18th man/injured, hasn't played reserves so does that qualify as never dropped.
     
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    88Knight4life Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    Being dropped out of the 17 would suggest being dropped.... yes?
     
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    Beaumont Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    Back row/utility next year for Sione according to Coach Brown.
     
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    krustykraz Steve Linnane

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    Also sporting news says a 2 year contract has been signed
     
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    88Knight4life Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    If he could provide the impact off the bench that helps the team we will be happy.

    Imo Yates provides great impact off the bench so Sione would need to be a upgrade on him or its a wasted spot in the 17 and our roster.
     
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    Beaumont Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    The problem for me with Yates is he offers zero with the ball(imo).
     
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    88Knight4life Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    Well your kinda correct although he isnt used for that type of role, he comes on at lock and does a few runs with quick leg speed and quick play the balls with some sting in D.

    We both know Sione taking hitups as a forward equals to stopped dead and usually man handled after contact.

    Not disrespecting Sione here, i just hope he provides more than what we already have now in that role.
     
  15. Billy

    Billy Danny 'Bedsy' Buderus

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    Yates was making 200 metres in some games in NYC - similar metres to players like Tapine, Korbin and the Saifiti brothers in their prime.
    Even when he went up to reserve grade he made decent metres.
    He seems to have become a tackling machine since going up to firstgrade - maybe it's because he's small - maybe it's because he's told to tackle and let others do the running. Hard to know.
     
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    danknights Sean Rudder

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    Yates is a nugget. Hard to tackle if their really having a go in attack. I've only seen straight running so far in first grade from him. Easy to see the defensive workhorse role his playing.
     
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    It's a lot to do with the job you are sent out to do and how confident you are to make alternative decisions based on your ability, like a mistake to a fringe player, Yates, to a first grade regular, Guerra, whole different scenario, allowances have to be made
     
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    Yates is a good defender but imo that's it , gets man handled in attack I would much rather a good attacking and defending lock . If that means yates stays in reserves so be it , you don't win games with players that are just good defenders you need to score points . Pity yates isn't 6' 4" and 110 kg he would be great ...
     
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    Unlike Buhrer who has some versatility Yates is a hard running tackler who is limited, he needed to develop other skill to his game during off season but sadly for both, great club men, there future looks limited to reserves unfortunately heart and effort don't always make up for size and ability.
     
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    danknights Sean Rudder

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    Heart and effort wins you more games then size and skill. If half the guys with size and skill had a go we would be much better off. Newcastle is born and bred on toughness and effort. Look at all the past players. What we lacked in size and skill we more then made up for in heart and effort. We won 2 premiership under this banner.
     

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